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Explosion Kills 35 in Baghdad; Key Terror Leader Arrested (1 Viewer)

Caine said:
Good, Good news story! Excellent work!

Can't keep your mouth shut when it comes to partisanship huh?
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im not sure what you are trying to say?

im merely pointing out a FACT that many on the left claim this war has nothing to do with terrorism......while we are constantly capturing and killing AQ members and their associates.

WTF is partisan about that?

seems to me the partisans are the ones falsley claiming IRaq has nothing to do wtih terror.
 
ProudAmerican said:
im merely pointing out a FACT that many on the left claim this war has nothing to do with terrorism......while we are constantly capturing and killing AQ members and their associates.
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Then you need to get your "facts" straight. The left said the war in Iraq wasn't about terrorism when we toppled the government. We made it into a war dealing with terrorism when we never secured the border and allowed Al-Qaeda to come in droves. Get your so called "facts" straight.
 
ProudAmerican said:
WTF is partisan about that?
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Can I ask you why it was necessary to try to bait the left on this forum by throwing that little "punch line" in there?
 
TheNextEra said:
Then you need to get your "facts" straight. The left said the war in Iraq wasn't about terrorism when we toppled the government. We made it into a war dealing with terrorism when we never secured the border and allowed Al-Qaeda to come in droves. Get your so called "facts" straight.
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Yes, this would be common sense.
But GOP talking points trump common sense.
 
Caine said:
Can I ask you why it was necessary to try to bait the left on this forum by throwing that little "punch line" in there?
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you are confusing "baiting" with stating a fact. I made the comment ONLY BECAUSE I consistently see the left falsley claiming it is not a part of the war on terror.
 
Gotta say PA, your post comes across as nothing but right vs. left partisanship baiting. Your hand IS in the cookie jar and you just got caught. :mrgreen:

There sure seems to be plenty "terrorists" in Iraq now, after we invaded, though. I suppose that's better than fighting them here though. But sucks if you are living in Iraq.

Anybody think the Iragi's might a bit mad at us for that?
 
Caine said:
Yes, this would be common sense.
But GOP talking points trump common sense.
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actually its nonsense.

its always been about terrorism. the fact that the left falsley claims it was ONLY about WMDs doesnt make it so.

also, Im pretty sure I have seen the left continually claim AQ isnt even in Iraq. its all sunis and shias.

that is of course untill someone like me posts a link proving otherwise......then they resort to trying to blame America again because we didnt secure the border.

at least I now have two left leaners admitting AQ is part of the war on terror in Iraq.

hell, its a start anyway.
 
Captain America said:
Gotta say PA, your post comes across as nothing but right vs. left partisanship baiting. Your hand IS in the cookie jar and you just got caught. :mrgreen:

There sure seems to be plenty "terrorists" in Iraq now, after we invaded, though. I suppose that's better than fighting them here though. But sucks if you are living in Iraq.

Anybody think the Iragi's might a bit mad at us for that?
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well, how it comes across is one thing, and how I meant it is another.

we ARE DEALING WITH AQ IN IRAQ. we ARE CAPTURING AND KILLING THEM THERE.

and I still dont get the whole argument of how they werent there before we were. there is absolutely no way whatsoever to prove that assertion.

again, IMO the partisans on this issue are the ones that falsley claim the war was ONLY about WMDs.
 
ProudAmerican said:
actually its nonsense.

its always been about terrorism. the fact that the left falsley claims it was ONLY about WMDs doesnt make it so.

also, Im pretty sure I have seen the left continually claim AQ isnt even in Iraq. its all sunis and shias.

that is of course untill someone like me posts a link proving otherwise......then they resort to trying to blame America again because we didnt secure the border.

at least I now have two left leaners admitting AQ is part of the war on terror in Iraq.

hell, its a start anyway.
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No. If it were about terrorists in Iraq before the war... I think I would have know about it while we were dropping mortars on Fedayeen *** in As Samawa in southern Iraq. (check out the book "Boots on the Ground" for more info on my unit's mission).
Of course, you could call those types terrorists now. But then they were not identified as such, so im not giving that one to you.
 
When I try to twist and spin a scenerio to validate the Iraqi war as a fight against terrorists, this is the best I can come up with.

1. Terrorists must be eliminated. True that. Do we wait for them to come here or go after them? Go after them. Where? Afghanastan? Good. The Taliban need a butt-kickin' anyways and they side with Bin Laden. Mission Accompished let's get some more. Where? Iraq. Why Iraq? Call Karl Rove. He will convince us all why it has to be Iraq. If we take over Iraq, we will be more centralized and easy to reach for the rest of the radical terrorists to come to us. We will attract them like sugar attracts bees. Then we will kill them.

That's the best I can come up with. Sounds like a plan.

Although it has nothing to do with the reasons we were given. But it does sound way cool, don't it? (Unless you're Iraqi. Then my plan kinda sucks.:3oops: )
 
ProudAmerican said:
again, IMO the partisans on this issue are the ones that falsley claim the war was ONLY about WMDs.
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How is that being partisan?
What political side does that assertion go with?
How come Ive seen so many Conservatives say the war was about WMD, prior to finding that there was no WMD, so everyone has to make up new **** to say the war was about.

Reguardless. I don't give a **** about what the war was started for anymore. It was wrongly started, no ties between AQ and Iraq in league of actual agreements to work together, no WMD has been found. The only thing we can go off of is that, "Saddam was a bad man and he gassed his own people, so long ago that the soldiers who are fighting in this war weren't even alive then". Although I find Saddam's tyranical rule over his people to be bad enough, when people whine about him gassing his people nearly 20 years ago, I think that is ridiculous. It makes them appear weak as if they are "reaching" for anything to make a point. Stick with Saddam was a hate-filled tyrant, and his people deserved to be free. I can live with that. All the value placed on that other crap makes the lives of soldiers seem wasted on petty bullshit.

Anyways, Yeah, This *breaking news* article is good news, the more dumbass terrorists we stop/capture the better.

Just stop the partisan bullshit already.
 
Caine said:
How is that being partisan?
What political side does that assertion go with?
How come Ive seen so many Conservatives say the war was about WMD, prior to finding that there was no WMD, so everyone has to make up new **** to say the war was about.

Reguardless. I don't give a **** about what the war was started for anymore. It was wrongly started, no ties between AQ and Iraq in league of actual agreements to work together, no WMD has been found. The only thing we can go off of is that, "Saddam was a bad man and he gassed his own people, so long ago that the soldiers who are fighting in this war weren't even alive then". Although I find Saddam's tyranical rule over his people to be bad enough, when people whine about him gassing his people nearly 20 years ago, I think that is ridiculous. It makes them appear weak as if they are "reaching" for anything to make a point. Stick with Saddam was a hate-filled tyrant, and his people deserved to be free. I can live with that. All the value placed on that other crap makes the lives of soldiers seem wasted on petty bullshit.

Anyways, Yeah, This *breaking news* article is good news, the more dumbass terrorists we stop/capture the better.

Just stop the partisan bullshit already.
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How do we know that? According to our own mediawhores, the Al Qaeda number 2 has been caught close to a thousand times.
 
danarhea said:
How do we know that? According to our own mediawhores, the Al Qaeda number 2 has been caught close to a thousand times.
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LOL... That is true.....

How many #2 guys can there be?
 
Caine said:
LOL... That is true.....

How many #2 guys can there be?
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Well, I my dad's first son but I always got treated like number two. :rofl
 
Caine said:
LOL... That is true.....

How many #2 guys can there be?
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You know I can picture it now, at the Al-Qaeda meetings:

Leader: Please give a warm regards to Akbar who is our new Number 2.

Akbar: OH ALLAH NO, PLEASE NOT ME ALLAH, PLEASE NOT ME! ! ! !

:rofl
 
TheNextEra said:
You know I can picture it now, at the Al-Qaeda meetings:

Leader: Please give a warm regards to Akbar who is our new Number 2.

Akbar: OH ALLAH NO, PLEASE NOT ME ALLAH, PLEASE NOT ME! ! ! !

:rofl
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Bwuahahaha...

I guess if they have someone they disagree with within the ranks, they can always promote him to #2.
 
Anyways, Yeah, This *breaking news* article is good news, the more dumbass terrorists we stop/capture the better.

Just stop the partisan bullshit already.
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Im one of the few people in this forum that has any credibility on the issue of Iraq. Not many here can say they would have supported this war no matter who was in charge.

many here would be silent if Bill Clinton were in charge.

you may want to mention to those folks to stop the partisan bullshit every now and then.

if you want to know who they are, well, look for any liberals that have NOT posted in this thread. good news isnt something the like to hear when it comes to Iraq.
 
ProudAmerican said:
many here would be silent if Bill Clinton were in charge.

you may want to mention to those folks to stop the partisan bullshit every now and then.
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What the? This is the most LAAAAAME way to try to pass something else off on Clinton. Now you are passing the blame for your radical partisanship off on Bill Clinton. Sorry, Clinton is NOT in charge, and therefore you can't say... well tell the people who would be partisan if clinton were in charge to stop.... that sounds like a child talking.

if you want to know who they are, well, look for any liberals that have NOT posted in this thread. good news isnt something the like to hear when it comes to Iraq.
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Yes, like this thread is advertised on the main page when they come to debatepolitics.com and like everyone has been here and seen it.

There so many threads on this forum. Some of them I probably don't participate in. And some of them may have "good news" in them, but I have yet to see them and probably never will.

:roll:

Once again, nice try attempting to blame Clinton for you starting a thread and trying to turn it into a partisan bickering match by throwing a cheap generalization of democrats out there.
 
ProudAmerican said:
also, Im pretty sure I have seen the left continually claim AQ isnt even in Iraq. its all sunis and shias.
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Then you would pretty much be dead wrong, again!

As many Radical Righties in this community do you make an unsubstantiated and untruthful claim and expect intelligent people to believe you? :rofl

It's posters like you that twist the truth and claim that a large minority or even a majority of the Iraq War is being fought by AQ and is caused by AQ and that is, like always, bullshit...

Want some truth? Bush's God awful war has increased the threat of terrorism since we invaded Iraq, it's done nothing to reduce the threat, and that is pure, clean FACT. Just read this thread:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...es-say-iraq-war-worsens-terrorism-threat.html
 
Caine said:
LOL... That is true.....

How many #2 guys can there be?
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Ever watch the old British TV series "The Prisoner"? Every week there was a new #2 for the former "Danger Man" to outwit. Very cool show from 1967...
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Caine also brings some credibility to the table.









But that bastard killed Kenny!!!! :rofl
 
Captain America said:
Caine also brings some credibility to the table.
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Nuh Uh!
Cause im an evil liberal democrat, so everything I say about my service/etc is a big lie! Remember??
 
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