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Re: Expressions of an angry Muslim
You're arguing against the voices in your head here - the video doesn't even remotely say that. In fact the fellow explicitly notes that ISIS is a greater threat to, and has killed far more Muslims than they've killed of any other group.
And it only became so powerful in Iraq because...? [Go on, trot out the standard line about Obama pulling out your troops, ignoring the fact that they shouldn't have invaded in the first place and even though he'd actually extended Bush's timeline for withdrawal. Gotta blame those nasty ol' leftists somehow!]
It was made by an American - of course he's going to focus on the actions of America and its allies. It's hardly a subtle point that he made and repeated half a dozen times; we can't condemn in others what we condone in ourselves. It's not an original point either. It's perhaps best known in America as it was said by a Jewish preacher revered by Christians and Muslims alike, "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"
And who do you blame for the Oklahoma City bombing a couple of other posters have raised?
Look, it takes a very... special kind of mind to imagine that the message all life is sacred and all violence is abhorrent must be something which inspires mass-murder. By contrast there are plenty of people, yourself apparently included, who are explicitly advocating violence and killing - as long as it's against people who believe differently than you do. Now I don't share this simplistic notion that any and all mass murders can be pinned on ideology; there'll still be some sociopaths even if everyone in the world promotes compassion and peace. But it seems like kind of a no-brainer to me that if we want less warfare and killing, we should start by not encouraging warfare and killing, either by words or by mass production and sale of arms to troubled regions.
He's an American citizen exercising his right to freedom of speech, criticising some of his country's actions and encouraging peace and the sanctity of all life... but you go ahead and keep advocating his murder. I really don't think I'm the one whose head has been messed with here
You're arguing against the voices in your head here - the video doesn't even remotely say that. In fact the fellow explicitly notes that ISIS is a greater threat to, and has killed far more Muslims than they've killed of any other group.
And it only became so powerful in Iraq because...? [Go on, trot out the standard line about Obama pulling out your troops, ignoring the fact that they shouldn't have invaded in the first place and even though he'd actually extended Bush's timeline for withdrawal. Gotta blame those nasty ol' leftists somehow!]
It was made by an American - of course he's going to focus on the actions of America and its allies. It's hardly a subtle point that he made and repeated half a dozen times; we can't condemn in others what we condone in ourselves. It's not an original point either. It's perhaps best known in America as it was said by a Jewish preacher revered by Christians and Muslims alike, "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"
And who do you blame for the Oklahoma City bombing a couple of other posters have raised?
Look, it takes a very... special kind of mind to imagine that the message all life is sacred and all violence is abhorrent must be something which inspires mass-murder. By contrast there are plenty of people, yourself apparently included, who are explicitly advocating violence and killing - as long as it's against people who believe differently than you do. Now I don't share this simplistic notion that any and all mass murders can be pinned on ideology; there'll still be some sociopaths even if everyone in the world promotes compassion and peace. But it seems like kind of a no-brainer to me that if we want less warfare and killing, we should start by not encouraging warfare and killing, either by words or by mass production and sale of arms to troubled regions.
He's an American citizen exercising his right to freedom of speech, criticising some of his country's actions and encouraging peace and the sanctity of all life... but you go ahead and keep advocating his murder. I really don't think I'm the one whose head has been messed with here
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