Explainer: How could Russia's Putin be prosecuted

[Lafayette]

From here: Explainer: How could Russia's Putin be prosecuted for war crimes in Ukraine?

Excerpt:

The International Criminal Court in The Hague defines war crimes as "grave breaches" of the post-World War Two Geneva Conventions, agreements which lay out the international humanitarian laws to be followed in war time. Breaches include deliberately targeting civilians and attacking legitimate military targets where civilian casualties would be “excessive,” legal experts said.

Ukraine and its Western allies accuse Russian forces of targeting civilians indiscriminately. Russia, which describes its invasion of on Ukraine as a "special operation," denies targeting civilians and says its goal is to "demilitarize and denazify" Ukraine, claims Kyiv and the West say are baseless.

The USSR ratified the Geneva Convention in 1954. Russia in 2019 revoked its recognition of one of the protocols, but remains a signatory to the rest of the agreements. The ICC, formed in 2002, is distinct from the International Court of Justice, a United Nations body that hears disputes between states.

The International Criminal Court's chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, said this month he had opened an investigation into possible war crimes in Ukraine.

 

[TheParser]

The United States regularly brings foreign leaders here for trial on drug charges.

An ex-president of a Central American country is currently due to be put on trial here.

So why can't the United States bring that war criminal here to stand trial for genocide?

(There are certainly some Russian officials who would help apprehend him for a reasonable reward.)

 

[Tigerace117]

The United States regularly brings foreign leaders here for trial on drug charges.

An ex-president of a Central American country is currently due to be put on trial here.

So why can't the United States bring that war criminal here to stand trial for genocide?

(There are certainly some Russian officials who would help apprehend him for a reasonable reward.)

Because A) he didn’t commit genocide and B) the odds of Russia handing him over are somewhere between “laughably slim” and “none”.

Same reason all the hoopla over Bush being accused of war crimes never amounted to anything.

 

[TheParser]

Because A) he didn’t commit genocide and B) the odds of Russia handing him over are somewhere between “laughably slim” and “none”.

Some people respectfully disagree with your opinion. (a) Killing a pregnant mother and her baby / killing a man standing in line for bread / etc. Some call that "genocide."

(b) Some Russians would hand him over if they received the proper "incentive."

 

[Hamish Howl]

Putin will be assassinated by his buddies soon. There will be no war crimes trials.

 

[Tigerace117]

Some people respectfully disagree with your opinion. (a) Killing a pregnant mother and her baby / killing a man standing in line for bread / etc. Some call that "genocide."

(b) Some Russians would hand him over if they received the proper "incentive."

Some people therefore don’t know what genocide is. By that definition we would have committed “genocide” in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

And what “incentives” do you fantasize those would be?

 

[TheParser]

And what “incentives” do you fantasize those would be?

American dollars and a Green Card.

 

[Tigerace117]

American dollars and a Green Card.

If throwing money at an issue was enough to overthrow a world leader Fidel Castro would have been toppled decades ago. Not to mention, of course, that it’s rather hard to find anyone willing to run the risk of kidnapping a world leader and smuggling him over a border(not to mention that person actually being able to succeed).

The arrogance in assuming that all one would need to orchestrate a coup is offer someone a green card is truly a sight to behold.

 

[joluoto]

For Putin to being handed over to the Hague it would require him losing power, and even then the new government might choose not to in case they instead want him to stand trial for something in Russia to shore up their domestic support, or if they are as antagonistic to the West as he is they just wouldn't give him up.

 

[RetiredUSN]

With a bullet.