Fauci warns coronavirus could kill as many as 200,000 Americans

[joko104]

The death rate of the virus itself, not the Italian population.

No one knows the death rate of the virus nor any way to know, since the overwhelming number of people who are infected will never know it nor ever be tested. This is calculated to assure maximizing the panic.

 

[Jay Falcon]

A year from now nobody will know his name.

Of course they will.

It will all be available in history books and the internet.

He'll be the expert who tried to help to the best of his ability. Trump, on the other hand, will be the man-child president willing to risk millions of lives for the sake of the economy, though more out of fear of not being reelected than the financial well being of Americans. But don't worry, you'll also be remembered, as one of his most loyal supporters, who denied science to the very end, even with illness and death knocking on your doors.

 

[Cardinal]

Republicans' loathing of expertise is why we're all in this **** barrel to begin with, but whatever.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Simple: exponential growth like in rest of the world as well as here in USA... As to which models he looked at and how he came up with that range, that I don't know.

On a side note, check out the slopes of those curves... USA is doing the worst of all on flattening the curve.

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To be fair, the USA is several weeks behind these other countries...

 

[joko104]

To be fair, the USA is several weeks behind these other countries...

To be rational, that chart is worthless.

Without knowing how many people have been infected, there is no manner to know how many have and no way to calculate any death rate. Without the necessary statistics, any claimed calculation can reach any conclusion anyone wants to. The only meaningful number is how many known covid-19 deaths there has been as a percentage of the total population. Any other number is meaningless.

 

[joko104]

Of course they will.

It will all be available in history books and the internet.

He'll be the expert who tried to help to the best of his ability. Trump, on the other hand, will be the man-child president willing to risk millions of lives for the sake of the economy, though more out of fear of not being reelected than the financial well being of Americans. But don't worry, you'll also be remembered, as one of his most loyal supporters, who denied science to the very end, even with illness and death knocking on your doors.

Won't we still be on national lock down a year from now? They said a vaccination won't be available for 18 months. Do you want people to die? (It seems some progressives do).

 

[iguanaman]

He didn't make a prediction. He said he couldn't.

NASA: "We can't say whether or not an asteroid might soon destroy all life on earth. But it could happen. Any other update you want?"

NASA is watching for asteroids and there are none that are a threat. Covid 19 is already here and it is deadly.

 

[iguanaman]

How does Fauci know? The virus has been known to exist for 4 months. How can he be an "expert' this soon?

That's why he is the expert and you are not. Virus's are not new and this one is quite similar to many others that he has studied.

 

[joko104]

Do you shut down an entire country, spend trillions and lose trillions more, cause a national panic and all the real, dangerous and mental health issues, along possibly permanent negative effects on society, on a maybe 100,000 to 200,000?

Really?

 

[JANFU]

Dr. Fauci likes making headlines. It is his few days in the sun.

Really- Hospitals in NY and other places desperate for masks, ventilators and on and on

Rural US- Medical care sucks- C19 would run rampant thru these areas with a higher death rate per case

 

[JANFU]

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you...Perfection.

I mean, it's stupid, but perfection of absolute idiocy is still a kind of perfection.

Sig worthy

 

[Drawdown]

Really- Hospitals in NY and other places desperate for masks, ventilators and on and on

Rural US- Medical care sucks- C19 would run rampant thru these areas with a higher death rate per case

Then they should order some, and yes rural care does suck thanks to Obamacare closing down small hospitals, but they can ship their cases off to the big city where they will get excellent progressive care.

 

[JANFU]

Then they should order some, and yes rural care does suck thanks to Obamacare closing down small hospitals, but they can ship their cases off to the big city where they will get excellent progressive care.

Yes Dorothy will just click her heels and poof they are in a fully staffed ICU

How many Dorothy's are ambulance drivers?

Now could you get serous?

 

[Integrityrespec]

And yet he did.



Because he went to school for it and worked in this field for a long time and has seen other situations similar to this and know which models to look at and which ones to dismiss, etc.



And yet he felt comfortable enough to give us a wide range. True, he also said not to hold him to it, but that's a given.



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We have about 40,000 people die in auto accidents every hear in the U.S. and I bet you folks jump in your cars everyday without a second thought about it. Deaths of the flu are averaging 45,000 a year but we keep going to work, going to school.

 

[Drawdown]

Yes Dorothy will just click her heels and poof they are in a fully staffed ICU

How many Dorothy's are ambulance drivers?

Now could you get serous?

Where do you think the hell people in rural areas go when they flip an ATV, have a stroke or OMG get coronavirus? They get shipped to the closest hospital, often flown there if they are critical. It may shock you to learn but having a hike to care is not uncommon in rural areas.

 

[JANFU]

Where do you think the hell people in rural areas go when they flip an ATV, have a stroke or OMG get coronavirus? They get shipped to the closest hospital, often flown there if they are critical. It may shock you to learn but having a hike to care is not uncommon in rural areas.

And when they are full?

When C19 sweeps a few counties, that depend upon the same hospital/s

 

[Drawdown]

And when they are full?

When C19 sweeps a few counties, that depend upon the same hospital/s

Drop them in the parking lot, do the six minute sterilizing vapor, and head back to pick up another one.

 

[Mach]

We have about 40,000 people die in auto accidents every hear in the U.S. and I bet you folks jump in your cars everyday without a second thought about it. Deaths of the flu are averaging 45,000 a year but we keep going to work, going to school.

And this according to Trump will be 100-200K GOOD case outcome. Trump said Queens has 18 wheeler trucks filling up with body bags. Just business as normal? Trump said it’s stuff he’s never seen before. That’s after weeks of downplaying it, and his Happy Easter joke with packed churches. Never seen this many EME calls in Queens..ever.

So more than the flu and all auto accidents for multiple years...as a communicable virus, with no vaccine. Sounds like a crisis. Maybe that’s why we are on an unprecedented lockdown?

 

[jpn]

Yep, but why between 100K (4X the current count) and 200K (8X the current count)? What, in his opinion, would make that 100K difference? That would have been my immediate follow-up question.

Model? Range of possibilities? Perhaps looking at the model and also seeing first hand the incompetence of national leadership?

COVID-19

 

[jpn]

And this according to Trump will be 100-200K GOOD case outcome. Trump said Queens has 18 wheeler trucks filling up with body bags. Just business as normal? Trump said it’s stuff he’s never seen before. That’s after weeks of downplaying it, and his Happy Easter joke with packed churches.

By tomorrow he could very easily be back to Easter. The man is seriously deranged.

 

[Jay59]

The number is down from millions to a couple hundred thousand. That's an order of magnitude reduction.

How is this good news not being celebrated?

 

[Hamish Howl]

The number is down from millions to a couple hundred thousand. That's an order of magnitude reduction.

How is this good news not being celebrated?

When did Fauci say millions?

 

[jpn]

And it's so convenient to pretend 'nobody knows' because they don't have 100% certainty, or that Fauci's in it for the attention, or for the funding. This is just right-wing projection - because Trumpists don't know jack, don't want to learn and are always in it for the money.

It's climate change, only in ultra-fast motion. A party that denies climate science and evolution isn't going to be hospitable to good epidemiology.

 

[PirateMk1]

The number is down from millions to a couple hundred thousand. That's an order of magnitude reduction.

How is this good news not being celebrated?

You mean we aren't all gona die?!

 

[Hamish Howl]

We have about 40,000 people die in auto accidents every hear in the U.S. and I bet you folks jump in your cars everyday without a second thought about it. Deaths of the flu are averaging 45,000 a year but we keep going to work, going to school.

You can avoid the flu with a shot. You can take steps to keep yourself alive on the road.

The only way to stay safe with this crud is to keep your distance.