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Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Finds

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The six-month election recount that turned former "Saturday Night Live" comedian Al Franken into a U.S. senator may have been decided by convicted felons who voted illegally in Minnesota's Twin Cities.

That's the finding of an 18-month study conducted by Minnesota Majority, a conservative watchdog group, which found that at least 341 convicted felons in largely Democratic Minneapolis-St. Paul voted illegally in the 2008 Senate race between Franken, a Democrat, and his Republican opponent, then-incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman.

The final recount vote in the race, determined six months after Election Day, showed Franken beat Coleman by 312 votes -- fewer votes than the number of felons whose illegal ballots were counted, according to Minnesota Majority's newly released study, which matched publicly available conviction lists with voting records.

Furthermore, the report charges that efforts to get state and federal authorities to act on its findings have been "stonewalled."

"We aren't trying to change the result of the last election. That legally can't be done," said Dan McGrath, Minnesota Majority's executive director. "We are just trying to make sure the integrity of the next election isn't compromised."


FOXNews.com - Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Finds

Well, well, well.....Demo's cheating to gain a Senate seat? Parish the thought! :shock:

Now stonewalling to make sure that they can cheat in the future. Is anyone really surprised. Frankin is a joke! A mental midget! And a liar. Just like his boss Obama.

Gigi Gaston, a writer/director who has made a documentary outlining the rampant voter fraud perpetrated by the Obama campaign during the 2008 primaries against Hillary Clinton. Gaston is a lifelong Democrat whose grandfather was a Democratic governor of Massachusetts...

Gaston is not some partisan hack but someone who cares deeply about the election process and democracy. Gaston presents compelling evidence in We Will Not Be Silenced that Barack Obama was selected by the DNC, not elected by the people.

Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee. That didn't happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for "dinners," etc. There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign...


'We Will Not Be Silenced': Democrats Produce Documentary Alleging Rampant Vote Fraud by Obama Campaign vs. Hillary in 2008 Primaries
Thoughts?


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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

341 convicted felon votes, 312 being the difference in the election. To be the deciding factor, the felons would have had to break like 90% towards Franken. When was the last time any demographic broke that hard in a Senate race?
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

341 convicted felon votes, 312 being the difference in the election. To be the deciding factor, the felons would have had to break like 90% towards Franken. When was the last time any demographic broke that hard in a Senate race?



The felon demographic has always historically voted left.


as does the deceased. :ssst:
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

Felons would naturally vote conservative, anyway. ;)
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

341 convicted felon votes, 312 being the difference in the election. To be the deciding factor, the felons would have had to break like 90% towards Franken. When was the last time any demographic broke that hard in a Senate race?

:lamo You think that they voted for Coleman? Come on man! No one is that naive.


The finding was that Franken received at least 341 counted votes by felons. All of those ballots should have been cast out, because it was illegal for those felons to vote.

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

The finding was that Franken received at least 341 counted votes by felons. All of those ballots should have been cast out, because it was illegal for those felons to vote.
How do they know this? Voting is anonymous, yes?
 
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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

How do they know this? Voting is anonymous, yes?

I would imagine that it is public to see who voted initially, but not whom they voted for until you find that they were a felon, and ineligible to cast a vote, then you may be able to see who.


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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

341 convicted felon votes, 312 being the difference in the election. To be the deciding factor, the felons would have had to break like 90% towards Franken. When was the last time any demographic broke that hard in a Senate race?
Blacks?!?!?
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

Begs the question as to why felons can't vote in the first place.
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

341 convicted felon votes, 312 being the difference in the election. To be the deciding factor, the felons would have had to break like 90% towards Franken. When was the last time any demographic broke that hard in a Senate race?
So are you more concerned with this specific race or with the voting fraud that was perpetrated on the people of Minnesota? Convicted felons being able to vote is a problem - no matter who they vote for. Franken won because of voting fraud. If you think that the felons would actually vote for the conservative candidate, you simply aren't thinking.

Altouhg most conservatives would like to see Franken thrown out and replaced with the real winner of the election, this isn't going to happen. What I want to see is voter fraud prosecuted to the fullest extent - no matter who commits it. The integrity of an election must remain in tact and when things like this are allowed to happen, the people lose, not the candidates.
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

:lamo You think that they voted for Coleman? Come on man! No one is that naive.


The finding was that Franken received at least 341 counted votes by felons. All of those ballots should have been cast out, because it was illegal for those felons to vote.

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At least he made us laugh.

I can just see all the Cheney felon voters talkin it up in Cellblock D
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

Isn't this a bit of a giveaway....?

"That's the finding of an 18-month study conducted by Minnesota Majority, a conservative watchdog group"

What do the electoral authorities say? A conservative watchdog group would say that, wouldn't they?
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

The felon demographic has always historically voted left.


as does the deceased. :ssst:
Soon to be joined by the illegals.

What a voting bloc liberal have.
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

I wonder how this is playing in Minnesota? You know CNN or MSNBC wouldn't mention in a thousand years.
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

Soon to be joined by the illegals.

What a voting bloc liberal have.
Of course, you can prove that felons and illegal immigrants vote more than 90% Democrat, can't you?
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

:lamo You think that they voted for Coleman? Come on man! No one is that naive.


The finding was that Franken received at least 341 counted votes by felons. All of those ballots should have been cast out, because it was illegal for those felons to vote.

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Straight up a lie. 341 felons cast votes. Are you really suggesting that 100% of the felons voted Democrat?

I would imagine that it is public to see who voted initially, but not whom they voted for until you find that they were a felon, and ineligible to cast a vote, then you may be able to see who.


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You imagine wrong.

Blacks?!?!?
Post evidence of this. A Senate race with a 90% margin in any demographic. (except party affiliation. no using "well 90% of Democrats voted Democrat!")

So are you more concerned with this specific race or with the voting fraud that was perpetrated on the people of Minnesota? Convicted felons being able to vote is a problem - no matter who they vote for. Franken won because of voting fraud. If you think that the felons would actually vote for the conservative candidate, you simply aren't thinking.

Altouhg most conservatives would like to see Franken thrown out and replaced with the real winner of the election, this isn't going to happen. What I want to see is voter fraud prosecuted to the fullest extent - no matter who commits it. The integrity of an election must remain in tact and when things like this are allowed to happen, the people lose, not the candidates.
Why couldn't a felon vote conservative? Do you have any evidence at all to support this? 90% is a MASSIVE margin for any demographic. In the entire state of Minnesota, this election came down to 312 votes, it was that evenly split. Yet you suggest that 91.7% of felons are Democrats. You seem to think that only liberals commit crimes, that's utterly absurd. YOU are the one who isn't thinking. Fraudulent votes did not swing this election, it's just conservatives being sore losers. Coleman was just so bad a senator that even a comedian was able to bring him down. Obviously, any voter fraud should be prosecuted, nobody has suggested otherwise, that's just more conservative bull****.

Edit: Or maybe you're under the impression that being arrested for committing a crime magically converts even a staunch conservative into a liberal?

Soon to be joined by the illegals.

What a voting bloc liberal have.
Yes, and we're going to institute full-blown communism and enslave white people. You, specifically, Erod. We're coming for yooooouuuuuuu. *scary ghost noise*
 
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It says a lot about the conservative mind when it doesn't occur to them that conservatives also commit crimes.
 
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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

It says a lot about the conservative mind when it doesn't occur to them that conservatives also commit crimes.



I think it says more about you casting a wide net of bigotry here. :shrug:
 

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I think it says more about you casting a wide net of bigotry here. :shrug:
You guys are the ones suggesting that 92% of felons are liberals. :shrug:

While the sample size is small, not one conservative in this thread has said otherwise.
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

Altouhg most conservatives would like to see Franken thrown out and replaced with the real winner of the election, this isn't going to happen. What I want to see is voter fraud prosecuted to the fullest extent - no matter who commits it. The integrity of an election must remain in tact and when things like this are allowed to happen, the people lose, not the candidates.
Amen! If Franken and the Dems are behind it all, prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law!

However, you should probably consider removing your post. Given the raging partisanship of this thread thus far, your common sense and penchant for intelligent discourse has no place here, methinks.
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

I would like to see proof that these people vote for Franken before casting judgment. I know what the stereotype is, but a stereotype is not enough to convince me.
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

I have????
See edit: Not one conservative has said otherwise so far. Sorry if I incorrectly grouped you with the lunatics.
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

See edit: Not one conservative has said otherwise so far. Sorry if I incorrectly grouped you with the lunatics.


I see your edit. You want me to state that conservatives also commit cimes?


Well duh...... :roll:


:lamo
 

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Re: Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Fin

Amen! If Franken and the Dems are behind it all, prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law!

However, you should probably consider removing your post. Given the raging partisanship of this thread thus far, your common sense and penchant for intelligent discourse has no place here, methinks.



It's your wit that makes you so adorable....
 
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