Fact Check: Trump's State Of The Union Address

[CaughtInThe]

I'll just refer you to Mediaite dot com. They are a pro left, anti Trump news aggregate site. Look at all their anti Northam coverage. It all comes from Dems.

That's 100% false. Rush, Hannity and Fox have been harping on it, which is why Trump mentioned it last night (without insulting racists).

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Wow, another angry, hate filled liberal. How long can it be until the democrat party is labeled a hate group. Because it is. Even you haters admit it.

Wow, another dumb, pathetic attempt at trolling. Pathetic whining

 

[Mycroft]

That's 100% false. Rush, Hannity and Fox have been harping on it, which is why Trump mentioned it last night (without insulting racists).

Okay. Have it your way.

Be that guy my sig is talking about.

 

[Conservative]

NPR fact-checks Trump's State of the Union Address.

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/05/690345256/fact-check-trumps-state-of-the-union-address

There is a lot of analysis. NPR's first comment is more of an observation.

Remarkably, President Trump did not acknowledge the new power dynamic in Washington. The last four presidents have all lost the House during their presidency. The immediate three before Trump — Bill Clinton in 1995, George W. Bush in 2007 and Barack Obama in 2011 — all hit gracious notes at the beginning of their speeches, congratulating the opposition party for its electoral success. Trump did not.

And it goes on from there. Overall, I thought they were pretty accomodating to Trump. The most prominent deception that was uncovered was arguably Trump's comment - "And then we had the case of the governor of Virginia, where he stated he would execute a baby after birth."

NPR's reply, which I thought was their most blatant fact check --- "Last week, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam sparked controversy commenting on a failed bill in his state that would have removed a requirement that three doctors certify that a woman in her third trimester needs an abortion to protect her life or health.

He was asked what would happen if a woman wanted an abortion near the end of her pregnancy.

“When we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way. It’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

That led Trump and Republican lawmakers to accuse Northam of supporting infanticide.

In fact, only about 1 percent of abortions take place after 21 weeks of gestation, which is still the second trimester. Third-trimester abortions are exceedingly rare and usually happen only when the fetus is not viable."

Thank you President Trump for showing exactly who the Democrats are today and for standing up for the Private sector and our economic model

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-rejects-socialism-at-sotu-as-expressionless-dems-sit-unmoved

 

[Conservative]

Wow, another dumb, pathetic attempt at trolling. Pathetic whining

A bad night for you and the rest of the radical left

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-rejects-socialism-at-sotu-as-expressionless-dems-sit-unmoved

 

[Conservative]

NPR fact-checks Trump's State of the Union Address.

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/05/690345256/fact-check-trumps-state-of-the-union-address

There is a lot of analysis. NPR's first comment is more of an observation.

Remarkably, President Trump did not acknowledge the new power dynamic in Washington. The last four presidents have all lost the House during their presidency. The immediate three before Trump — Bill Clinton in 1995, George W. Bush in 2007 and Barack Obama in 2011 — all hit gracious notes at the beginning of their speeches, congratulating the opposition party for its electoral success. Trump did not.

And it goes on from there. Overall, I thought they were pretty accomodating to Trump. The most prominent deception that was uncovered was arguably Trump's comment - "And then we had the case of the governor of Virginia, where he stated he would execute a baby after birth."

NPR's reply, which I thought was their most blatant fact check --- "Last week, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam sparked controversy commenting on a failed bill in his state that would have removed a requirement that three doctors certify that a woman in her third trimester needs an abortion to protect her life or health.

He was asked what would happen if a woman wanted an abortion near the end of her pregnancy.

“When we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way. It’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

That led Trump and Republican lawmakers to accuse Northam of supporting infanticide.

In fact, only about 1 percent of abortions take place after 21 weeks of gestation, which is still the second trimester. Third-trimester abortions are exceedingly rare and usually happen only when the fetus is not viable."

Trump's best economic results for the first two years of any Presidency!! Fact check that?

 

[Buzz62]

I simply cannot believe this lying piece of gutter trash is president.

He's simply an inveterate liar. Everything he says is false. It'a amazing.

I hate him and anyone who supports him. You are all diseased animals.

Well well well...isn't that interesting. Diseased animals you say.
Gee I'm sure glad your not important. You say you hate half the population of you nation.
Good on ya...

 

[KLATTU]

SOTU schadenfreude: watch CNN try to rationalize away their own instant poll showing 76% of viewers positive on Trump’s SOTU

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...rs_positive_on_trumps_sotu.html#ixzz5el3xP4Tn

A stunning 59% were very positive, with anohter 17% somewhat positive, for a grand total of 76% - a landslide in anyone's book.

The segment that they broadcast on it is a classic of rationalization, attempting to minimize the outcome that went so contrary to their own prejudices. A stunning 59% were very positive, with anohter 17% somewhat positive, for a grand total of 76% - a landslide in anyone's book.

:laughat::donkeyfla

 

[Buzz62]

Rush's brain was bad enough before he totally killed all functioning brain cells with extremely excessive, long term, oxycontin abuse. The fact his followers know this to be truth and don't even care speaks volumes about his base, and why they summarily dismiss all of Trump's many,many short comings which clearly make him totally unqualified to be the POTUS.

And yet, he beat "Queen Hilary".
That must really anger you...

 

[Buzz62]

I thought that, aside from the bit about the investigation, which he might have done well to leave out, he hit it outta the park.
Hell he even had those white KKK-looking women standing and applauding.

76% approval rating.
I guess the remaining 24% are Libbie posters in here...:roll:

 

[Logician Man]

And yet, he beat "Queen Hilary".
That must really anger you...

Not really. It told me two things. The Dems became overly confident and apathetic and didn't get out and vote as they should have, but more importantly, it re-affirmed the old saying ' the dumbing down of America' is highly understated.

 

[Buzz62]

Not really. It told me two things. The Dems became overly confident and apathetic and didn't get out and vote as they should have, but more importantly, it re-affirmed the old saying ' the dumbing down of America' is highly understated.

Well that's sad.
You don't even consider that Trump is now the POTUS because his message was superior.
I find the ease in which you and others toss half you own nation into a garbage heap...disturbing.

 

[bongsaway]

Off-Topic:

Sorry of the off-topic remark, but do you find it bizarre that Trump has had nothing to say about the central element of Northam's debacle, the matter of an image of people appearing in blackface and KKK robe on Northam's yearbook page? Given all the recriminations and declarations that Trump is himself a racist, how it is that the man didn't jump at the opportunity to at least denounce blackface and the KKK, even if he had nothing specifically to say about Northam and whether Northam should resign? Of all the overtly racist imagery and groups that a POTUS can easily and unequivocally denounce, deride and distance himself from, blackface and the KKK are top on the list.​

Trump's handlers knew better than to let him go after northham, much safer to demonize the brown people illegally crossing our border in invasion force numbers. By they way, those numbers are at a fifty year low of illegal crossings, real emergency level crossings.

 

[Buzz62]

Trump's handlers knew better than to let him go after northham, much safer to demonize the brown people illegally crossing our border in invasion force numbers. By they way, those numbers are at a fifty year low of illegal crossings, real emergency level crossings.

Why is skin colour such an issue with you?
I have never heard Trump identify these caravan people by colour.
Gee...you would have a racial issue...would you?

 

[Kobie]

Well well well...isn't that interesting. Diseased animals you say.
Gee I'm sure glad your not important. You say you hate half the population of you nation.
Good on ya...

You think half of the population are Trumpanzees?

 

[Kobie]

Wow, another angry, hate filled liberal. How long can it be until the democrat party is labeled a hate group. Because it is. Even you haters admit it.

Get bent.

 

[bongsaway]

Why is skin colour such an issue with you?
I have never heard Trump identify these caravan people by colour.
Gee...you would have a racial issue...would you?

Not by specifically mentioning their color, he instead calls them rapists, murderers, drug dealers, criminals and he supposes 'some' good people. We all know these people are not white he doesn't have to say it. Maybe if you were black and living in the united states you would understand better. Yes, I do have racial issues, we do not treat everyone the same in this country because ones skin color is different than another. Whites only, no colored. That stood for years and years in america.

 

[Obscurity]

Well that's sad.
You don't even consider that Trump is now the POTUS because his message was superior.
I find the ease in which you and others toss half you own nation into a garbage heap...disturbing.

Less than half the nation, when you consider numbers.

Let's look at real issues here:

70% of Americans support Medicare for all.
over 60% of Americans support higher taxes on the wealthy.

In fact, an overwhelming majority of americans support Bernie Sanders' economic policies.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx
https://www.kff.org/global-health-p...-alternative-or-creating-a-single-payer-plan/
https://www.kff.org/medicaid/poll-finding/medicare-and-medicaid-at-50/
5 facts on how Americans view taxes | Pew Research Center
https://news.gallup.com/poll/190775/americans-say-upper-income-pay-little-taxes.aspx

Now. I agree, consensus does not equal correctness, but at the end of the day, we as a nation need to be honest about the economic system we have.

1. Rich folks own the land, and thus the power.
2. Rich folks own the businesses, and thus the power of employment.
3. Rich folks own the stock market, and thus, leverage the power of the retirement system via crashes and booms.

The rich used to be taxed much higher. Yes, they had some write offs, but that's not the point. The rich have, as the owners of production, DESPITE being taxed lower, consolidated power by removing employee ownership; consolidated wealth by removing profit sharing, and consolidated political clout by mucking with campaign finance laws.

We need to be real about these issues and not just use soundbytes like "lower taxes create jobs!" to sell public policy. A job is useless if it doesn't pay the bills.

Over all, americans, the majority, do not agree with the republican agenda. If for some reasons the city dwellers all left for the country, and spilled into red state america, what do you think would happen?

 

[Incredulous]

Well that's sad.
You don't even consider that Trump is now the POTUS because his message was superior.
I find the ease in which you and others toss half you own nation into a garbage heap...disturbing.

He became president because he ran a massively successful smear campaign against Hilary Clinton - with Russian support. She actually had a political record to attack. Trump had nothing but his questionable business acumen and practices. Hilary actually won the people's vote. In fact, she did so with the largest margin by a candidate who lost the electoral college. Politics won, the American people lost.

 

[Logician Man]

Well that's sad.
You don't even consider that Trump is now the POTUS because his message was superior.
I find the ease in which you and others toss half you own nation into a garbage heap...disturbing.

Like so many others, I don't care what you find disturbing.

 

[tres borrachos]

I don't know about anyone else, but I am so sick to death of abortion being a political issue. And I have been for decades.

Plus there is a lot of irony that a man who was vocally pro-choice for his entire life, including partial birth abortion, is pretending to care about the issue today. It's a political wedge. I'm so tired of hearing about it.

Anyway, I loved how the Sheriff of El Paso fact checked him, and showed what a liar Trump is. Yes, all Presidents lie, deceive, stretch the truth, whatever. Not to the degree this guy does.

One other thing that struck me is he has a bad tendency to come across as if he is reading someone else's words (he is, but they all do/did), and doesn't really believe a word he's saying. Reagan, as he was delivering the words written by someone else, made them his own. He believed in what he said. Trump doesn't, for the most part.

That said, he did what he had to do last night, but I'm sure he'll manage to screw up whatever good he did himself with his usual idiotic barrage of Tweets over the next few days.

And he needs to stop the Nixonesque pissing about partisan investigations. He doesn't do himself any good when he goes there.

 

[Common Sense 1]

From the State of the Union Speech

"No issue better illustrates the divide between America’s working-class and America’s political class than illegal immigration. Wealthy politicians and donors push for open borders, while living their lives behind walls and gates and guards."

 

[Fletch]

Get bent.

Haters gonna hate.

 

[Fletch]

He became president because he ran a massively successful smear campaign against Hilary Clinton - with Russian support. She actually had a political record to attack. Trump had nothing but his questionable business acumen and practices. Hilary actually won the people's vote. In fact, she did so with the largest margin by a candidate who lost the electoral college. Politics won, the American people lost.

Some of you liberals could live a thousand years and still never understand why Trump won. Whats really going to be funny is when he does it again.

 

[Incredulous]

Some of you liberals could live a thousand years and still never understand why Trump won. Whats really going to be funny is when he does it again.

:bs

Not a liberal. I was actually registered Rep. until Trump.

Trump did not win the election based on any of his merits or actual qualifications. He won because he's better at lying through his teeth. Make lots of noise, repeat things until they become true, deny or minimize when the "truth" is no longer convenient. The man flip flops so much that no one can possibly know what he's for or against. He's a disgrace to the office that he occupies.