Fledermaus
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Oh, so theres a chance? LMAO
Most of us have known this since the first few days the vaccines came out. Where have you been?Ok then little fella, why was there a push for vaccine mandates? Pilots, doctors and nurses fired. Then it was struck down in court.
I can't wait for this creep to face the music
The fat lady is warming up.
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White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci acknowledged during an appearance on Fox News that while vaccines may protect from symptoms of the virus, they “don’t protect overly well” when it comes to transmission of COVID.
Fauci made the comments on ‘Your World’ while talking to host Neil Cavuto.
Cavuto asked Fauci to respond to Americans who are unsure about taking another round of the vaccine.
“And they’re beginning to wonder about the regimen for treating it, whether you get two vaccination shots, whether you get a booster, another booster. They just don’t know. What do you tell them?” he asked.
One of the things that’s clear from the data is that, even though vaccines, because of the high degree of transmissibility of this virus, don’t protect overly well, as it were, against infection, they protect quite well against severe disease leading to hospitalization and death,” Fauci responded.
It’s important to remember that we’re not far removed from a time when authorities insisted that vaccines were “100 per cent safe and effective” and anyone who challenged that narrative was demonized as an anti-vaxxer.
Fauci Acknowledges Vaccines Don’t Protect “Overly Well” Against COVID Infection
He should know.summit.news
Most of us have known this since the first few days the vaccines came out. Where have you been?
I specifically said "The COVID vaccine contains inactivated coronavirus material." It factually does. And in no way does it suppress the immune system. The body has no problem identifying foreign material in your body, and the vaccines were not poorly designed. They are surprisingly effective given the speed at which they were developed, have been thoroughly tested, and are FAR safer than getting infected by all metrics.You didn't even get the official story right. The covid mRNA vaccines do NOT contain inactivated covid virus. You missed the entire point of what an mRNA vaccine is.
And it is BECAUSE mRNA vaccines do NOT contain the whole virus that they can suppress the immune response to the live covid infection. These vaccines cause some of your own cells to create the covid spike protein, and to then display them to your immune system. Your immune system is therefore not sure if these cells are part of its own body, or a foreign invader. It does not necessarily destroy them.
So we can have these spikes in our bodies, causing damage, permanently. And each time we get another covid vaccine, or covid infection, our immune system might react more weakly, allowing the build up of these toxic spike proteins in various organs of the body.
These vaccines were hurriedly and poorly designed. The companies who made them probably thought it was a good idea, but we are increasingly seeing that it was not.
However, as more and more people get their health damaged by the vaccines, the damage will probably be blamed on covid, not the vaccines, since just about everyone is getting covid, vaccinated or not.
I specifically said "The COVID vaccine contains inactivated coronavirus material." It factually does. And in no way does it suppress the immune system. The body has no problem identifying foreign material in your body, and the vaccines were not poorly designed. They are surprisingly effective given the speed at which they were developed, have been thoroughly tested, and are FAR safer than getting infected by all metrics.
Educate yourself:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...erent-types-of-covid-19-vaccines/art-20506465
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea.../coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccines-infographic
https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine/how-covid-19-vaccines-work
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health.../h/how-does-a-covid-19-mrna-vaccine-work.html
https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/coronavirus-disease-(covid-19)-vaccines
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html#:~:text=These vaccines contain material from,genetic material from the vaccine.
Right. The scientists are all lying because... evil?The covid mRNA vaccines do NOT contain inactivated coronavirus material. They contain mRNA.
And you have absolutely no way of knowing if these vaccines suppress the immune response to covid. The CDC won't tell you that. The covid spikes are displayed to the immune system on the surface of the body's OWN HUMAN CELLS. That means, the immune system will not be sure if it should destroy the cells with spikes or not. The immune response to covid is likely to be suppressed, therefore. And THAT could explain why a vaccinated person might have milder symptoms when infected with covid. Symptoms result from the immune system fighting the virus.
Because someone who's too selfish or stupid to not get vaccinated can spread the virus to others. Thats one reason why we can't get rid of it.why's that? if the person dies, they die. the show must go on.
Right. The scientists are all lying because... evil?
genetic material from the COVID-19 virus is placed in a modified version of a different virus (viral vector). When the viral vector gets into your cells, it delivers genetic material from the COVID-19 virus that gives your cells instructions to make copies of the S protein. Once your cells display the S proteins on their surfaces, your immune system responds by creating antibodies and defensive white blood cells. If you later become infected with the COVID-19 virus, the antibodies will fight the virus.
Viral vector vaccines can't cause you to become infected with the COVID-19 virus or the viral vector virus. Also, the genetic material that's delivered doesn't become part of your DNA. The Janssen/Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine is a vector vaccine. AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford also have a vector COVID-19 vaccine.
Regardless, the people who developed these vaccines know what they are doing. They would not clear them for human use if they were harmful.You are talking about the J&J vaccine, not mRNA vaccines.
Regardless, the people who developed these vaccines know what they are doing. They would not clear them for human use if they were harmful.
So, you don't have any idea how the mRNA covid vaccines work. You assume the people who developed them know exactly what they are doing. Instead of having blind faith in God, you have blind faith in human scientists.
Face what music?
Please make sense.
Vaccines save lives.
They were working fine but the virus kept spreading with unvaccinated trumpers and allowed to evolve mutations to evade vaccines. Trumpists should have just gotten the vaccine to begin with.
Indeed. The covid variants have been a problem. The fault lies on those who refused to be vaccinated.And they were very effective at even stopping transmission against the original strain, the one they were designed to protect against.
Unfortunately, inept leadership and general public stupidity allowed the virus to spread and mutate.I recently read a comment from a respected immunologic that stated had we got 90% of the population vaccinated Covid would be behind us.
I have blind faith in no one. But what I don't believe is that I as a layman know more about how mRNA covid vaccines work than the consensus of professionals with PhD's around the world who have dedicated their lives to studying how viruses and vaccines work. I also don't believe that it is possible for virtually all the healthcare professionals and virologists in the world to be in on a giant conspiracy to irresponsibly trick innocent people into taking potentially dangerous vaccines that they don't understand in order make a little bit of money off the suffering of others.So, you don't have any idea how the mRNA covid vaccines work. You assume the people who developed them know exactly what they are doing. Instead of having blind faith in God, you have blind faith in human scientists.
They were working fine but the virus kept spreading with unvaccinated trumpers and allowed to evolve mutations to evade vaccines. Trumpists should have just gotten the vaccine to begin with.
I recently read a comment from a respected immunologic that stated had we got 90% of the population vaccinated Covid would be behind us.
I have blind faith in no one. But what I don't believe is that I as a layman know more about how mRNA covid vaccines work than the consensus of professionals with PhD's around the world who have dedicated their lives to studying how viruses and vaccines work. I also don't believe that it is possible for virtually all the healthcare professionals and virologists in the world to be in on a giant conspiracy to irresponsibly trick innocent people into taking potentially dangerous vaccines that they don't understand in order make a little bit of money off the suffering of others.
It takes Trump level narcissism to believe the former, and tinfoil hat level paranoia and distrust in the human race to believe the latter.
Actually, they do through establishing herd immunity.The covid vaccines do NOT prevent the virus from spreading. You are still repeating the old pro-vax Democrat narrative.
Funny how after millions of vaccinations, there are few reports, if any, of any significant negative reactions.There are plenty of experts who do NOT think these genetic vaccines are safe or effective.
So all you have is a conspiracy theory?You won't hear them on your mainstream Democrat/corporation owned TV new. "Dangerous misinformation" that criticizes the vaccines is censored. Why do you trust governments and agencies that openly declare they are practicing censorship?
Evidence shows vaccines are effective and beneficial.Anyone can state anything, with no evidence.
Beneficial for fat people with underlying issues. The other 99% of us are just fine.Actually, they do through establishing herd immunity.
Funny how after millions of vaccinations, there are few reports, if any, of any significant negative reactions.
So all you have is a conspiracy theory?
Evidence shows vaccines are effective and beneficial.
There are plenty of experts who do NOT think these genetic vaccines are safe or effective. You won't hear them on your mainstream Democrat/corporation owned TV new. "Dangerous misinformation" that criticizes the vaccines is censored. Why do you trust governments and agencies that openly declare they are practicing censorship?
Or Twitter or TikToc"Plenty of experts" = YouTube experts
Why was there a push for vaccine mandates?Ok then little fella, why was there a push for vaccine mandates? Pilots, doctors and nurses fired. Then it was struck down in court.
I can't wait for this creep to face the music
The fat lady is warming up.
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White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci acknowledged during an appearance on Fox News that while vaccines may protect from symptoms of the virus, they “don’t protect overly well” when it comes to transmission of COVID.
Fauci made the comments on ‘Your World’ while talking to host Neil Cavuto.
Cavuto asked Fauci to respond to Americans who are unsure about taking another round of the vaccine.
“And they’re beginning to wonder about the regimen for treating it, whether you get two vaccination shots, whether you get a booster, another booster. They just don’t know. What do you tell them?” he asked.
One of the things that’s clear from the data is that, even though vaccines, because of the high degree of transmissibility of this virus, don’t protect overly well, as it were, against infection, they protect quite well against severe disease leading to hospitalization and death,” Fauci responded.
It’s important to remember that we’re not far removed from a time when authorities insisted that vaccines were “100 per cent safe and effective” and anyone who challenged that narrative was demonized as an anti-vaxxer.
Fauci Acknowledges Vaccines Don’t Protect “Overly Well” Against COVID Infection
He should know.summit.news
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