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FBI Agents Visit Fla. Pastor over Quran Burning

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Un retrievable since the place where you made such claims crashed and burned like it should have....But you knew that.....So I'll assume that you only said that disingenuously.

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LOLcat thinks you should avoid making personal accusations when you haven't got the recycled electrons to back them up.
 

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If you think this constitutes being investigated by the FBI, neither you nor nobody you know has ever had the privilege. :lol:

That said, nobody's saying what the visit was for, so it's a little early to accuse the FBI of investigating this guy.

Yeah... they were there for:

1. Tea.
2. Coffee.
3. Reeduction.
4. Pressure...

I say tea.

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Un retrievable since the place where you made such claims crashed and burned like it should have....But you knew that.....So I'll assume that you only said that disingenuously.


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You know what happens when you assume don't you.
Never made postings about the tappings.
 

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I have always been pretty consistent, that is one of the things that gets under your skin remember?


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You are dulusional. It has always been you inconsistancy that has gotten under my skin. How you always support your side but condemm the other for doing the same thing. You have a history of it.
 

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Still waiting, J-Mac. :lol:


You liberals are something else.....My opinion, (this is an opinion site) is that the FBI was sent by Obama to pressure the Pastor into not going through with the burning. He did also have Gates call him, and has yet to look into the Imam Rauf and his funding for the Mosque, so it does raise concerns. Not to mention the ramifications of using the FBI as a tool against political opponents.

Now, can this be proven with hard evidence that this was the case? No, I wasn't in the meeting, so I have no first hand knowledge, I am not privy to the orders of Obama himself so I can't say unequivocally this is the case, and it has not been reported to be the case by any media. But that is MY opinion. Just as yours is to give the benefit of the doubt in all matters with a nod toward defending anything this administration does, or enacts.

So go ahead with what ever stupid personal attack you will carry on with, it doesn't matter, nor does it sway my opinion of what I think they were doing there.


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You are dulusional. It has always been you inconsistancy that has gotten under my skin. How you always support your side but condemm the other for doing the same thing. You have a history of it.


what ever dude....It just wouldn't be any fun if we agreed would it now?


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So you support this nut exercising his first admendment rights even though it could put troops in more danger than they already are? Talk about being un-American. I am ashamed of you.

But, but, J-Mac has a problem with a website exercising their 1st amendment rights because it will endanger the troops! :lamo:lamo:lamo
 

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You know what happens when you assume don't you.
Never made postings about the tappings.


Easy to say, but if you have all of your postings for the past five years plus why don't you share them with us.....? I have a pretty good memory, and although I wouldn't be able to pull up past postings that were on a site now non existent, I guess those that know both of us will have to make up their own minds on the statements...I have a feeling that those that agree with your ideology will agree with you, and those that agree with mine will agree with me.


there you have it.


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But, but, J-Mac has a problem with a website exercising their 1st amendment rights because it will endanger the troops! :lamo:lamo:lamo


Do share.....But I will say this, my position on the Pastor is consistent. He has the right to burn the book, should he? NO. What don't you understand about that?


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Hmmmm....I wonder if the FBI has been dispatched to investigate the Imam Rauf yet? probably not.

j-mac

How do you know he wasn't investigated? I would bet you anything his organization was scrutinized with a fine tooth comb after 9/11. If not our FBI isn't doing their job and heads need to roll.
 

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You liberals are something else.....

Not a liberal. I've said it many times on this board. Please stop lying about my leaning.

My opinion, (this is an opinion site) is that the FBI was sent by Obama to pressure the Pastor into not going through with the burning. He did also have Gates call him, and has yet to look into the Imam Rauf and his funding for the Mosque, so it does raise concerns. Not to mention the ramifications of using the FBI as a tool against political opponents.

You did notice that the guy went to NYC to meet with Rauf, and said rather publicly that the reason he cancelled was because Rauf was going to meet with him?

Even if this isn't true, do you seriously for one minute think that someone as loud and proud as this chucklehead isn't going to leap at the opportunity to tell the world that the Feebs tried to pressure him into not burning the Koran?

So where's his press conference telling the President to suck it?

So go ahead with what ever stupid personal attack you will carry on with, it doesn't matter

Oh, you mean like how you (and others like you) persist in labeling me because I disagree with you?

Right. :lol:
 

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I have a pretty good memory, and although I wouldn't be able to pull up past postings that were on a site now non existent, I guess those that know both of us will have to make up their own minds on the statements

Oh, I made up my mind, and I don't even know what Crosscheck's ideology is.

Given your piss-poor performance with labeling me, I can only imagine how accurate your "memory" of someone else's posting are going to be. You can say whatever you want, lodge any accusations you wish, and they can't prove you wrong.

Since you can't put up, maybe it's time to shut up.
 

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Do share.....But I will say this, my position on the Pastor is consistent. He has the right to burn the book, should he? NO. What don't you understand about that?


j-mac

Not even a good attempt at a diversion. Baaaaaah!
 

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How do you know he wasn't investigated? I would bet you anything his organization was scrutinized with a fine tooth comb after 9/11. If not our FBI isn't doing their job and heads need to roll.

You think that the news wouldn't be all over that? But let's assume you are right, where is the funding for the Mosque of conquest coming from then?


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You think that the news wouldn't be all over that? But let's assume you are right, where is the funding for the Mosque of conquest coming from then?

The same place where you get money to buy groceries: The fuzzy nebulous world of IDONTGIVEA****.

Nobody ever asks where a congregation gets the cash for a church, why does anybody give a crap about this dude's funding?
 

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Not a liberal. I've said it many times on this board. Please stop lying about my leaning.

Hmmm, so you say, and have said before. Did I specifically say that "T.E. Dan is a liberal" I don't think so, I believe I was talking about liberals as a group. But hey, don't let that stop you....This is entertaining. Tell you what, take a conservative stand once and a while, and it may be questionable as to where you stand politically.


You did notice that the guy went to NYC to meet with Rauf, and said rather publicly that the reason he cancelled was because Rauf was going to meet with him?

Nope, sorry, last report was that Rauf would not meet with him, and that the closes thing he had was with some Florida Imam that can't speak for the project in NYC.

Even if this isn't true

What? Wait a minute....Aren't you the guy who is about to tell me to shut up?


do you seriously for one minute think that someone as loud and proud as this chucklehead isn't going to leap at the opportunity to tell the world that the Feebs tried to pressure him into not burning the Koran?

Depends on what was said to him in the meeting.....Could have been threatened with jail, I don't know....Do you?

Oh, you mean like how you (and others like you) persist in labeling me because I disagree with you?

Right.

Oh brother...toughen up man....

Oh, I made up my mind, and I don't even know what Crosscheck's ideology is.

Real critical thinker aren't you?

Given your piss-poor performance with labeling me, I can only imagine how accurate your "memory" of someone else's posting are going to be. You can say whatever you want, lodge any accusations you wish, and they can't prove you wrong.

Well, that's right, and You are correct to point out the fallacy of formal debate that I committed there. Good thing we are just tossing out opinions isn't it?

Since you can't put up, maybe it's time to shut up.

Why? who the hell are you?

To Crosscheck: I will concede I don't have any proof of my statement about you earlier, please accept my apology.

To Te Dan: Look tough guy I suggest we back off before one of us gets in trouble.


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Nobody ever asks where a congregation gets the cash for a church, why does anybody give a crap about this dude's funding?


This summary cartoon could shed some light:

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And it happens right around the world with the religious version of Hitler's Nazis radicalising Muslims in schools and mosques paid for by these people:

Blowback: Wahhabi imams radicalizing Muslims in the Balkans and elsewhere — 1389 Blog – Antijihadist Tech

The Wahhabi Invasion of America by Mark Silverberg



Dispatches - Undercover Mosque

YouTube - Dispatches - Undercover Mosque - The Return - (Part 1 of 5)






Bitching at being caught with their pants down? That's the brass neck we all know and love: Muslim outrage at Channel 4 film prompts new inquiry by watchdog - Times Online , etc.

Church congregations aren't fascists are they?!
 
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Hmmm, so you say, and have said before. Did I specifically say that "T.E. Dan is a liberal" I don't think so, I believe I was talking about liberals as a group. But hey, don't let that stop you....This is entertaining.

You said it while responding to my post, which you quoted, and you started off with the word "you." Please stop lying.

Tell you what, take a conservative stand once and a while, and it may be questionable as to where you stand politically.

I have done so a number of times.

Nope, sorry, last report was that Rauf would not meet with him, and that the closes thing he had was with some Florida Imam that can't speak for the project in NYC.

Yes, but the pastor said that that was why he wouldn't be burning the Koran, ever. He said nothing about the FBI pressuring, intimidating, or investigating him. Which kinda shoots your theory to hell.

Depends on what was said to him in the meeting.....Could have been threatened with jail, I don't know....Do you?

That would be the dumbest thing the FBI could possibly do. It would give him all the ammo he needed to step in front of the mikes and blast the establishment for siding with teh ebbul Muslims. Get real.

Well, that's right, and You are correct to point out the fallacy of formal debate that I committed there. Good thing we are just tossing out opinions isn't it?

Thank you for admitting you're totally full of crap.

Why? who the hell are you?

Some dude on the Internet who isn't going to just sit there while you lie, and lie, and lie. Just like you're some dude on the Internet who is going to sit there and lie, and lie, and lie. :lol:
 

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You think that the news wouldn't be all over that? But let's assume you are right, where is the funding for the Mosque of conquest coming from then?


j-mac

Perhaps the thorough investigations that are done by our investigative and intelligence agencies are not privy to the media or the public? Perhaps it's classified? :eek:

If you truly believe the funding for the Mosque if it came from clandestine sources could be hidden from our agencies you really are much more naive than I thought.
 

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You said it while responding to my post, which you quoted, and you started off with the word "you." Please stop lying.

The next word was "liberals"....See the "s" at the end? That usually denotes more than one.....Me thinks someone is just a little over sensitive ......:2wave:


I have done so a number of times.

I'll keep a closer eye out.

Yes, but the pastor said that that was why he wouldn't be burning the Koran, ever. He said nothing about the FBI pressuring, intimidating, or investigating him. Which kinda shoots your theory to hell.

So he was lied to....Not unheard of.


That would be the dumbest thing the FBI could possibly do. It would give him all the ammo he needed to step in front of the mikes and blast the establishment for siding with teh ebbul Muslims. Get real.

Maybe that is what you would think, I think you are a little smarter than this Pastor. But with that said, there are all kinds of possibilities.


Thank you for admitting you're totally full of crap.

I didn't say that...You are twisting my words to be cute....how very liberal of you....:mrgreen:


Some dude on the Internet who isn't going to just sit there while you lie, and lie, and lie. Just like you're some dude on the Internet who is going to sit there and lie, and lie, and lie.

Sounds like a personal problem to me.


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The next word was "liberals"....See the "s" at the end? That usually denotes more than one.....Me thinks someone is just a little over sensitive ......:2wave:

Go ahead, throw up as many smoke screens as you want, you're still a liar.

I didn't say that...You are twisting my words to be cute....how very liberal of you....:mrgreen:

"Gee, I'm sorry I have no evidence whatsoever to back up my attempt to smear you" definitely translates into how full of crap you are.
 

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Go ahead, throw up as many smoke screens as you want, you're still a liar.

that's your opinion...That and a dollar still leaves you .38 cents short of a refill on coffee at the local truck stop....;)


"Gee, I'm sorry I have no evidence whatsoever to back up my attempt to smear you" definitely translates into how full of crap you are.

Man, you seem to be a constantly angry guy....you know who else goes through life angry at everything? Oh yeah, liberals.....BOOM! :mrgreen::lamo


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