First Black President Republican or Dem? (1 Viewer)

[FreeThinker]

I'm of the opinion that the first minority (or female) president has to be from the conservative side.

My reasoning is that the same people who would vote for a candidate simply because they are black or a woman are the same people that already vote democrat.

A black republican would pull the conservative vote as well as all the minority voters from the democrat side (imo).

 

[rathi]

Possibly, but the chances of a black guy winning the republican primary is pretty low.

 

[RightinNYC]

Possibly, but the chances of a black guy winning the republican primary is pretty low.

The chances of a black guy winning the democrat primary is pretty low too.

 

[Kandahar]

I'm of the opinion that the first minority (or female) president has to be from the conservative side.

My reasoning is that the same people who would vote for a candidate simply because they are black or a woman are the same people that already vote democrat.

A black republican would pull the conservative vote as well as all the minority voters from the democrat side (imo).

I don't think there ARE many people who would vote for a candidate solely because he/she was black. There are far MORE people who would NOT vote for a candidate solely because he/she was black...and I hate to say it, but those people tend to be southern, white, evangelical Christians, and vote Republican.

The first black president will almost certainly be a Democrat. The first female president could be either, but the Democrats probably hold the edge in that category for the sole reason that the presumptive nominee is a woman.

 

[Hatuey]

A black republican would pull the conservative vote as well as all the minority voters from the democrat side (imo).

It's a known fact that blacks dont like republicans so wake up from your dream. Please? Black Republicans are rare. Black republicans white republicans are willing to vote for are non-existant.

 

[FreeThinker]

It's a known fact that blacks dont like republicans so wake up from your dream. Please? Black Republicans are rare. Black republicans white republicans are willing to vote for are non-existant.

A state or local black man was never elected under the republican ticket?

I'm not going to even bother googling it. You're retarded.

 

[Hatuey]

A state or local black man was never elected under the republican ticket?

I'm not going to even bother googling it. You're retarded.

Presidential ticket? No it's not happened. So it seems like the retard here is you. . Why would I be talking about any ticket. We are talking about presidential tickets aren't we?

List of United States Republican Party presidential tickets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[FreeThinker]

Black Republicans are rare. Black republicans white republicans are willing to vote for are non-existant.

This is where you say that white republicans won't vote for any black republicans.

Presidential tickets? No it's not happened. So it seems like the retard here is you.

This is the part where you pretend you were only talking about the presidential ticket.

Learn to edit your posts. It makes you look less down syndrome.

 

[Hatuey]

This is where you say that white republicans won't vote for any black republicans.



This is the part where you pretend you were only talking about the presidential ticket.

Learn to edit your posts. It makes you look less down syndrome.

Wow....lol....Why the...****...would I be talking about anything other then the presidential ticket....the title obviously states : "First black PRESIDENT Republican or Democrat". Do you understand the titles of your own polls....or.....do you simply copy and paste them from another forum?

 

[FreeThinker]

I think you should calm down sir. Be more specific and you won't get caught in ridiculous generalizations.

 

[Hatuey]

I think you should calm down sir. Be more specific and you won't get caught in ridiculous generalizations.

Wow....:doh ....Yes...I was making a generalization....the poll was obviously talking about wether or not the next black president would be a democrat or a republican....but I was talking about every single candidate to ever run under a republican ticket....FreeThinker...I think you shoulda just kept your name at Free...you shouldnt have bothered with the Thinker part.

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How does any of this change the fact that white republicans are very unlikely to vote for a black republican who decides to run for president?

 

[FreeThinker]

Yes...I was making a generalization....

Good you can admit that. Billo would have tried to change the subject.

 

[Hatuey]

Good you can admit that. Billo would have tried to change the subject.

Hmmm....alright for your pleasure..."Free"....

How does any of this change the fact that white republicans are very unlikely to vote for a black republican who decides to run for president before pigs learn to fly? With the democratic ticket...it might happen with Obama if he manages to keep his face out of any scandals....but with the republican ticket? Maybe in the next 20 years with alot of help....but thats a very big maybe...

 

[FreeThinker]

Cool opinion. Any more words of wisdom?

 

[RightinNYC]

Hmmm....alright for your pleasure..."Free"....

How does any of this change the fact that white republicans are very unlikely to vote for a black republican who decides to run for president before pigs learn to fly?

I seem to remember a certain political party trying really hard to recruit a certain black general to run for president a few years ago...

Seems to me that they wouldn't have bothered if they had agreed with your assessment that whites would be "very unlikely" to vote for him.

 

[Hatuey]

I seem to remember a certain political party trying really hard to recruit a certain black general to run for president a few years ago...

Seems to me that they wouldn't have bothered if they had agreed with your assessment that whites would be "very unlikely" to vote for him.

What the suits in Washington think and what the American public thinks are 2 very different things(As proven by the last 2 elections). It's foolish to believe America will have a black president within the next 10 years. America just isn't ready for it. As a man who's lived his entire life between "blacks" and "whites"(I'm mixed). I can very easily tell you it's not going to happen for a good time. You can kids yourself as much as you want to but it's just not going to happen. As for wether he'll be a democrat/republican all you have to do is look at groups each party targets and you'll have your awnser.

 

[Kandahar]

I seem to remember a certain political party trying really hard to recruit a certain black general to run for president a few years ago...

Seems to me that they wouldn't have bothered if they had agreed with your assessment that whites would be "very unlikely" to vote for him.

If nothing else it's a numbers game. There are a lot more black rising stars in the Democratic Party than the GOP (including the #2 frontrunner for the nomination), so chances are we'll have a black Democrat in the White House first.

 

[Skip]

It'll be a Democrat, for no reason other than because it'll be Obama.

 

[talloulou]

I'd say Republican. Look at Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice. It's obvious that a black person can achieve great heights as a Republican. When I try to think of powerful black democrats I come up with nothing that compares to Rice and Powell.

 

[Tashah]

It'll be a Democrat, for no reason other than because it'll be Obama.

I would agree at this time that barring any scandal or major missteps, Obama could very well be the first nominated African-American candidate for US President.

The Democratic primaries could be great entertainment with Clinton (female) and Obama (black) duking it out on center stage. Clinton has the huge war chest (no pun intended) but Obama has charisma and appeal. Could be a splendid show! :mrgreen:

 

[talloulou]

I would agree at this time that barring any scandal or major missteps, Obama could very well be the first nominated African-American candidate for US President.

The Democratic primaries could be great entertainment with Clinton (female) and Obama (black) duking it out on center stage. Clinton has the huge war chest (no pun intended) but Obama has charisma and appeal. Could be a splendid show! :mrgreen:

He might be the first nominated but I don't think he will and if he is it would be a mistake because I don't think he could possibly win due to the fact that he attended muslim schools abroad as a kid. On top of that I don't think he's qualified or experienced enough to be elected President. He has charisma and is great with crowds but so was Hitler. And I am not in anyway comparing Obama to Hitler, I'm just saying we shouldn't elect people on the basis of charisma.

 

[Skip]

He might be the first nominated but I don't think he will and if he is it would be a mistake because I don't think he could possibly win due to the fact that he attended muslim schools abroad as a kid. On top of that I don't think he's qualified or experienced enough to be elected President. He has charisma and is great with crowds but so was Hitler. And I am not in anyway comparing Obama to Hitler, I'm just saying we shouldn't elect people on the basis of charisma.

I don't think the Muslim schooling will hurt him. He's a pretty devout Christian, and I think he could really identify with Christians (who aren't the GOP base in the first place) with his conversion story. It might seem more real then your basic dem, know what I mean?

If Obama gets the nomination, it'll all depend on the GOP's choice - whether they go moderate or conservative. I think a GOP moderate would win, but a truely conservative Republican would not win after the eight years of Iraq follies voters will have seen with Bush.

 

[26 X World Champs]

I'd say Republican. Look at Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice. It's obvious that a black person can achieve great heights as a Republican. When I try to think of powerful black democrats I come up with nothing that compares to Rice and Powell.

Really? And could you please tell us all to what positions Powell and Rice have ever been elected to? OOOPS....the answer is NONE...

Why do Republicans always bring up Powell and Rice as electable when they've never even run for any office? Seems more than a stretch to me.

Of the two Powell would have a better chance though his bogus performance in front of the UN in 2003 would be a major creditability issue in an election.

Rice? She's been one of the weakest Secs. of State ever so her opponents would have a field day picking apart her "record." Also, as Laura Bush stated being a single woman would also generate negative polling...

Regardless neither have ever been elected to anything and both carry the scars of the Bush Administration on their resumes, as does Jeb....

 

[26 X World Champs]

He might be the first nominated but I don't think he will and if he is it would be a mistake because I don't think he could possibly win due to the fact that he attended muslim schools abroad as a kid.

I disagree. What you wrote is a conservative radio talking point that will have zero bearing on the race, zero.

The fact is that Republicans are far more anti-Black than Democrats are. Obama has a unique charisma that supersedes many things, especially where he attended grade school!

JFK had very little experience when elected and Obama is the first potential candidate since RFK who has the unique and special connection to people of all ilks. To under estimate that charm and clicking would be a gigantic mistake by the GOP.

 

[talloulou]

The fact is that Republicans are far more anti-Black than Democrats are.

Really? Then why have the democrats not appointed high ranking black officials such as Rice and Powell?

Obama has a unique charisma that supersedes many things, especially where he attended grade school!

Charisma is not a reason to elect someone. We are not batshite brained birds attracted to shiny objects. Obama does not have any experience or background that would suggest to an intelligent person that he is equipped to run the country.

JFK had very little experience when elected and Obama is the first potential candidate since RFK who has the unique and special connection to people of all ilks. To under estimate that charm and clicking would be a gigantic mistake by the GOP.

Charm, Charisma, are you kidding? I don't vote on those qualities.