• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Finnish political news thread

Not political. Just something to do with Finland. My granddaughter went with a group from her school to Rovaniemi, Finland for the Christmas break. She saw the Aurora Borealis for the first time. She wrote that she really loves it there. She said she ate at the McDonald's there that claims to be the most northern McDonald's in the world. I had to chuckle.
ElleRovaniemiFinlandXmas2024x350.jpg
ElleReindeerFinlandXmas2024x350.jpg
ElleRovaniemiFinlandXmasChristmasVillagex350x.jpg
 
SayMyName said:
Not political. Just something to do with Finland. My granddaughter went with a group from her school to Rovaniemi, Finland for the Christmas break. She saw the Aurora Borealis for the first time. She wrote that she really loves it there. She said she ate at the McDonald's there that claims to be the most northern McDonald's in the world. I had to chuckle.
View attachment 67484018
View attachment 67484019
View attachment 67484020
Click to expand...
if she likes winter ice water swimming, she can join me in Helsinki tomorrow
1703350968984.jpeg
(y)
 
joluoto said:
Because why not a thread about what's going on in Finland?

Wait, is anything going on in Finland? I thought the only thing remarkable about Finland was that Joulupukki (Santa Claus) is sober once a year?

Well right now PM Sanna Marin (SDP) is facing something of a crisis, at least according to the media.

Media reports PM Marin missed Covid exposure messages while out socialising​

This news has been something of a slow burn. During the weekend the PM was out bar-hopping on her free time Saturday evening. Nothing especially wrong there. But the issue is that earlier the Cabinet had had a meeting, and after the meeting Foreign Minister Pekka Haavisto (Green) was during routine Covid test tested positive. (The media is convinced Haavisto got the virus during the inauguration of the new Nokia Arena in Tampere, but who knows really). So the problem is PM Marin did not have her work phone with her, so she didn't get the messages that she might have Covid before the next day (she tested, she didn't have Covid). At least that's the story, and that's probably true. And it's bad in the sense that any Cabinet member is suppose to always have their phone with them, and she didn't. Politicians has fallen for sillier things, but it's as always a question of how embarrassing it gets and how much people actually care. Marin is double vaccinated and had her Covid pass. For a normal citizen that's enough. A normal citizen wouldn't have regular Covid tests either, like the one Haavisto had (and yes, Haavisto is of course double vaccinated), but of course Sanna Marin is the head of government and thus not a normal citizen.

Another story circulating in social media is that PM Marin knew about Haavisto's positive test already during the evening, and while that would be worse, it's also most likely not true. How the heck does random people on social media know that would be my first question. And THL (the Health and Welfare Center, roughly translated) has confirmed the message was sent to all Cabinet members' work phones during the evening. So the scenario of negligence because she didn't have the phone is the most likely one. The other thing of note is that her night out was reported by the Paparazzi magazine Seiska, that stalks all kind of celebrities trying to get compromising pictures.

So will this have political consequences? As of now, who knows. Her position doesn't feel shakey yet. Neither her party: the Social Democratic Party nor the coalition partners: the Center Party, the Greens, the Left Wing Alliance and the Swedish People's Party seem to bothered with it. If there is no internal issues with this in the government nothing will happen for now. This is not like when Antti Rinne had to go when after the Post Worker Strike the Center Party was so irritated by his pro- Union stance that they let everyone know they had nothing against continuing working for a Social Democrat led government as long as it was not led by Antti Rinne, which was actually how Sanna Marin became PM in the first place. Neither is this like when Center Leader and Finance Minister Katri Kulmuni had to go because she had used state finances to finance personal coaching, which led to her resigning as Finance Minister, because the Center Party was embarrassed by the situation, and later lose the Center Party leadership to current Finance Minister Annika Saarikko. The same Annika Saarikko said in an interview yesterday that Marin's mistake is "not political", meaning the Center Party isn't going to make a big deal out of it.

Minister on PM's night out, missed Covid exposure message: "It's not political"​


The opposition was quiet about the situation at first, and allowed the media make the spectacle. Why do anything when the media makes the work for you? Now today the True Finns said they think Marin should resign. The other opposition parties Kokoomus (National Coalition party) and KD (Christian Democrats) have not said much about it yet, basically just statements that they are disappointed, and that's all. They might say more, or they are happy with the True Finns beating the drum so they can look more reasonable. Time will tell.

My thought is that it was irresponsible by the PM, and embarassing, but in the end the media made it too a larger circus than it needed to be. For now she doesn't seem to suffer from it politically.
Click to expand...
 
Finland has more artillery than any other country in Western Europe and there are only a few border crossings through dense forested areas from Russia into Finland. What does that tell you?

Finland is more prepared now than in 1939. Russia would be well advised to think twice.
 
NJBob said:
Finland has more artillery than any other country in Western Europe and there are only a few border crossings through dense forested areas from Russia into Finland. What does that tell you?

Finland is more prepared now than in 1939. Russia would be well advised to think twice.
Click to expand...
they 🇷🇺 are in the middle of Jihadi - expansionist madness, they can´t think logically , there is the only one solution :

F-WpVZ5WUAAdF0k.jpg

 
NJBob said:
Finland has more artillery than any other country in Western Europe and there are only a few border crossings through dense forested areas from Russia into Finland. What does that tell you?

Finland is more prepared now than in 1939. Russia would be well advised to think twice.
Click to expand...
 

Russian speakers hold dual demonstrations in Helsinki​

Russian speakers in Helsinki held dual demonstrations. One was for reopening of the border, the other was an anti- Putin demonstration. There was probably some cross- polination, i.e. people participating in both.

39-123094165acf824eeef0

39-123100665ad17aebbc03
 
I guess our new President has been busy getting photographed. Here he is visiting the royals in the West.

39-127462966277bf6615ff
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom