Federal Workers Suing President Trump

[HumblePi]

Lawyers representing 420,000 federal workers are suing Trump over the shutdown.

https://abc13.com/politics/federal-workers-suing-trump-white-house-over-government-shutdown/4996609/

Federal workers suing Trump administration over government shutdown

WASHINGTON, D.C. --
Federal workers are suing the Trump administration over the government shutdown.

One of the largest unions representing federal workers has hired a law firm out of Washington to protest the estimated 420,000 federal workers who are being required to work without pay.

 

[Cardinal]

Lawyers representing 420,000 federal workers are suing Trump over the shutdown.

https://abc13.com/politics/federal-workers-suing-trump-white-house-over-government-shutdown/4996609/

Federal workers suing Trump administration over government shutdown

WASHINGTON, D.C. --
Federal workers are suing the Trump administration over the government shutdown.

One of the largest unions representing federal workers has hired a law firm out of Washington to protest the estimated 420,000 federal workers who are being required to work without pay.

I have serious doubts about how well this will work, but I wish them the best.

 

[HumblePi]

I have serious doubts about how well this will work, but I wish them the best.

Secret Service are federal workers. What would happen if none showed up for work? It would never happen but fun to imagine anyway.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I said in another thread here that anyone eating meals in the White House is probably consuming record amounts of spit.
I suppose that would also include anyone taking their meals on Capitol Hill as well.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Secret Service are federal workers. What would if none showed up for work? It would never happen but fun to imagine anyway.

More than likely they're prohibited from striking or ghosting but I don't think much can be done about "slowdowns".

 

[Amelia]

I was hoping to the see the headline that they were suing him for blocking their pay raises with a false claim about what gave him the authority to do so.

That seems like a stronger case than suing him over a basic government shutdown ... unless he refuses to sign whatever it is that gives them their backpay.


Or maybe they can sue for damages for how their finances get screwed up because Trump decided to use them as a pawn to get money he promised he wouldn't demand.

 

[cpwill]

I have serious doubts about how well this will work, but I wish them the best.

Yeah. Emergency Essential personnel agree to that status when they are hired.

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[Cardinal]

Yeah. Emergency Essential personnel agree to that status when they are hired.

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And Trump is exploiting that agreement.

 

[Beaudreaux]

They'll get back-pay. That said, if they're required to work, they should be paid on time and not have to wait.

Why didn't this union sue Obama?

 

[cpwill]

And Trump is exploiting that agreement.

:shrug: if you want to accuse Obama and Trump of exploiting the agreement, okay. They signed up to hold that job, and don't have to stay there. Unlike the military, any of them can leave pretty much at any time (overseas workers might be delayed simply because of the administrative work if getting back).

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[Cardinal]

They'll get back-pay. That said, if they're required to work, they should be paid on time and not have to wait.

Why didn't this union sue Obama?

Trump isn't Obama. Stop it.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

They'll get back-pay. That said, if they're required to work, they should be paid on time and not have to wait.

Why didn't this union sue Obama?

Obama said that he would be proud to shut down the government?

 

[cpwill]

They'll get back-pay. That said, if they're required to work, they should be paid on time and not have to wait.

Why didn't this union sue Obama?

Excellent question. Maybe they were locked in the same basement the "anti-war" movement disappeared into as soon as he took office?

 

[cpwill]

Trump isn't Obama. Stop it.

He certainly is not. As regards being the Chief Executive during a government shut down, however... :shrug:

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[Cardinal]

:shrug: if you want to accuse Trump of exploiting the agreement, okay. They signed up to hold that job, and don't have to stay there. Unlike the military, any of them can leave pretty much at any time (overseas workers might be delayed simply because of the administrative work if getting back).

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I didn't say that they aren't free to look for other work or that they didn't make that agreement (on that latter point I honestly don't know one way or the other), only that Trump is exploiting that agreement. Not that I believe they'll have a chance in hell with the lawsuit, but it's accurate to say that Trump is exploiting that agreement just the same.

 

[cpwill]

Obama said that he would be proud to shut down the government?

For Obamacare? He certainly did so. Whether or not he said so, however, would be irrelevant, as the President's level of pride or lack thereof has zero impact whatsoever in questions of standing.

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[cpwill]

I didn't say that they aren't free to look for other work or that they didn't make that agreement (on that latter point I honestly don't know one way or the other).

Go search "Emergency Essential" on USAJobs.gov. You'll find that it's listed openly in the job description/requirements, and they also reiterate it in the conditions of the offer that they signed.

Only that Trump is exploiting that agreement.

Eh. I don't think I'd blame Obama for the importance of doing things like securing nuclear facilities, regardless of whether or not our elected officials are able to come to timely agreements on policy questions.


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[Cardinal]

Go search "Emergency Essential" on USAJobs.gov. You'll find that it's listed openly in the job description/requirements, and they also reiterate it in the conditions of the offer that they signed.

I really have no reason to doubt your claim. It makes Trump's exploitation of them that much scummier.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

For Obamacare? He certainly did so. Whether or not he said so, however, would be irrelevant, as the President's level of pride or lack thereof has zero impact whatsoever in questions of standing.

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No really, whataboutism is coming.

 

[HumblePi]

I'm sure they're all tuning in to Fox to hear how this is all Obama's fault.

 

[cpwill]

I really have no reason to doubt your claim. It makes Trump's exploitation of them that much scummier.

... You think it makes Obama and Trump scummy that emergency essential federal employees knew what they were getting into?

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[99percenter]

They'll get back-pay. That said, if they're required to work, they should be paid on time and not have to wait.

Why didn't this union sue Obama?

Because that shutdown was the gop's fault. They wanted to use the govt shutdown as a negotiation tool on obamacare and the gop is doing the same thing again, but this time for the wall.

 

[Cardinal]

... You think it makes Trump scummy that emergency essential federal employees knew what they were getting into?

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Is that what I said?

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Secret Service are federal workers. What would happen if none showed up for work? It would never happen but fun to imagine anyway.

They would deservedly be out of a nice job. And those federal workers might find jobs that other Americans will not do, go out and pick fruit or veggies in the fields, start appreciating that they will be getting paid, in almost all instances, for not working.

Complain to Stretch and Chuckie. Lots.

 

[HumblePi]

They would deservedly be out of a nice job. And those federal workers might find jobs that other Americans will not do, go out and pick fruit or veggies in the fields, start appreciating that they will be getting paid, in almost all instances, for not working.

Complain to Stretch and Chuckie. Lots.

People just cannot afford to go without a paycheck, it's just that simple. The majority of people are 2 paychecks away from bankruptcy so any protracted shutdown is going to literally send them to the poorhouse.