Facts About Biden That Will Never Change

[poweRob]

More "facts that will never change."

Rep. Jim Jordan famously noted during the impeachment hearing:

"The idea that we have the transcript [of Trump's July 25 phone call with Ukraine's president], there was no quid pro quo in the transcript, the two individuals on the call, President Trump and [Ukraine] President [Volodymyr] Zelensky, have repeatedly said that there was no pushing, no pressure, no linkage between the security assistance dollars and any type of investigation in Ukraine," Jordan went on. "The Ukrainians didn't even know at the time of the call that aid had been held and most importantly, they took no action. They never started an investigation, they never promised to start an investigation, they never announced an investigation, they took no action to get the aid released.

"These four facts will never change, no matter how long Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff talk."

These facts never changed, and yet Nancy Pelosi and her minions impeached President Trump over a phone call in a partisan charade during a time when they should have been paying more attention to the China Virus. She was supported in this process by the Democrats' apologists in mainstream media.

Here are some facts about Biden that will never change:

1. Tara Reade claims Joe Biden sexually molested her in 1993 and there are contemporaneous wittnesses that have attested to this. His running mate, Kamala Harris said she believes Reade. The media ignores this.

"According to the New York Times, a friend of Reade said she described an incident at the time, involving Biden. Two more people, another friend and Reade’s brother, have said she mentioned “a traumatic sexual incident involving Biden”."

Who is Tara Reade and what are her allegations against Joe Biden?

The former vice-president has denied an accusation that he sexually assaulted a former staffer in 1993 when he was a senator

www.theguardian.com

Brett Kavanaugh was haranged by the Democrats, including Kamala Harris, for weeks over accusations of sexual assault without a shred of evidence. MSM was complicit in the attempted character assassination of this innocent family man.

2. Joe Biden has for months claimed to have no knowledge of his son's relationship with Burisma. We now have pictures of Biden with his son and Burisma officials playing golf, as well as emails from what is claimed to be Hunter Biden's laptop suggesting that the "big guy" was getting a cut of the 40-50K/month Hunter was getting from Burisma. Most of MSM chooses to defend Biden's actions or ignore this issue entirely.

Hunter Biden scandals explained: Ukraine, China, drug history and more

From his eyebrow-raising dealings in Delaware, China, and Ukraine to controversies involving drug use and child support, Hunter Biden is no stranger to scandal.

www.foxnews.com

Schiff and Pelosi, again with the help of their shills in mainstream media, could not get enough of the allegations against Trump in the fake Steele Dossier. MSM could not get enough of the corrupt FBI Operation Hurricane based on falsified FISA reports and lies by Comey, Brennan and others. Schiff claimed he had "solid evidence" that Trump colluded with the Russians. Where is this? The Mueller report proved nothing. Schiff is now claiming "Hunter Biden email stories come 'from the Kremlin."" He of course presents not a shred of evidence, and Director of National Intelligence John Ratliffe denies that this is Russian propaganda.

""Let me be clear: The intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we shared no intelligence with Chairman Schiff or any other member of Congress that Hunter Biden’s laptop is part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” Ratcliffe added."

Ratcliffe, Schiff battle over Biden emails, politicized intelligence

Director of National Intelligence (DNI) John Ratcliffe and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) are publicly battling over the emails allegedly recovered from a laptop belon…

thehill.com

2a. Biden extorted the Ukrainian Government demanding that they fire a prosecutor who was investigating Burisma or he would have the Obama Administration withold $1 billion dollars in support.
(DuckDuck the video.)

Get informed. Biden, Democratic leadership and MSM are lying to you. Vote Trump2020.

The #1 Fact is he will be your president.

 

[RenoCon]

Yup, keep tilting at windmills.

Your post is insane. We have a worldwide pandemic and you claim it was because of a Democrats attempt to cover up Joe Biden's corruption schemes, really? ...

Where do I say that in this quote?

"And since the impeachment we have learned that Biden needs to be investigated and that Comey needed to be fired (the alleged obstruction claim). Ironic, huh? Turns out the whole partisan, expensive, impeachment waste of time accomplished nothing, distracted from attention to the evolving China Virus problem, and was merely an effort by the Democrats to cover up the prior Administration's (including Joe Biden's) various corruption schemes."

Your reading comprehension is atrocious.

 

[Peter King]

Your quoted comment contained "hyperbole and deflection." The topics, Trumps taxes, etc. have been "thoroughly hashed out over in these pages before." ("pages" meaning all of DP) I was not being personal regarding any prior characteristics of your posts. I see the confusion, but think you doth protest too much (again, just commenting on the above post and not a general critique of prior posts).

Then you should have written in other threads, pages are in a thread. And previous pages when you are on page 2 of a thread is just illogical.

And you were talking about facts of Biden being crooked, his taxes prove differently IMO, which again is not something we can say about Trump's taxes as he is too afraid/chicken/crooked to release them (take your pick).

 

[j brown's body]

More "facts that will never change."

Rep. Jim Jordan famously noted during the impeachment hearing:

"The idea that we have the transcript [of Trump's July 25 phone call with Ukraine's president], there was no quid pro quo in the transcript, the two individuals on the call, President Trump and [Ukraine] President [Volodymyr] Zelensky, have repeatedly said that there was no pushing, no pressure, no linkage between the security assistance dollars and any type of investigation in Ukraine," Jordan went on. "The Ukrainians didn't even know at the time of the call that aid had been held and most importantly, they took no action. They never started an investigation, they never promised to start an investigation, they never announced an investigation, they took no action to get the aid released.

"These four facts will never change, no matter how long Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff talk."

These facts never changed, and yet Nancy Pelosi and her minions impeached President Trump over a phone call in a partisan charade during a time when they should have been paying more attention to the China Virus. She was supported in this process by the Democrats' apologists in mainstream media.

Here are some facts about Biden that will never change:

1. Tara Reade claims Joe Biden sexually molested her in 1993 and there are contemporaneous wittnesses that have attested to this. His running mate, Kamala Harris said she believes Reade. The media ignores this.

"According to the New York Times, a friend of Reade said she described an incident at the time, involving Biden. Two more people, another friend and Reade’s brother, have said she mentioned “a traumatic sexual incident involving Biden”."

Who is Tara Reade and what are her allegations against Joe Biden?

The former vice-president has denied an accusation that he sexually assaulted a former staffer in 1993 when he was a senator

www.theguardian.com

Brett Kavanaugh was haranged by the Democrats, including Kamala Harris, for weeks over accusations of sexual assault without a shred of evidence. MSM was complicit in the attempted character assassination of this innocent family man.

2. Joe Biden has for months claimed to have no knowledge of his son's relationship with Burisma. We now have pictures of Biden with his son and Burisma officials playing golf, as well as emails from what is claimed to be Hunter Biden's laptop suggesting that the "big guy" was getting a cut of the 40-50K/month Hunter was getting from Burisma. Most of MSM chooses to defend Biden's actions or ignore this issue entirely.

Hunter Biden scandals explained: Ukraine, China, drug history and more

From his eyebrow-raising dealings in Delaware, China, and Ukraine to controversies involving drug use and child support, Hunter Biden is no stranger to scandal.

www.foxnews.com

Schiff and Pelosi, again with the help of their shills in mainstream media, could not get enough of the allegations against Trump in the fake Steele Dossier. MSM could not get enough of the corrupt FBI Operation Hurricane based on falsified FISA reports and lies by Comey, Brennan and others. Schiff claimed he had "solid evidence" that Trump colluded with the Russians. Where is this? The Mueller report proved nothing. Schiff is now claiming "Hunter Biden email stories come 'from the Kremlin."" He of course presents not a shred of evidence, and Director of National Intelligence John Ratliffe denies that this is Russian propaganda.

""Let me be clear: The intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we shared no intelligence with Chairman Schiff or any other member of Congress that Hunter Biden’s laptop is part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” Ratcliffe added."

Ratcliffe, Schiff battle over Biden emails, politicized intelligence

Director of National Intelligence (DNI) John Ratcliffe and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) are publicly battling over the emails allegedly recovered from a laptop belon…

thehill.com

2a. Biden extorted the Ukrainian Government demanding that they fire a prosecutor who was investigating Burisma or he would have the Obama Administration withold $1 billion dollars in support.
(DuckDuck the video.)

Get informed. Biden, Democratic leadership and MSM are lying to you. Vote Trump2020.

1. Tara Reade's claim has been discredited. That she told others about it proves nothing.
2. The only evidence of Biden knowing about his son's work is hearsay that has been discredited, in the WSJ, no less.
2a. Burisma was not being investigated at the time that Biden and as well as senate Republicans and international organizations were calling for the firing of the prosecutor.

 

[j brown's body]

More Biden facts that will never change:

3. "Biden has repeatedly promised to end fracking and the use of fossil fuels."

Joe Biden Caught Flip-Flopping on Fracking in Pennsylvania

Joe Biden’s emergence from his basement on Monday has made a few headlines… just not for the right reasons. Biden’s awkward bumbling proved that he can barely string a coherent sente...

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Now he says he is not going to ban fracking. Which Joe Biden do we believe?

4. Joe Biden's family has gotten rich off of his foreign connections in the 47 years he has been in politics. MSM should spend more time reporting this.

Here's How Joe Biden's Family Got Rich While He Was Vice-President

pjmedia.com

President Trump is donating his paychecks to various charities and has had a decrease in net worth since becoming President. The media insists we need to see his personal tax returns. Why? I want to know more about the corrupt politician Biden and his financial dealings. Not the past dealings of a New York real estate tycoon.

Get informed. Biden, Democratic leadership and MSM are lying to you. Vote Trump2020.

3. Biden called for the end of fracking on federal land, not overall.
4. Joe Biden has never accepted a penny of foreign money.

 

[mike2810]

Too bad you chose not to be better informed.

Do you want to discuss the women who have accused Trump of sexual assaulting them?
Let's call it two off setting petalites and move on.

According to Trump if Biden is elected "seniors" will have no A/C or heat due to wind power. I wonder why younger people will have A/C and not seniors.
Seems unfair. Or maybe Trump is just an idiot.

Trump says that if Biden is elected, seniors will have 'no air conditioning during the summer'

At a campaign rally in Florida, the president accused the former vice president of enacting extreme energy policies if he is elected.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[The Mark]

I think all this stuff being conveniently released in the last couple weeks about Biden is too late.

People have mostly made up their minds already
They don't trust the news generally, and the more partisan and/or known to spread false information the source is, the more easy it is for someone to dismiss.

Add to that the human nature to dismiss information which counters what they believe, and...

 

[RenoCon]

Then you should have written in other threads, pages are in a thread. And previous pages when you are on page 2 of a thread is just illogical.
...

I really was trying to take some responsibility in agreeing that there may have been confusion regarding "pages" in my post. I thought I was cutting you some slack for your misunderstanding of this. But, you insist on digging a bigger hole. Now I find it is my responsibility to help enlighten you.

You are right, there are "pages" (technically a shortcut for "webpages") in a thread. Lets say you have a library with real books at home. (You may have to stretch to imagine this.) Suppose one section of your library contains political books. (Likely a bigger stretch.) Let's say we get in a discussion and I point to your library and say; "In these pages you will find...". Since the books you see there are full of pages, it is simply a choice that I use "pages" in lieu of "books." That is simply a choice of words. It is not right or wrong, and either way it gets the point across. If I point to a specific book and say; "In the pages of that book you will find...", then I have limited my comment to the pages of that specific book. That you should choose to say that my reference to "pages" as being "just illogical" helps demonstrate how shallow your arguments in this thread really are.

 

[RenoCon]

1. Tara Reade's claim has been discredited. That she told others about it proves nothing.

Show me your proof that his has been "discredited." I provided references for you.

2. The only evidence of Biden knowing about his son's work is hearsay that has been discredited, in the WSJ, no less.

This may have been discredited by some opinion writer in the WSJ. There are other opinion and news writers that say otherwise. You have apparently looked this up in the WSJ. Give us your specific reference. I have full access to the WSJ and have been unable to find your specific source.

And emails on Hunter's lap top and, Hunter's business partner at the time, Tony Bobulinski say otherwise:

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe says the government has no intelligence to support the disinformation claim. A repair-shop order from April 2019 contains Hunter’s name and what appears to be his signature. The shop owner supplied a subpoena showing the computer and hard drive were seized by the FBI in December 2019. And the Biden campaign hasn’t said the emails are phony.

Opinion | The Bidens and China Business

The story won’t go away without explanation, even if the Veep wins.

www.wsj.com

Bobulinski, the recipient of one of the emails retrieved from Hunter Biden’s laptop, went public on Wednesday night with a statement saying he confirms its authenticity and detailed how former Vice President Joe Biden — the Democrat nominee for president in this year’s election, which is just over 10 days away — was personally involved in many dealings with his son’s business associates.

Biden Insider Tony Bobulinski Provides Documents to Senate Investigators

Biden family insider Tony Bobulinski has provided documents to Senate investigators from the Homeland Security and Finance Committees.

www.breitbart.com

More references. See how easy that is!

2a. Burisma was not being investigated at the time that Biden and as well as senate Republicans and international organizations were calling for the firing of the prosecutor.

Joe Biden’s decision to pressure Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor, who was investigating an oil and gas conglomerate that employed the former vice president’s son, came shortly after the company lobbied the Obama White House to end the probe.

Biden Pressured Ukraine to Fire Prosecutor After Burisma Lobbying Effort

Joe Biden's pressuring of Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor came after Burisma Holdings lobbied the Obama White House.

www.breitbart.com

Again...references. Easy peasy.

3. Biden called for the end of fracking on federal land, not overall.

Biden is for fracking if he is in Western Pennsylvania, and against it if he talking to his dozens of supporters at a rally in New York City. Where he plans to ban it is irrelevant. I am unaware of the geology of the fracking industry, but here in Nevada, where 90% of the state belongs to the Federal Government, if banning gold mining only "on federal land" was eliminated it would destroy Nevada's economy, and the gold industry in the United States as a whole. Biden has endorsed the Green New Deal in order to get Socialist Bernie Sanders off his back. AOC and her Green New Deal want to end fracking and end fossil fuels including clean and efficient natural gas.

And during the Democratic Debates there's this:

Dana Bash: thank you, vice president. just to clarify, would there be any place for fossil fuels including coal and fracking in a biden administration?

Joe Biden: No. We would work it out. We would make sure it’s eliminated, and no more subsidies for either one of those, any fossil fuel.

Joe Biden at Democrat Debate: Eliminate Coal, Fracking, Fossil Fuels

Joe Biden declared at the second Democrat debate that he would fight climate change by eliminating coal, fracking, and fossil fuels.

www.breitbart.com

4. Joe Biden has never accepted a penny of foreign money.

Show me your proof. Did Rachel Maddow or Joe tell you that? I am quite sure his tax returns don't have a line item stating "Income from Extorting Foreign Countries and Foreign Multinational Corporations:.........$3.5 Million" (Hmmm...though it might if he filled these out himself...fortunately he likely has very smart accountants taking care of this for him.)

 

[Deuce]

Besides dropping a deuce on their graves?
No, I think that pretty much covers it.......thanks for asking,

You can't use that word, only I can use that word!

 

[RenoCon]

You can't use that word, only I can use that word!

Unless of course he is talking about dropping you on their graves.

 

[Peter King]

I really was trying to take some responsibility in agreeing that there may have been confusion regarding "pages" in my post. I thought I was cutting you some slack for your misunderstanding of this. But, you insist on digging a bigger hole. Now I find it is my responsibility to help enlighten you.

You are right, there are "pages" (technically a shortcut for "webpages") in a thread. Lets say you have a library with real books at home. (You may have to stretch to imagine this.) Suppose one section of your library contains political books. (Likely a bigger stretch.) Let's say we get in a discussion and I point to your library and say; "In these pages you will find...". Since the books you see there are full of pages, it is simply a choice that I use "pages" in lieu of "books." That is simply a choice of words. It is not right or wrong, and either way it gets the point across. If I point to a specific book and say; "In the pages of that book you will find...", then I have limited my comment to the pages of that specific book. That you should choose to say that my reference to "pages" as being "just illogical" helps demonstrate how shallow your arguments in this thread really are.

If you don't want misunderstanding, do not use language that is ambiguous. And please, I don't need cutting slack because I clearly did not do something "wrong" or "incorrect". And I am not digging a whole. I am trying to get you to talk logically, I am that kind of a fool (I used to be a person who had to fill in legal forms and I like the use of the right words to prevent this thing that we are now discussing).

And my arguments are shallow? Your entire thread is made up of fluffed up propaganda by the republicans and idiots like Rudy. Nobody has proved Biden has molested anybody, took money from foreign individuals or governments and has done nothing of what you claimed in your OP.

His taxes are a clear sign that he is playing this whole thing honestly, something that Trump does not do because he cannot do that. He is a crook, pure and simple and his actions with regard to his taxes and his behavior throughout his career and his presidency prove how much of a crook he truly is.

 

[RenoCon]

If you don't want misunderstanding, do not use language that is ambiguous. And please, I don't need cutting slack because I clearly did not do something "wrong" or "incorrect". And I am not digging a whole. I am trying to get you to talk logically, I am that kind of a fool (I used to be a person who had to fill in legal forms and I like the use of the right words to prevent this thing that we are now discussing). [My emphasis.]

This must be extremely embarrassing for you! ...LOL

 

[Peter King]

This must be extremely embarrassing for you! ...LOL

Nah, I have an excuse, it is 5.15 where I live and I am Dutch, English is my second language. You have no excuse for posting nonsense. Also, at least I can easily spot untruths and the really fake arguments you have posted here. Sorry, but your "facts about Biden" are nothing more than "lies about Biden".

 

[RenoCon]

...
2. The only evidence of Biden knowing about his son's work is hearsay that has been discredited, in the WSJ, no less.
...

I believe this may be the article you were referring to?

Hunter Biden’s Ex-Business Partner Alleges Father Knew About Venture

Hunter Biden’s Ex-Business Partner Alleges Father Knew About Venture

An ex-business partner of Hunter Biden said he consulted his father about a planned venture with a Chinese oil company. Joe Biden denied any involvement in the venture and corporate records reviewed by The Journal show no role for him.

www.wsj.com

Was it the headline or the text of this article that dissuaded you from providing the reference?

In a statement to reporters Thursday, Anthony Bobulinski said that in 2017 Hunter Biden consulted his father about a planned venture with Chinese oil company CEFC China Energy Co. to invest in the U.S. and elsewhere. Mr. Bobulinski was also a partner.
...
Mr. Bobulinski said he took part in a meeting with Hunter, Joe Biden and Joe Biden’s brother James Biden in Los Angeles in 2017 when they discussed “the Biden family business plans with the Chinese, of which [Joe Biden] was plainly familiar at least at a high level.”
...
A Biden campaign spokesman didn’t immediately respond to a question about the alleged meeting with Mr. Bobulinski. James Biden and an attorney for Hunter Biden didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Perhaps this was the thread you are grasping at to suggest that this was "discredited, in the WSJ, no less.":

Mr. Gilliar told the Journal: “I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure. I am unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former Vice President. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”
...
In the correspondence provided by Mr. Bobulinski, an email he received from Mr. Gilliar in May 2017 proposed a possible equity arrangement for the five partners. The email references “10 held by H for the big guy?” Mr. Bobulinski said the “H” referred to Hunter Biden and the “big guy” was Joe Biden. Mr. Gilliar didn’t respond to a request for comment, nor did the other partner in the venture, Mr. Walker.

So Bobulinski has no problem putting his name to the claim that Joe was involved. We now have emails that appear to prove that Joe was involved. Yet, the other partners, including Hunter, Gilliar and, apparently, Joe, now have no comment, having been caught in the lie.

(My thanks to another thread author that referenced this article.)

 

[RenoCon]

Nah, I have an excuse, it is 5.15 where I live and I am Dutch, English is my second language. You have no excuse for posting nonsense. Also, at least I can easily spot untruths and the really fake arguments you have posted here. Sorry, but your "facts about Biden" are nothing more than "lies about Biden".

I respect that English is your second language and find it amazing that Europeans often speak 3 or 4 languages. (We have shirttail relatives in Belgium that, out of necessity, have to master 5 different languages in early adulthood.) You, nonetheless seemed quite sure about your English use of "pages" versus "threads." Unfortunately, I fear that U.S. politics are also a "second language" to you and I am curious as to how you form such a strong, and wrong, opinion about our politics?