FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones (1 Viewer)

[Binary_Digit]

Deer Trail, CO. is considering an ordinance that would grant hunting licenses to shoot unmanned government drones. The FAA threatens criminal and civil liability for the hunters, as though they shot at a manned aircraft.

Deliberate destruction of government property, or righteous civil disobedience? Personally, I think the drones are unreasonable search because no warrant was issued, and unconstitutional laws should be disobeyed until repealed. But this has a public safety issue that sort-of muddys the water.

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[Phys251]

Shooting guns AT drones? That is stupid. I don't care how much I hate drones, there is no way in hell I am gonna even attempt to shoot one down.

Let me put it this way: The FAA would be the least of my concerns if I were to ever try.

 

[radcen]

Deer Trail, CO. is considering an ordinance that would grant hunting licenses to shoot unmanned government drones. The FAA threatens criminal and civil liability for the hunters, as though they shot at a manned aircraft.

Deliberate destruction of government property, or righteous civil disobedience? Personally, I think the drones are unreasonable search because no warrant was issued, and unconstitutional laws should be disobeyed until repealed. But this has a public safety issue that sort-of muddys the water.

Article is here

Anybody who actually gets a permit AND shoots one down is an idiot. Even if it is legitimate civil disobedience any forethinking person has to know it will be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible.

Plus, as you mention, it is a serious potential safety hazard.

I'm not so sure about the unreasonable search, though. To the best of my knowledge, one does not own the sky above their property up to infinity. I cannot ban planes from flying over my property in a way that a country can ban planes from flying through their airspace. Hence, this is more similar to a police car and using binoculars to look into a property from a common public area (public street).

 

[Ray410]

So you would have to draw a Drone Tag?

 

[Ikari]

Deer Trail, CO. is considering an ordinance that would grant hunting licenses to shoot unmanned government drones. The FAA threatens criminal and civil liability for the hunters, as though they shot at a manned aircraft.

Deliberate destruction of government property, or righteous civil disobedience? Personally, I think the drones are unreasonable search because no warrant was issued, and unconstitutional laws should be disobeyed until repealed. But this has a public safety issue that sort-of muddys the water.

Article is here

Righteous civil disobedience clearly.

 

[clownboy]

Doesn't matter to me that I'll never use it, I want one of those permits. :mrgreen:

 

[rathi]

What goes up must come down, and that applies for bullets and the drone both. I'm all for protesting against the surveillance state, but not if it risks getting innocent people hurt.

 

[radcen]

Doesn't matter to me that I'll never use it, I want one of those permits. :mrgreen:

It's a trick. Kind of like sending people with warrants notices that they've won a prize. It puts you on "the list" for the next ATF raid.

 

[Goshin]

Shooting guns AT drones? That is stupid. I don't care how much I hate drones, there is no way in hell I am gonna even attempt to shoot one down.

Let me put it this way: The FAA would be the least of my concerns if I were to ever try.

As amusing as it would be, I'd be concerned about spent rounds coming down who-knows-where.... and if you actually managed to KO the drone, the DRONE is coming down somewhere too... like maybe through someone's living room roof...

 

[Hard Truth]

I would hope that there is a height below which it is illegal to intrude over someone's property. I would guess that intruding below that minimum height that would be considered trespassing and the property owner has a right to take some action. There may be more aggressive actions legal in a stand your ground state.

However, using a rope or net to catch to catch the drone seems safer and more justifiable legally.

I would like to see citizens use their own drones to fly over the homes of the public officials supportive of the recent expansion of domestic surveillance programs that include people who are not under any suspicion. Small remote control helicopters with cameras are available and relatively inexpensive.

 

[ttwtt78640]

What is "an identifiable piece of a drone"? If that "piece" costs less than $50, or so, then this could get quite profitable.

 

[Peter King]

Deer Trail, CO. is considering an ordinance that would grant hunting licenses to shoot unmanned government drones. The FAA threatens criminal and civil liability for the hunters, as though they shot at a manned aircraft.

Deliberate destruction of government property, or righteous civil disobedience? Personally, I think the drones are unreasonable search because no warrant was issued, and unconstitutional laws should be disobeyed until repealed. But this has a public safety issue that sort-of muddys the water.

Article is here

You wouldn't shoot a police chopper would you? Police helicopters also do searches without warrants, you wouldn't gun them down? So what is the legal justification to do this with drones?

Civil disobedience should never have a violent nature, that is not disobeying, that is taking your own views on legal issues into your own hands and being judge, jury and executioner. Or at least that is my view, violence can never be part of civil disobedience.

 

[Moot]

Deer Trail, CO. is considering an ordinance that would grant hunting licenses to shoot unmanned government drones. The FAA threatens criminal and civil liability for the hunters, as though they shot at a manned aircraft.

Deliberate destruction of government property, or righteous civil disobedience? Personally, I think the drones are unreasonable search because no warrant was issued, and unconstitutional laws should be disobeyed until repealed. But this has a public safety issue that sort-of muddys the water.

Article is here

Why would they need a permit or license if the government doesn't recognize it as a lawful license or permit?

 

[Gonzo Rodeo]

Someone shooting guns into the air is being neither responsible nor safe. This is grandstanding, nothing more.

 

[jamesrage]

Deer Trail, CO. is considering an ordinance that would grant hunting licenses to shoot unmanned government drones. The FAA threatens criminal and civil liability for the hunters, as though they shot at a manned aircraft.

Deliberate destruction of government property, or righteous civil disobedience? Personally, I think the drones are unreasonable search because no warrant was issued, and unconstitutional laws should be disobeyed until repealed. But this has a public safety issue that sort-of muddys the water.

Article is here

I am all for shooting down the drones.The government has no business spying on the people and it should be costly to the government when they do something they shouldn't. This town has a population of nearly 550,so I do not see a shot drone crash landing into someone's home. Although I think if I was to do such a thing I would not get a permit.Because the permit holders will be the first people the feds will be checking.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Deer Trail, CO. is considering an ordinance that would grant hunting licenses to shoot unmanned government drones. The FAA threatens criminal and civil liability for the hunters, as though they shot at a manned aircraft.

Deliberate destruction of government property, or righteous civil disobedience? Personally, I think the drones are unreasonable search because no warrant was issued, and unconstitutional laws should be disobeyed until repealed. But this has a public safety issue that sort-of muddys the water.

Article is here

Undecided if I would ever take part in such civil disobedience... but if I did... I would do it with this rifle..



It's a $22K rifle that allows any rank amateur to hit a moving target at 1000 yards... and live stream it to your ipad...

 

[jamesrage]

You wouldn't shoot a police chopper would you? Police helicopters also do searches without warrants, you wouldn't gun them down? So what is the legal justification to do this with drones?

Unlike a helicopter a drone doesn't have to manned and can go places a helicopter can without being noticed.Drones can also be mass produced.

Civil disobedience should never have a violent nature, that is not disobeying, that is taking your own views on legal issues into your own hands and being judge, jury and executioner. Or at least that is my view, violence can never be part of civil disobedience.

Violence? Shooting a drone amounts to spray painting, or some other act of vandalism not violence.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

I am all for shooting down the drones.The government has no business spying on the people and it should be costly to the government when they do something they shouldn't. This town has a population of nearly 550,so I do not see a shot drone crash landing into someone's home.

Do you really want to bring the wrath of the government down on your head?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Undecided if I would ever take part in such civil disobedience... but if I did... I would do it with this rifle..

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It's a $22K rifle that allows any rank amateur to hit a moving target at 1000 yards... and live stream it to your ipad...

You would have to bag a lot of drones in Deer Tail, CO to pay for that puppy!

 

[Hard Truth]

After thinking about it a bit more, I think a net made of clear nylon fishing line above your property might be the best way to catch a couple of drones.

 

[jamesrage]

What goes up must come down, and that applies for bullets and the drone both. I'm all for protesting against the surveillance state, but not if it risks getting innocent people hurt.

Its a town of nearly 550 people. They could shoot down a hundred drones and I do not think anyone of those would land on someone.

 

[Occam's Razor]

You would have to bag a lot of drones in Deer Tail, CO to pay for that puppy!

Really? How much does a drone cost?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Unlike a helicopter a drone doesn't have to manned and can go places a helicopter can without being noticed.Drones can also be mass produced.



Violence? Shooting a drone amounts to spray painting, or some other act of vandalism not violence.

It depends on where your round(s) and what's left of the drone fall. Spray paint does not penetrate walls or travel for a mile. Drones are still the property of others and thus cannot be turned into game/targets by some local law.

 

[Surtr]

Deer Trail, CO. is considering an ordinance that would grant hunting licenses to shoot unmanned government drones. The FAA threatens criminal and civil liability for the hunters, as though they shot at a manned aircraft.

Deliberate destruction of government property, or righteous civil disobedience? Personally, I think the drones are unreasonable search because no warrant was issued, and unconstitutional laws should be disobeyed until repealed. But this has a public safety issue that sort-of muddys the water.

Article is here

Well there's an idea. Let's issue permits to shoot down federal helicopters while we're at it.

 

[ttwtt78640]

After thinking about it a bit more, I think a net made of clear nylon fishing line above your property might be the best way to catch a couple of drones.

What would you bait them with?