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Extradition of Julian Assange undermines freedom of speech

That’s because they generally are. Enemies of the CIA rarely, if ever, bother to differentiate between the two.
The CIA are the mercenary wing of the military/industrial complex. That's not to say that all of the CIA's agents or operatives are bad. In fact the good ones, like Michael Scheuer for example, are tossed under the bus, and excommunicated from government.
 
Fled never met a traitor he didn't like. If you want to trade barbs I can do that all day. The fact remains that his sentence was recommended by Sec of Defense Casper Weinburger, who knew the full extent of Pollard's treason against the USA. You don't.

Don't excuse my proving you wrong as liking a traitor. I would have been just as content had he swung from the yardarm.

Since when could a single SCOTUS judge decide a case?
 
The CIA are the mercenary wing of the military/industrial complex. That's not to say that all of the CIA's agents or operatives are bad. In fact the good ones, like Michael Scheuer for example, are tossed under the bus, and excommunicated from government.

Oh look, more fairy tales about the “military industrial complex” and its alleged plots. (and by the way, arguing that the US should just ignore ISIS, like Scheuer advocated, is pretty damn laughable).

Likewise, for a guy who was “in the CIA for twenty two years”, his hand waving away of the numerous Iranian state sponsored or assisted terrorist attacks is rather absurd.

Oh, and then there’s his more recent comments....

In July 2018, Scheuer called upon "those millions of well-armed citizens who voted for Trump" to be ready to kill "a long and very precise list" of those who oppose Trump. His list included the entire mainstream media and two former Presidents. "If Trump does not act soon to erase" his opponents, he wrote, "the armed citizenry must step in and eliminate them." Scheuer named those opponents as:

thug-civil-servants like Strzok, Comey, McCabe, Page, and Rosenstein; worshipers of tyranny, like the Democratic members of Congress, the Clintons, the FBI, and the Obamas; apparent traitors like Brennan, Hayden, and Clapper; all of the mainstream media; and the tens of thousands of government-admitted-and-protected, violent, criminal, and illegal immigrants.[46]

Scheuer concluded by looking forward to the "utter joy and satisfaction to be derived from beholding great piles of dead U.S.-citizen tyrants."

The following year, he defended conspiracy theories espoused by the group QAnon[47] and warned Democratic politicians and other QAnon "deniers" that it would give them "plenty to think about as they wait their for their own inevitable and personal hell to arrive."[48]


No wonder you love the guy. He’s a nutjob.
 
Oh look, more fairy tales about the “military industrial complex” and its alleged plots. (and by the way, arguing that the US should just ignore ISIS, like Scheuer advocated, is pretty damn laughable).

Likewise, for a guy who was “in the CIA for twenty two years”, his hand waving away of the numerous Iranian state sponsored or assisted terrorist attacks is rather absurd.

Oh, and then there’s his more recent comments....

In July 2018, Scheuer called upon "those millions of well-armed citizens who voted for Trump" to be ready to kill "a long and very precise list" of those who oppose Trump. His list included the entire mainstream media and two former Presidents. "If Trump does not act soon to erase" his opponents, he wrote, "the armed citizenry must step in and eliminate them." Scheuer named those opponents as:

thug-civil-servants like Strzok, Comey, McCabe, Page, and Rosenstein; worshipers of tyranny, like the Democratic members of Congress, the Clintons, the FBI, and the Obamas; apparent traitors like Brennan, Hayden, and Clapper; all of the mainstream media; and the tens of thousands of government-admitted-and-protected, violent, criminal, and illegal immigrants.[46]

Scheuer concluded by looking forward to the "utter joy and satisfaction to be derived from beholding great piles of dead U.S.-citizen tyrants."

The following year, he defended conspiracy theories espoused by the group QAnon[47] and warned Democratic politicians and other QAnon "deniers" that it would give them "plenty to think about as they wait their for their own inevitable and personal hell to arrive."[48]


No wonder you love the guy. He’s a nutjob.
Scheuer has reacted strongly to being ostracized from American govt and media. There's no place truth-tellers, only boot lickers like Strzok, Comey, McCabe, Page, Rosenstein, Ohr, and......you?
 
Julian Assange happily put informants within the rants of the Taliban at risk and screamed that his “rights were being violated” when the Ecuadorians asked him to clean up after his cat.

He’s a scumbag, pure and simple.
But on the other hand he did really rat**** Killary so there’s a balancing act.
 
Scheuer has reacted strongly to being ostracized from American govt and media. There's no place truth-tellers, only boot lickers like Strzok, Comey, McCabe, Page, Rosenstein, Ohr, and......you?

Leaving aside his association with QANON, which is about as nuts as it gets, your attempt to defend a guy who fantasizes about mass murdering the folks who disagree with him politically is A) pathetic and B) utterly laughable. There is no place for unhinged nutjobs in the government(or SS wannabes who cry about “truth tellers” being ostracized) and no amount of crying from you changes that.
 
Killary killed more innocent people then Pinochet

Hillary Clinton killed more than two thousand people and tortured tens of thousands more? Do you have a remotely credible source for that idiotic claim? No? Didn’t think so.
 
Hillary Clinton killed more than two thousand people and tortured tens of thousands more? Do you have a remotely credible source for that idiotic claim? No? Didn’t think so.
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By the way, I said innocent people. I’m sure there were a few mistakes made during the Pinochet regime. But the vast vast majority of the people listed as victims of the regime were most assuredly not innocent Of communist sympathies
 
Reviewing the CIA's history, it's shocking how quickly they transitioned after the war, into an immoral enterprise that worked on the behalf of shady, if not reprehensible forces.
Indeed, the CIA seems to have shifted from being an information gathering and analyzing organization to a clandestine operations outfit involved in killing so-called Communists and championed for its activities on behalf of military juntas by such individuals as Elliot Abrams. The average American who might have heard of Abrams refuse to recognize him as a war criminal.

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Ronald Reagan's Assistant Secretary of State Elliot Abrams at Iran-Contra hearings.
 
Libya

By the way, I said innocent people. I’m sure there were a few mistakes made during the Pinochet regime. But the vast vast majority of the people listed as victims of the regime were most assuredly not innocent Of communist sympathies

....which was an uprising by the local people against their brutal dictator, who had repeatedly ordered terrorist attacks against the West, supporting terrorist groups across the globe, and which was largely characterized by the lack of serious US intervention.....which is why it ultimate became an even larger mess.

The vast majority of the people “disappeared“ and murdered by the Pinochet regime were guilty of no crime, and therefore, by definition, innocent. Psuedo-fascist thugs like Pinochet were so broad with declaring others to be “communist sympathizers” that the term had absolutely no meaning.
 
Indeed, the CIA seems to have shifted from being an information gathering and analyzing organization to a clandestine operations outfit involved in killing so-called Communists and championed for its activities on behalf of military juntas by such individuals as Elliot Abrams. The average American who might have heard of Abrams refuse to recognize him as a war criminal.

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Ronald Reagan's Assistant Secretary of State Elliot Abrams at Iran-Contra hearings.

Given your defense of Wikileaks releasing the identity of Afghans working against the Taliban, your faux morale outrage is fairly meaningless.
 
Given your defense of Wikileaks releasing the identity of Afghans working against the Taliban, your faux morale outrage is fairly meaningless.
Yeah, picking the side of a foreign occupier can be pretty hazardous. Anytime your country is occupied by another country, and that other country is controlled by the evil of feminism, you can be rest assured that country Is run by ******s and won’t win the war. So any Afghan picking America over the Taliban was always making a terrible mistake. Not the way I want it to be but it’s the truth.
 
Given your defense of Wikileaks releasing the identity of Afghans working against the Taliban, your faux morale outrage is fairly meaningless.
There is no equivalency between Julian Assange exposing CIA war crimes and Elliott Abrams helping death squads in Latin America murder thousands of indigenous children and their parents for being "Communists".
 
Yeah, picking the side of a foreign occupier can be pretty hazardous. Anytime your country is occupied by another country, and that other country is controlled by the evil of feminism, you can be rest assured that country Is run by ******s and won’t win the war. So any Afghan picking America over the Taliban was always making a terrible mistake. Not the way I want it to be but it’s the truth.

Oh look, the Pinochet fanboy is defending the Taliban because he hates “feminism”. How surprising....not.

The real ”******s” are the pseudo-fascist dictators you adore, who stuck to murdering unarmed civilians because tjeu knew they’d fold like wet paper bags when confronted by anyone who could shoot back.
 
There is no equivalency between Julian Assange exposing CIA war crimes and Elliott Abrams helping death squads in Latin America murder thousands of indigenous children and their parents for being "Communists".

What “war crimes” did the people working against the Taliban commit? Julian Assange tried to help the Taliban murder them and their families— and anyone else who was in the area— by releasing their identities. So yes, there is absolutely an equivalency, and you thinking Afghans don’t matter says a lot about you.
 
....which was an uprising by the local people against their brutal dictator, who had repeatedly ordered terrorist attacks against the West, supporting terrorist groups across the globe, and which was largely characterized by the lack of serious US intervention.....which is why it ultimate became an even larger mess.

The vast majority of the people “disappeared“ and murdered by the Pinochet regime were guilty of no crime, and therefore, by definition, innocent. Psuedo-fascist thugs like Pinochet were so broad with declaring others to be “communist sympathizers” that the term had absolutely no meaning.
Supported by the US. Now the wonderful freedom fighters and advocates of democracy are selling blacks into slavery and hundreds of thousands are dead. If only Pinochet ruled Libya then Libya would be at peace.

communists killed hundreds of millions in the 20th century, one of Allende’s biggest supporters was Pablo Neruda, an out and out Stalinist who defended the holodomor. It is literally impossible that Chilean communists wanted merely a social democracy, they were seeking Marxist revolution and Pinochet is a hero for stopping them.

so two thousand people who supported murdering hundreds of millions happened to die? Cry me a river
 
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What “war crimes” did the people working against the Taliban commit? Julian Assange tried to help the Taliban murder them and their families— and anyone else who was in the area— by releasing their identities. So yes, there is absolutely an equivalency, and you thinking Afghans don’t matter says a lot about you.
Americans admire Elliott Abrams' support of death squads in Latin America. They believe every child Communist and his parents deserved to be shot dead in the jungles. Meanwhile Mike Pompeo signs a peace treaty with the Taliban. That is what defines American exceptionalism.
 
Americans admire Elliott Abrams' support of death squads in Latin America. They believe every child Communist and his parents deserved to be shot dead in the jungles. Meanwhile Mike Pompeo signs a peace treaty with the Taliban. That is what defines American exceptionalism.
What’s wrong with protecting your country from communism?
 
Indeed, the CIA seems to have shifted from being an information gathering and analyzing organization to a clandestine operations outfit involved in killing so-called Communists and championed for its activities on behalf of military juntas by such individuals as Elliot Abrams. The average American who might have heard of Abrams refuse to recognize him as a war criminal.

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Ronald Reagan's Assistant Secretary of State Elliot Abrams at Iran-Contra hearings.
To understand the American mindset when it comes to politics, you must know that Americans are nearly all blissfully ignorant of what goes on outside of our country. We will riot and burn down cities for one man who is victimized by the state, and bury our heads in the sand when 2 million iraqis are killed, and 60 million made homeless because of our government. If our government destroys people outside of our borders, both the centrist left and right condone it, if not for ideological reasons, then just out of sheer apathy.
 
Leaving aside his association with QANON, which is about as nuts as it gets, your attempt to defend a guy who fantasizes about mass murdering the folks who disagree with him politically is A) pathetic and B) utterly laughable. There is no place for unhinged nutjobs in the government(or SS wannabes who cry about “truth tellers” being ostracized) and no amount of crying from you changes that.
I can live with that.
 
Supported by the US. Now the wonderful freedom fighters and advocates of democracy are selling blacks into slavery and hundreds of thousands are dead. If only Pinochet ruled Libya then Libya would be at peace.

communists killed hundreds of millions in the 20th century, one of Allende’s biggest supporters was Pablo Neruda, an out and out Stalinist who defended the holodomor. It is literally impossible that Chilean communists wanted merely a social democracy, they were seeking Marxist revolution and Pinochet is a hero for stopping them.

so two thousand people who supported murdering hundreds of millions happened to die? Cry me a river

The US supported people fighting against a brutal dictator responsible for murdering numerous Americans?How scandalous! :rolleyes: It doesn’t change the fact that, again, the uprising saw minimal actual intervention by the US, so trying to use it to whine about Hillary Clinton is pathetic.

Fascists and fascist-adjacent thugs like Pinochet matched them kill for kill in a fraction of the time in power. Pinochet was a psychotic thug who had women routinely sexually abused. He was the definition of a tyrant, and your fawning over him is truly, again, truly pathetic.

Funny, that’s what I think whenever Pinochet fanboys and other fascists get killed.
 
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