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Final jobs report before Election Day shows US employers added 661,000 workers in September

You posted 'official' numbers from an internet search engine that utilizes simple basic numbers and stats. I'm posting you the findings of 2 research letters conducted by researchers at Harvard, University of Pennsylvania, Virginia Commonwealth University and Yale published in the JAMA Network Open, a monthly open access medical journal published by the American Medical Association covering all aspects of the biomedical sciences.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...ads-19-nations-covid-19-all-cause-death-rates
We aren't other countries, we have the freedom here to make choices good or bad suffer good or bad consequences. You want those freedoms taken away? Why don't you just move and make it easier for you?

The data I posted is official data so sorry it doesn't meet your narrative which is really to demonized and destroy Trump putting an empty suit back into the WH. You keep ignoring how Biden made his millions and keep ignoring what public servants actually do.

As is stands today this country has among the best death to infection rates in the world better than those utopian countries that have Universal Healthcare as it is the Medicare profession that has to deal with the infections and this country's results are stellar.
 
This is how career public servants become multi millionaires while on the public dole, selling influence and this is the SWAMP that you support

Gee how sad and pathetic it is that Trump and his criminal cohorts have grown so desperate as to latch on to a classic textbook Russian sponsored disinformation operation to attack the son of his political opponent. I think that Rudy and this computer repair shop Trumpster may find themselves in a bit of legal trouble for this sad episode when it's all said and done. And BTW Hunter Biden was not and is not a government official. He's not running for any office so nobody is going to be voting for him. When on the other hand the daughter of the President IS a high government official and the Chinese in 2018 did grant her 18 trademarks to companies linked to President Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka Trump of the 34 marks the Chinese government greenlighted that year.
 
We aren't other countries, we have the freedom here to make choices good or bad suffer good or bad consequences. You want those freedoms taken away? Why don't you just move and make it easier for you?

The data I posted is official data so sorry it doesn't meet your narrative which is really to demonized and destroy Trump putting an empty suit back into the WH. You keep ignoring how Biden made his millions and keep ignoring what public servants actually do.

As is stands today this country has among the best death to infection rates in the world better than those utopian countries that have Universal Healthcare as it is the Medicare profession that has to deal with the infections and this country's results are stellar.
Official data of whom? Bing? LOL? You're hilarious!
 
Gee how sad and pathetic it is that Trump and his criminal cohorts have grown so desperate as to latch on to a classic textbook Russian sponsored disinformation operation to attack the son of his political opponent. I think that Rudy and this computer repair shop Trumpster may find themselves in a bit of legal trouble for this sad episode when it's all said and done. And BTW Hunter Biden was not and is not a government official. He's not running for any office so nobody is going to be voting for him. When on the other hand the daughter of the President IS a high government official and the Chinese in 2018 did grant her 18 trademarks to companies linked to President Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka Trump of the 34 marks the Chinese government greenlighted that year.

What is sad and pathetic are people like you continuing to try to divert from the Biden corruption and the fact that Trump was impeached for something that Biden actually did. So sad that you cannot get over your Trump hatred, and have to lie, distort, and divert for our perverted ideology. What is it about liberalism that creates people like you? Hunter Biden wasn't a Gov't official but selling of influence to his dad is a violation of ethics and Biden's violation of his position in the gov't. Your stunning support for the liberal ideology doesn't do much for your credibility which is why you need Biden/harris as you won't make it in the private sector
 
The REAL picture.....


California, 11.4% unemployment, NY 12.4% unemployment, NJ 10.9% unemployment, the cost of the economic shutdown on full display. Keep showing us that you really didn't want the virus to stop spreading only the negative results so you could blame on Trump diverting from the reality that it is the governors that control the activities in their state and the American people cannot benefit from the Trump economic policies if they aren't allowed to go back to work
 
What is sad and pathetic are people like you continuing to try to divert from the Biden corruption and the fact that Trump was impeached for something that Biden actually did. So sad that you cannot get over your Trump hatred, and have to lie, distort, and divert for our perverted ideology. What is it about liberalism that creates people like you? Hunter Biden wasn't a Gov't official but selling of influence to his dad is a violation of ethics and Biden's violation of his position in the gov't. Your stunning support for the liberal ideology doesn't do much for your credibility which is why you need Biden/harris as you won't make it in the private sector
What Biden corruption. The Repubs just did an 'investigation' and they couldn't find any. Remember?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html
 
What Biden corruption. The Repubs just did an 'investigation' and they couldn't find any. Remember?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/biden-inquiry-republicans-johnson.html

LOL, right, Not exactly sure what is wrong with people like you but your partisanship is going to destroy you in the future. Biden is a multi millionaire career public servant, how did that happen without selling influence? You really are a waste of time, clueless regarding the issues, always participating in the politics of personal destruction, and probably living off of creating dependence for others just like the rest of the liberal elites. There is nothing slightly liberal about you, you are a radical liberal with no understanding of reality

Liberals are teflon when it comes to illegal activities
 
Go ahead and point out to me what in that link disproves those research letters in any way, shape or form? This ought to be fun. 🍿

Let's see if you have any understanding of math, what is 7.9 million cases divided by 330 million?? What is 216,000 as a percentage of those infections?? What is the recovery percentage? You appear to be as poorly educated in math as you are in civics. What is it about liberalism that creates people like you and such loyalty? What a way to make a living, supporting the fraud called liberalism
 
Let's see if you have any understanding of math, what is 7.9 million cases divided by 330 million?? What is 216,000 as a percentage of those infections?? What is the recovery percentage? You appear to be as poorly educated in math as you are in civics. What is it about liberalism that creates people like you and such loyalty? What a way to make a living, supporting the fraud called liberalism
What I'm talking about is in depth scientific medical and statistical analysis conducted by accredited institutions whereas you're positing simplistic general math absent of any sort of in depth statistical and scientific analysis as actual research. The kind of simplistic general math any grade school kid, or even you for that matter, could do.
 
LOL, right, Not exactly sure what is wrong with people like you but your partisanship is going to destroy you in the future. Biden is a multi millionaire career public servant, how did that happen without selling influence? You really are a waste of time, clueless regarding the issues, always participating in the politics of personal destruction, and probably living off of creating dependence for others just like the rest of the liberal elites. There is nothing slightly liberal about you, you are a radical liberal with no understanding of reality

Liberals are teflon when it comes to illegal activities
You're to going to be one very unhappy and angry soul then, even more so than you are now, once reality smacks you in the face come Nov. 3.
 
California, 11.4% unemployment, NY 12.4% unemployment, NJ 10.9% unemployment, the cost of the economic shutdown on full display. Keep showing us that you really didn't want the virus to stop spreading only the negative results so you could blame on Trump diverting from the reality that it is the governors that control the activities in their state and the American people cannot benefit from the Trump economic policies if they aren't allowed to go back to work

So what you're saying is Trump is only the president of states that have minimal unemployment?

Sorry bud. That propaganda just doesn't wash.
 
What I'm talking about is in depth scientific medical and statistical analysis conducted by accredited institutions whereas you're positing simplistic general math absent of any sort of in depth statistical and scientific analysis as actual research. The kind of simplistic general math any grade school kid, or even you for that matter, could do.
Right, you diversion from the reality that 98% of Americans don't have the virus and 2.7% death to infection rate is among the best in the world better than liberal utopian countries you want us to emulated. You cannot tell us why you are voting for Biden and what Trump has done that has hurt you, your family or the country. You want 100% certainly that you won't get the virus then wear a mask, practice social distancing but that isn't the case, you want the bad economic numbers created by economic shutdown to blame on the President.
 
You're to going to be one very unhappy and angry soul then, even more so than you are now, once reality smacks you in the face come Nov. 3.

No one could be more angry than you and other radicals like you who are so filled with hatred that you cannot even over a valid reason for that hatred. It is almost as if Trump personally has hurt you or is it because you are a member of the elite who are seeing your ideology destroyed. You have been building anger for the past 4 years and show that hatred sells. Haven't seen a valid reason to vote for Biden and won't, because your ideology trumps the reality of the results liberalism generated.

When is reality going to smack you in the face, liberalism is a fraud, creating dependence and multi millionaire public servants. Liberalism appeals to the heart by spending money in the name of compassion but never getting compassionate results. If you don't already live in California, you don't need to convert the country to Harris's utopia just move to SF and experience first hand liberalism, high cost of living, tent cities, feces on the streets, high crime, massive dependence. Sounds like exactly the country you want right in your own backyard
 
So what you're saying is Trump is only the president of states that have minimal unemployment?

Sorry bud. That propaganda just doesn't wash.

What I am saying is that the Trump economic policies are not benefiting the American people because governors are keeping their states locked down and that is what you really wanted, bad numbers to blame on the President. that makes you civics challenged as you ignore the results from economic policies and the results from the pandemic generated response by governors and mayors.
 
What I am saying is that the Trump economic policies are not benefiting the American people because governors are keeping their states locked down and that is what you really wanted, bad numbers to blame on the President. that makes you civics challenged as you ignore the results from economic policies and the results from the pandemic generated response by governors and mayors.

It's a mixed bag actually, with many having lifted most of their earlier restrictions. What you don't seem to factor in is people not going about their former patterns out of personal choice, or those imposed by private businesses.
 
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No one could be more angry than you and other radicals like you who are so filled with hatred that you cannot even over a valid reason for that hatred. It is almost as if Trump personally has hurt you or is it because you are a member of the elite who are seeing your ideology destroyed. You have been building anger for the past 4 years and show that hatred sells. Haven't seen a valid reason to vote for Biden and won't, because your ideology trumps the reality of the results liberalism generated.

When is reality going to smack you in the face, liberalism is a fraud, creating dependence and multi millionaire public servants. Liberalism appeals to the heart by spending money in the name of compassion but never getting compassionate results. If you don't already live in California, you don't need to convert the country to Harris's utopia just move to SF and experience first hand liberalism, high cost of living, tent cities, feces on the streets, high crime, massive dependence. Sounds like exactly the country you want right in your own backyard
I almost feel sorry for you. The term that comes to mind that best describes your style of rhetoric is 'Stalinist'.
 
I almost feel sorry for you. The term that comes to mind that best describes your style of rhetoric is 'Stalinist'.

Don't feel sorry for me, look in the mirror, tell me is this what you support

Abortion

Politics of personal destruction, class envy, jealousy of what others have

Green energy

Someone else paying for your healthcare and other personal responsibility issues

Defunding police

BLM a racist organization

U.S as the world's policemen

China stealing intellectual properties and manipulating currency

Allies not paying their fair share or financial obligations to NATO

The President having power of the states and local communities violating the 10th Amendment

Higher taxes and a more massive central gov't

Open borders

Sanctuary cities

Legalized drug use

Emptying our prisons

State and local taxes deducted fully from your federal return

Public sector vs private sector

Dependence, destruction of civil liberties
 
I almost feel sorry for you. The term that comes to mind that best describes your style of rhetoric is 'Stalinist'.

The reality you want to ignore, economic results due to economic policies and pandemic results due to the virus and implementation of those policies by governors. How does any American benefit from economic policies if they aren't allowed to go back to work?



(UnitedVoice.com) – The US economy was in a really good place before COVID-19 struck. Unemployment was at a 50-year low and the stock market was hitting record highs. The pandemic disrupted the gains President Donald Trump’s policies made — but now, the situation is turning around.

On Friday, October 16, the stock market opened strong. The Dow Jones Industrial Average was up 1% (it dropped a little bit later), and the S&P 500 was up 0.6% when trading began. An announcement by Pfizer saying it could file for emergency-use authorization for its COVID-19 vaccine as early as mid-November helped. The drugmaker has been part of President Trump’s coronavirus immunization initiative, Operation Warp Speed. Retail sales also started off better than expected.

President Trump’s economic policies are some of the strongest many Americans have seen in decades. Meanwhile, Joe Biden is talking about raising taxes on the country’s jobmakers. The election is less than three weeks away; who will America choose?
 
Obama results speak volumes and show nothing but your total ignorance, he lost the House in 10-12-14-16
Trump lost the houe in 18 and presidency and house in 20. Clear rejection of trumps failed economic policies using your logic right?
 
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