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Famous Atheist

CherubRam said:
Famous Atheist

What have Atheist done to make the world a better place to live in? Here is a short list of modern day Atheist leaders.

Adolf Hitler acknowledged that he abhorred organized religion. There is evidence that he engaged in “nazi mysticism” or occultism. Adolf Hitler was raised a Catholic, he became a Illuminist, and while the dictator of Germany he became an Atheist.

Joseph Stalin (Russian Dictator)
Mao ZeDong (Chinese Dictator)
Pol Pot (Cambodian Dictator)
Slobodan Milosevic (Serbian Dictator)
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (Russian Dictator)
Benito Mussolini (Italian Dictator)

Napoleon Bonaparte: He claimed that “all religions have been made by men”

Kim Jong Il: Atheist, although in North Korea he and his father are deified. A strange twist.

Jim Jones: Jim Jones was quoted as saying he used his church to bring people to atheism.

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987)
Suharto (Communists 1967-66)
Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45)
Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56)
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. Born: October 7, 1952. (Russian Dictator)

What all of these men have in common, is that they were mass murderers who had no respect for life.
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Hitler was not an atheist, he was a theist. You can argue he wasnt your BRAND of theist but he was a theist. Strike 1
Jim Jones was a theist. Provide the quote. He believed in his religious movement.
If the kims were deified, they are not atheists.
Benito Mussolini was a theist.
 
Questerr said:
Okay? And?

History also says there was a prophet named Mohammad. Why aren’t you a Muslim?
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Alla / Allah / Alilah is the name of a Pagan god. The word Alilah means "The god ascends." Referring to the rising morning sun.
 
Whats really the point of this thread?
 
The atheist form of government is in fact very a religious endeavor .
It is actually the commissioning of Government as God by substitution.
The atheist government proposition being that since there is no God humans have been divinely given absolutely no freedoms or rights by birth, therefore all allowable rights & freedoms must come from, or be denied by Government, since there is no higher authority.
 
bomberfox said:
Hitler was not an atheist, he was a theist. You can argue he wasnt your BRAND of theist but he was a theist. Strike 1
Jim Jones was a theist. Provide the quote. He believed in his religious movement.
If the kims were deified, they are not atheists.
Benito Mussolini was a theist.
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I do not agree with your argument.
 
bomberfox said:
Whats really the point of this thread?
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It has the sense that Cherubram saw a Ben Garrison cartoon and didn’t think through any larger point.
 
Eatomus said:
The atheist form of government is in fact very a religious endeavor .
It is actually the commissioning of Government as God by substitution.
The atheist government proposition being that since there is no God humans have been divinely given absolutely no freedoms or rights by birth, therefore all allowable rights & freedoms must come from, or be denied by Government, since there is no higher authority.
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Do you have any references?
 
if you believe in a deity you are not an atheist by definition.
 
CherubRam said:
Famous Atheist

What have Atheist done to make the world a better place to live in? Here is a short list of modern day Atheist leaders.

Adolf Hitler acknowledged that he abhorred organized religion. There is evidence that he engaged in “nazi mysticism” or occultism. Adolf Hitler was raised a Catholic, he became a Illuminist, and while the dictator of Germany he became an Atheist.

Joseph Stalin (Russian Dictator)
Mao ZeDong (Chinese Dictator)
Pol Pot (Cambodian Dictator)
Slobodan Milosevic (Serbian Dictator)
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (Russian Dictator)
Benito Mussolini (Italian Dictator)

Napoleon Bonaparte: He claimed that “all religions have been made by men”

Kim Jong Il: Atheist, although in North Korea he and his father are deified. A strange twist.

Jim Jones: Jim Jones was quoted as saying he used his church to bring people to atheism.

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987)
Suharto (Communists 1967-66)
Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45)
Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56)
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. Born: October 7, 1952. (Russian Dictator)

What all of these men have in common, is that they were mass murderers who had no respect for life.
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I made a list! Honey...

Atheism is proportional to education. The greater one's education, the more likely one is an atheist. Seventy percent of those with a college education are atheists (81% graduate degree). Therefore, a supermajority of our presidents have been atheists, regardless of what they claimed to believe.

I'll leave the list to you. Please list those presidents who likely were atheists. I believe nearly all of them had a college education.
 
Questerr said:
Does having religion mean you have respect for life? The leaders of the Taliban, ISIS, and Lords Resistance Army are extremely religious.
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Or what about war mongering christians in this country, they don't respect life. All those who shit on the poor, shit on homosexuals and transgendered, pretty much shit on everybody. Religious people are more often the most vile people out there, and they hide behind their religion to justify their shitty behavior. the more religious someone is, the more ****ed up they tend to be
 
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Thread of the week. /s
 
Questerr said:
None of those leaders would agree they are using their religion wrongly.

Too bad no gods are willing to show up on Earth to give definitive answers on how people should act.
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Oh, they have, Christ, Buddha, Krishna, Ram, Chaitanya, Srila Prabhupada, the Misfit, Godfre, Oo, Liberty, Nada, Meru, the list goes on and on, Hercules, Michael, Gabriel, the other Archangels and Elohim, Helios, the other Gods of the Mountains, the Great Divine Director, Goddess of Purity, Goddess of Light and hundreds of others, the six Goswamis, the Panca Tattva, Osho Rashnishi, he was cool, he would sit in meditation and his voice would eminate from above him as he lectured.
 
CherubRam said:
Do you have any references?
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Promotion of Atheism as a Principle of the Communist Ideology - Case Study: Romania By Alin Goron

The Communist ideology called for the denial of Christianity as a form of "mysticism" filled with "superstitions", but particularly as one of the factors that impeded social, economic and cultural progress. Scientific socialism, however, was meant to awaken class consciousness, setting Romanian society on a path towards true modernity. Thus a real battle ensued on the ideological front between two entities, the secular and ecclesiastical authorities, arising from the divide between traditional religious beliefs and atheist Marxism. The actions of the authorities against religious propaganda included both practical measures, which involved activities that filled the free time of the villagers, but also coercive measures consisting in political pressure or arrests. In spite of the communist regime's efforts to impose its own cultural agenda, the effects were long overdue, with rather modest results. Romania's forced development was faced with some inherent problems of the process of modernization and industrialization. The forced imposition of a foreign ideology to a conservative Eastern European area relying on obsolete mindsets, a society where 80% of the population lived in rural areas as of the end of the Second World War, required a longer period of time than the regime had originally planned.
 
Now that I got you guys all wound-up it time to go. Bye for now.
 
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