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Calm2Chaos said:It's a good article dispelling a lot of the common myths heaped on by a media bias. And it will be torn to shreds as lies and propaganda by the liberals the read it...LOL
Bergslagstroll said:How long did the Bush administration say that USA would stay before the invasion? And how long did the american people think that USA would stay right before the war? Do you have any pre war statements from the administration there the say that the war will last ten year or even five year?
Stinger said:They didn't say.
"The war on terror is not over, yet it is not endless. We do not know the day of final victory, but we have seen the turning of the tide. No act of the terrorists will change our purpose, or weaken our resolve, or alter their fate. Their cause is lost. Free nations will press on to victory. "
President Bush May 1, 2003
If you want the "Real" information that is going on in "The Front" your best bet is talk to someone who has been there! Anything less is just foolish?oldreliable67 said:Karl Zinsmeister has posted a really interesting report on his recent month in Iraq. Found here, he covers a lot of ground.
"Your editor has just returned from another month in Iraq—my fourth extended tour in the last two and a half years. During November and December I joined numerous American combat operations, including the largest air assault since the beginning of the war, walked miles of streets and roads, entered scores of homes, listened to hundreds of Iraqis, observed voting at a dozen different polling sites, and endured my third roadside ambush. With this latest firsthand experience, here are answers to some common queries about how the war is faring."
Too long to copy and paste here, but recommended reading for those who want a non-MSM very objective view of whats happening on the ground in Iraq. Please, go read it, then come back here and post your thoughts.
stsburns said:If you want the "Real" information that is going on in "The Front" your best bet is talk to someone who has been there! Anything less is just foolish?
Hoot said:Bull!
That quote you used was "after" we went to war in Iraq.
Former assistant to Rumsfield, Ken Aldeman, said a full year before the first smart bomb fell on Baghdad..." I believe demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk. Let me give simple, responsible reasons: 1) It was a cakewalk last time; 2) they've become much weaker; 3) we've become much stronger; and 4) now we're playing for keeps." Washington Post Feb 13, 2002
"The bulk of Iraqi military, police and beauracracy will join the U.S. to undertake the main responsibility of securing order in the country, With basic services in place, the U.S. can quickly begin the task of rebuilding the nation and earn the long lasting gratitude of an already welcoming Iraqi people. The U.S. will then hand off the task of governing to the Iraqi regime and begin withdrawing troops in a matter of months." Under Secretary of Defense Douglas Feith
When Army chief of Staff, General Shineski told reporters a month before the war that the U.S. would need several hundred thousand troops to stabilize post war Iraq, Dick Cheney, on Meet the Press said..."To suggest that we need several hundred thousand troops there after military operations have ended, I don't think that's accurate."
Paul Wolfowitz on Meet the Press..." It's hard to conceive that it would take more forces to provide stability in post-Saddam Iraq then it would to conduct the war itself and to secure the surrender of Saddam's security forces and his army, hard to imagine."
Yeah right...hard to imagine our own CIA warned the White House that armed opposition was inevitable after the war.
There's just a ton of quotes from the Bush administration that led the American people to believe we'd throw some civics textbooks out of a back of a humvee, and democracy would miracously sprout, and we'd be in and out of Iraq in no time, with the ever lasting gratitude of the Iraqi people.
Stop stealing my lines!....GySgt said:I've said before..."This was and is bigger than just Iraq."
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