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Federals appeals court: California ban on sales of semiautomatic weapons to persons under 21 unconstitutional

Chase Morgan said:
Future school shooters and other future teenage mass-killers must be partying in my beautiful California tonight.

I suggest an appointment with a local psychiatrist asap, nelson.

You got some serious mental issues, dude...

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Countries That Have Banned Assault-Style Firearms

Countries That Have Banned Assault-Style Firearms. New Zealand, Canada, and Australia have banned assault-style firearms to stop mass shootings.
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why don't you move to one of those countries that don't trust the citizens to have the same weapons that the cops have?
 
Filthy old republicans ---> We have a problem with 30-year-old women controlling their bodies.

Also filthy old republicans ---> We have no problem with teenagers controlling mass-killing machines.


Resist the urge to put your fist thru the nearest wall and get off your asses and VOTE (HARD) against filthy old republicans in November... (y)🇺🇸
 
Chase Morgan said:
Filthy old republicans ---> We have a problem with 30-year-old women controlling their bodies.

Also filthy old republicans ---> We have no problem with teenagers controlling mass-killing machines.


Resist the urge to put your fist thru the nearest wall and get off your asses and VOTE (HARD) against filthy old republicans in November... (y)🇺🇸
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trolling nonsense. Calling semi auto rifles "mass killing machines" is hysterical bullshit
 
Chase Morgan said:
Also filthy old republicans ---> We have no problem with teenagers controlling mass-killing machines.
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Let's see what happens when we look at the issue using actual facts:

According to the FBI's 2019 crime statistics, there were 364 murders committed in the US that year using rifles. That's ALL rifles of all kinds. They don't keep statistics for "assault rifles", but given the hundreds of millions of conventional rifles out there, it's unlikely that it's more than half. Let's call it 200 to be generous. Just to put it into perspective, there were 600 murders committed using fists. So the odds of being killed by someone punching you are three times as high as being killed with an "assault rifle".

Yet attacking "assault rifles" is a cornerstone of Democratic gun policy. "Hell, yes, we're going to take your AR-15!". Why are they making such a big deal about them if they are so rarely used in murders?

First and foremost is to generate an atmosphere of fear from which you can only be saved if you vote Democratic. You seem to have bought into it heavily.

The second reason is that the Supreme Court has declared that weapons "commonly used for lawful purposes" are protected by the Second Amendment. So-called "assault weapons" are commonly used for lawful purposes. They are also used in a very small percentage of crimes. So why are the Democrats so determined to ban them? Because they want to establish some way around the common use protection. Once they've done that, more and more guns will be classified as "assault weapons". First all semiautos. Then bolt action "sniper rifles". Etc, etc. This is entirely consistent with a long established strategy of incrementalism as manifested in Democratic anti-gun states like California.
 
zsu2357 said:
All so very true. Did you get the impression he doesn't like "filthy old republicans"?
. Did you get the impression he doesn't like "filthy old republicans"?
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I always love younger posters who think insulting older people is effective. Either he gets to my age or he croaks before he does. Either way it's going to come back and bite him
 
So, some 18-year-old cowardly piece of human garbage just blew away 10, including an armed security guard, with a mass-killing machine in a Buffalo supermarket this afternoon.

Can we get a comment from this ROTTEN phuck-face judge nelson (or any of the mentally-flawed gun-cravers on here) who apparently wants to make it as easy as possible for teenagers to acquire mass-killing machines?
 
Chase Morgan said:
So, some 18-year-old cowardly piece of human garbage just blew away 10, including an armed security guard, with a mass-killing machine in a Buffalo supermarket this afternoon.

Can we get a comment from this ROTTEN phuck-face judge nelson (or any of the mentally-flawed gun-cravers on here) who apparently wants to make it as easy as possible for teenagers to acquire mass-killing machines?
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In BUFFALO-that's NEW YORK STATE. those "mass killing machines" are illegal in NY. so is shooting people. . What laws do you want to prevent this given a life sentence apparently did not. Oh lets cut the bullshit. You don't care about the deaths, you just want to troll gun advocates and pretend they are responsible for the actions of a mass murderer
 
"If the ‘good reason’ for firearm possession is target shooting, the owner must belong to a police-approved rifle or pistol club."

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In many countries it's not enough to be able to drive to the countryside in order to get a permit for a long gun. You also need to provide written consent from a landowner to shoot on their land if you don't have a farm yourself. It's quite unlikely that most city-dwellers in America would have access to private farm land for purchasing their AR-15s.

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(3:15 onwards) "For more than two centuries we had a vast division between the way we regulated guns with restrictions being more strict in cities than in rural areas. If you go back to the Old West and look at the famous gun towns like Dodge City and Tombstone, Arizona; it was illegal to carry guns in those places even though you could carry it in the ranges in-between. You see the same thing in Boston and New York and Philadelphia; these original, colonial major cities. That is a long-standing American tradition. I did not expect it to be such a theme in oral arguments but it was. It wasn't something pushed just by the liberal justices like Justice Kagan who pushed the point but also Justice Thomas... As he said there are different gun traditions and cost and benefits when it comes to gun use in rural upstate New York than there is in Manhattan. In North Carolina it's not uncommon to see a person in camo with a rifle in deer season. It's a different message if you see them walking in Times Square or on the Capitol Grounds... This right might look different in its particulars in densely populated urban areas compared to rural areas."

CBS News - The Supreme Court is expected to issue a decision soon on its first major Second Amendment case in years, on a New York law that restricts carrying a concealed weapon outside the home.
 
A rural/metropolitan split in gun legislation would partially reflect state politics in terms of New York and Los Angeles versus the agrarian and Republican interior. Having gun control in these two megacities would increase national safety even if it were to exclude other urban regions.

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Let's not forget that the second amendment was written in the context of war that was predominantly fought in the countryside:

"Cities were small but powerful places during the American Revolution. Less than four percent of the 2.5 million people in mainland British North America lived in a city in 1776. Most of those cities were small. Only four had populations above 10,000 people, including Boston, New York, Philadelphia, and Charleston."
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jamesrage said:
Hopefully the supreme court agrees.An adult under 21 years of age should not have their 2nd amendment rights restricted.
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This latest 18-year-old dead animal ramos would no doubt have thanked you (and your sick f***in' ilk) for your support of that, jimmy.

The animal/terrorist was able to legally purchase two mass-killing machines and hundreds of rounds of ammo with apparently no problems in filthy, blood-red texas.

So keep trying to wash that blood off YOUR hands, pal...


California ---> A sane state trying to do what it can to reduce gun violence

Texas ---> A f***in' INSANE red state that has no problem with TEENS owning mass-killing machines...
 
Chase Morgan said:
This latest 18-year-old dead animal ramos would no doubt have thanked you (and your sick f***in' ilk) for your support of that, jimmy.

The animal/terrorist was able to legally purchase two mass-killing machines and hundreds of rounds of ammo with apparently no problems in filthy, blood-red texas.

So keep trying to wash that blood off YOUR hands, pal...


California ---> A sane state trying to do what it can to reduce gun violence

Texas ---> A f***in' INSANE red state that has no problem with TEENS owning mass-killing machines...
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more mindless trolling. blaming him for the deaths is pathetic and beyond any realm of decency. so stop your moronic blood clot lies and calling semi auto rifles "mass killing machines" shows how intellectually bankrupt your dishonest rants are. The killer was in a room with those kids for almost 45 minutes. He could have killed them all with a golf club, an ax, a sword, a pair of nunchucks or a 6 shot revolver-even without it being loaded
 
Chase Morgan said:
This latest 18-year-old dead animal ramos would no doubt have thanked you (and your sick f***in' ilk) for your support of that, jimmy.

The animal/terrorist was able to legally purchase two mass-killing machines and hundreds of rounds of ammo with apparently no problems in filthy, blood-red texas.

So keep trying to wash that blood off YOUR hands, pal...


California ---> A sane state trying to do what it can to reduce gun violence

Texas ---> A f***in' INSANE red state that has no problem with TEENS owning mass-killing machines...
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A handful of people commiting mass murder does not justify infringing on the rights of legal adults.
 
TurtleDude said:
more mindless trolling. blaming him for the deaths is pathetic and beyond any realm of decency. so stop your moronic blood clot lies and calling semi auto rifles "mass killing machines" shows how intellectually bankrupt your dishonest rants are. The killer was in a room with those kids for almost 45 minutes. He could have killed them all with a golf club, an ax, a sword, a pair of nunchucks or a 6 shot revolver-even without it being loaded
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Well, if nothing else, you're always good for a belly laugh.

Get back to me when we start seeing a spat of mass-killings in schools from terrorists using "golf clubs" or "nunchucks"...

LMAO
 
GREAT to see Gav calling out these two filthy, hard-right, f***-face 'judges'... (y)

... “The only thing that can stop (California’s gun control laws) by the way are these extremist judges, which is an issue. You can ask Judge (Roger) Benitez about how he’s feeling about these last 10 days. Ask Judge (Ryan) Nelson how he’s feeling. Specifically Judge Nelson. ...

“I wonder how he’s feeling right now, what happened in Buffalo and what happened in Texas. Ripped from the pages of the Federalist Society, one of the 331 federal appellate court judges that Donald Trump gave this country. I wonder what Judge Nelson’s feeling. I wonder how proud he is of that opinion he wrote,” Newsom said. ...

“Judge Benitez, who said about our assault weapons ban that an assault weapon is nothing more than a Swiss Army knife. These are extremists. That’s the world we’re living in right now, wake up folks. Read these opinions. Pay attention to what’s going on,” Newsom said. ...

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article261794722.html
 
Chase Morgan said:
GREAT to see Gav calling out these two filthy, hard-right, f***-face 'judges'... (y)

... “The only thing that can stop (California’s gun control laws) by the way are these extremist judges, which is an issue. You can ask Judge (Roger) Benitez about how he’s feeling about these last 10 days. Ask Judge (Ryan) Nelson how he’s feeling. Specifically Judge Nelson. ...

“I wonder how he’s feeling right now, what happened in Buffalo and what happened in Texas. Ripped from the pages of the Federalist Society, one of the 331 federal appellate court judges that Donald Trump gave this country. I wonder what Judge Nelson’s feeling. I wonder how proud he is of that opinion he wrote,” Newsom said. ...

“Judge Benitez, who said about our assault weapons ban that an assault weapon is nothing more than a Swiss Army knife. These are extremists. That’s the world we’re living in right now, wake up folks. Read these opinions. Pay attention to what’s going on,” Newsom said. ...

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Benitez compared the commonality and the utility of a Swiss Army knife to an AR-15, but some people are just too stupid to understand that.
 
Chase Morgan said:
GREAT to see Gav calling out these two filthy, hard-right, f***-face 'judges'... (y)

... “The only thing that can stop (California’s gun control laws) by the way are these extremist judges, which is an issue. You can ask Judge (Roger) Benitez about how he’s feeling about these last 10 days. Ask Judge (Ryan) Nelson how he’s feeling. Specifically Judge Nelson. ...

“I wonder how he’s feeling right now, what happened in Buffalo and what happened in Texas. Ripped from the pages of the Federalist Society, one of the 331 federal appellate court judges that Donald Trump gave this country. I wonder what Judge Nelson’s feeling. I wonder how proud he is of that opinion he wrote,” Newsom said. ...

“Judge Benitez, who said about our assault weapons ban that an assault weapon is nothing more than a Swiss Army knife. These are extremists. That’s the world we’re living in right now, wake up folks. Read these opinions. Pay attention to what’s going on,” Newsom said. ...

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article261794722.htm
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A sadly typical low blow. The only thing that's going to stop California's gun control laws is the Constitution. Which Judge Benitez and Judge Nelson upheld.

Let's take the one good piece of advice Newsom gave and read the decisions. Judge Benitez did NOT say that an "assault weapon" is nothing more than a Swiss Army knife. He compared the versatility of an AR-15 with a Swiss Army knife:
Like the Swiss Army Knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment. Good for both home and battle, the AR-15 is the kind of versatile gun that lies at the intersection of the kinds of firearms protected under District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008) and United States v Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939).

All Benitez and Nelson did is what they are supposed to do: Apply the law as written, while respecting the rulings of higher courts. That's their job, not to interpret the law the way Governor Newsom wishes it were written.
 
natman said:
A sadly typical low blow. The only thing that's going to stop California's gun control laws is the Constitution. Which Judge Benitez and Judge Nelson upheld.

Let's take the one good piece of advice Newsom gave and read the decisions. Judge Benitez did NOT say that an "assault weapon" is nothing more than a Swiss Army knife. He compared the versatility of an AR-15 with a Swiss Army knife:
Like the Swiss Army Knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment. Good for both home and battle, the AR-15 is the kind of versatile gun that lies at the intersection of the kinds of firearms protected under District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008) and United States v Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939).

All Benitez and Nelson did is what they are supposed to do: Apply the law as written, while respecting the rulings of higher courts. That's their job, not to interpret the law the way Governor Newsom wishes it were written.
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This benitez asshole apparently forgot to mention that the ar-15 is also great for mowing down dozens of elementary school kids.

In my view, these two right-wing 'judges' are seriously mentally-ill if they believe that teenagers should be able to legally purchase these mass-killing machines.

Wonder if we'll ever get a comment from either cowardly asshole about the ar-totin' teenage maniac in Buffalo, or the teenage mass-killer in texas...
 
Chase Morgan said:
This benitez asshole apparently forgot to mention that the ar-15 is also great for mowing down dozens of elementary school kids.

In my view, these two right-wing 'judges' are seriously mentally-ill if they believe that teenagers should be able to legally purchase these mass-killing machines.

Wonder if we'll ever get a comment from either cowardly asshole about the ar-totin' teenage maniac in Buffalo, or the teenage mass-killer in texas...
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We send 18 year old off to cannon fodder, why can't they buy a gun?
 
Rucker61 said:
Benitez compared the commonality and the utility of a Swiss Army knife to an AR-15, but some people are just too stupid to understand that.
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It's a stupid statement.
 
ecofarm said:
Too often the justice system is misconceived as a punishment system. Such an idea kinda half gets it. The justice system is about dealing with crime after the fact, true. It's about society being able to act in a manner, in response to a crime, so as to justify the existence of society.

But punishment is not justice. Public safety through incarceration and opportunity for redemption through rehabilitation are justice. It's not about punishment, as punishment does not justify the existence of society, it's about public safety and opportunity for redemption. If we misconstrue the system as punishment, we are one step from a cruelty system.
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Generally, the primary goals of sentencing are punishment, deterrence, incapacitation, and rehabilitation. It is not a misconception. The purpose of punishment is inextricable from our system of justice to provide fair treatment to each individual.
 
Bear5131 said:
We send 18 year old off to cannon fodder, why can't they buy a gun?
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Very few soldiers are allowed an assault rifle that is the nature of an AR15.
 
Bear5131 said:
We send 18 year old off to cannon fodder, why can't they buy a gun?
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Uh, cuz schools … and supermarkets … and hospitals aren't supposed to be f***in' war zones.

Letting teenagers (or anyone, frankly) legally purchase these mass-killing machines is PURE F***IN' MADNESS...
 
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