Experts warn U.S. covid-19 deaths could more than double by year’s end

[JacksinPA]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...anner-low_410000deaths-10a:homepage/story-ans

The global death toll from the coronavirus pandemic could triple by year’s end, with an additional 1.9 million deaths, while a fall wave of infections could drive fatalities in the United States to 410,000, according to a new forecast from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

The estimate reinforces warnings by many experts that cooler, drier weather and increased time spent indoors could boost viral transmission in the Northern Hemisphere surge this fall and winter — something typically seen with other respiratory viruses.

The institute’s forecasts were influential earlier in the pandemic in guiding policies developed by the White House coronavirus task force, but they have been criticized by some experts as projecting further into the future than can be done reliably.
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I hope they don't close the liquor stores again.

 

[iguanaman]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...anner-low_410000deaths-10a:homepage/story-ans

The global death toll from the coronavirus pandemic could triple by year’s end, with an additional 1.9 million deaths, while a fall wave of infections could drive fatalities in the United States to 410,000, according to a new forecast from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

The estimate reinforces warnings by many experts that cooler, drier weather and increased time spent indoors could boost viral transmission in the Northern Hemisphere surge this fall and winter — something typically seen with other respiratory viruses.

The institute’s forecasts were influential earlier in the pandemic in guiding policies developed by the White House coronavirus task force, but they have been criticized by some experts as projecting further into the future than can be done reliably.
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I hope they don't close the liquor stores again.

And under Trump we will surely lead the way in rising deaths. He has decided that there is nothing that can be done about the pandemic and thinks ignoring it will be best for him politically.

Trump’s New Favorite COVID Adviser Thinks “Herd Immunity” Is a Good Idea | Vanity Fair

 

[Paradoxical]

And under Trump we will surely lead the way in rising deaths. He has decided that there is nothing that can be done about the pandemic and thinks ignoring it will be best for him politically.

Trump’s New Favorite COVID Adviser Thinks “Herd Immunity” Is a Good Idea | Vanity Fair

Herd immunity achieved in New York, Conn., Mass, and New Jersey as well as Sweden and Manaus.

In short, no more old codgers with 2 or more serious conditions left to kill

You do know that's mainly who the virus kills, right?

 

[EnigmaO01]

And under Trump we will surely lead the way in rising deaths. He has decided that there is nothing that can be done about the pandemic and thinks ignoring it will be best for him politically.

Trump’s New Favorite COVID Adviser Thinks “Herd Immunity” Is a Good Idea | Vanity Fair

Well he is rushing a vaccine for political reasons.

 

[Thom Paine]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...anner-low_410000deaths-10a:homepage/story-ans

The global death toll from the coronavirus pandemic could triple by year’s end, with an additional 1.9 million deaths, while a fall wave of infections could drive fatalities in the United States to 410,000, according to a new forecast from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

The estimate reinforces warnings by many experts that cooler, drier weather and increased time spent indoors could boost viral transmission in the Northern Hemisphere surge this fall and winter — something typically seen with other respiratory viruses.

The institute’s forecasts were influential earlier in the pandemic in guiding policies developed by the White House coronavirus task force, but they have been criticized by some experts as projecting further into the future than can be done reliably.
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I hope they don't close the liquor stores again.

I'm getting numb to all the cv speculation, moaning, and whimpering.
But ! Your last sentence is now my biggest concern.

 

[Guyzilla]

Herd immunity achieved in New York, Conn., Mass, and New Jersey as well as Sweden and Manaus.

In short, no more old codgers with 2 or more serious conditions left to kill

You do know that's mainly who the virus kills, right?

wHAT KIND OF ? ARE YOU? hERD IMMUNITY REQUIRES at least 65 % TO WORK at all. 85% starts to be effective. We are NOWHERE near that, and you want to kill people. So you can get a frosty at will.

 

[iguanaman]

Well he is rushing a vaccine for political reasons.

A vaccine released without proper testing will not help either and could prove disastrous. Not to mention that a effective vaccine is just the beginning of the end.

We are almost five months into the pandemic and probably another five from a safe and effective vaccine—assuming the clinical trials work out perfectly. “Even when a vaccine is introduced,” says Jesse Goodman, the former chief scientist at the Food and Drug Administration, “I think we will have several months of significant infection or at least risk of infection to look forward to.”

All of this means that we may have to endure more months under the threat of the coronavirus than we have already survived. Without the measures that have beat back the virus in much of Europe and Asia, there will continue to be more outbreaks, more school closings, more loneliness, more deaths ahead. A vaccine, when it is available, will mark only the beginning of a long, slow ramp down. And how long that ramp down takes will depend on the efficacy of a vaccine, the success in delivering hundreds of millions of doses, and the willingness of people to get it at all. It is awful to contemplate the suffering still ahead. It is easier to think about the promise of a vaccine.

A COVID-19 Vaccine Reality Check - The Atlantic

 

[Paradoxical]

wHAT KIND OF ? ARE YOU? hERD IMMUNITY REQUIRES at least 65 % TO WORK at all. 85% starts to be effective. We are NOWHERE near that, and you want to kill people. So you can get a frosty at will.

That has been debunked. Study up. Read alternative sources. Do not rely on the Goebbelsian news.

 

[iguanaman]

wHAT KIND OF ? ARE YOU? hERD IMMUNITY REQUIRES at least 65 % TO WORK at all. 85% starts to be effective. We are NOWHERE near that, and you want to kill people. So you can get a frosty at will.

Just ignore him. He is part of the Trump Death cult and saving lives means nothing to him. He thinks everyone who dies were on their last legs anyway and we did them a favor.

 

[iguanaman]

That has been debunked. Study up. Read alternative sources. Do not rely on the Goebbelsian news.

Everything you say is wrong and herd immunity is just one of the fallacies you post. You do not even know that Goebbels was a Nazi and like all Nazi's hated all forms of socialism with a passion. Here is a part of one of his most famous papers he wrote on the subject.

As far as we ourselves are concerned, we have completely overcome this menace. Indeed perhaps, outside of his work in Germany, the greatest service which our Führer has rendered the world is that here in Germany he has set up a barrier against world Bolshevism against which the waves of this vile Asiatic-Jewish flood break in vain. He has taught us not only to recognise Bolshevism as the world’s greatest enemy but also to meet it face to face and crush it. Instead of this teaching he has supplied a new and better and nobler ideal for the liberation of a whole nation. In the Sign of this Idea we have fought our battles and brought our banners to victory. This ideal has enabled us to free Germany from the menace of Bolshevism and banish it once and for all from the German nation. Today we know how to cope with these insidious forces.

The nation has been rendered immune against the poison of the red anarchy. It has repudiated the false and hollow catch-words of the communistic world propaganda. Seriously and industriously and with patience and discipline it has given itself to the solution of problems which arise out of its own destiny. History will one day give due credit to the Führer for having saved Germany from the most acute and deadly peril by overthrowing Bolshevism and thereby saving the whole civilisation of the West from the abyss that yawned before it.

Goebbels on Communism with the Mask Off

 

[RetiredUSN]

A vaccine released without proper testing will not help either and could prove disastrous. Not to mention that a effective vaccine is just the beginning of the end.



A COVID-19 Vaccine Reality Check - The Atlantic

A working vaccine either works or not.

Make up your minds.

 

[Paradoxical]

Everything you say is wrong and herd immunity is just one of the fallacies you post. You do not even know that Goebbels was a Nazi and like all Nazi's hated all forms of socialism with a passion. Here is a part of one of his most famous papers he wrote on the subject.



Goebbels on Communism with the Mask Off

You are just as wrong on Joseph Goebbels as you are on everything else. He HATED capitalism and espoused socialism.

 

[iguanaman]

You are just as wrong on Joseph Goebbels as you are on everything else. He HATED capitalism and espoused socialism.

So you cannot read either?

 

[iguanaman]

A working vaccine either works or not.

Make up your minds.

Do you even know why they test vaccines for 6 months at least?

 

[RetiredUSN]

Do you even know why they test vaccines for 6 months at least?

A vaccine either works or it doesn't.

 

[Paradoxical]

Re: Experts warn U.S. covid-19 deaths could more than double by year’s end

So you cannot read either?

Left wing articles you mean?

Here is something other than a Goebbelsian piece.

Hitler and the socialist dream | The Independent

 

[iguanaman]

Re: Experts warn U.S. covid-19 deaths could more than double by year’s end

Left wing articles you mean?

Here is something other than a Goebbelsian piece.

Hitler and the socialist dream | The Independent

I quoted you a speech that Goebbels wrote demonizing all marxist and socialist movements. Right wing opinion pieces are total garbage.

 

[iguanaman]

A vaccine either works or it doesn't.

How will they know it works without sufficient testing? Do think giving out a vaccine that does not work is a good idea?

 

[pamak]

Herd immunity achieved in New York, Conn., Mass, and New Jersey as well as Sweden and Manaus.

In short, no more old codgers with 2 or more serious conditions left to kill

You do know that's mainly who the virus kills, right?

No, it was not achieved...

Even the Swedes admit that they are wayyyyyyyy below the required number in their most densely populated capital "Stockholm to achieve her immunity

Coronavirus antibody levels same in Stockholm and London, study shows - Business Insider

A new study finds Stockholm had the same coronavirus infection rate as London, casting yet more doubt on the herd immunity theory

It found that the two capital cities had the same infection rate — 17% — earlier in the summer.

Sweden's state epidemiologist predicted that 40% of Stockholm would have antibodies by May.


For herd immunity, experts mention about a fate of infection over 60%

 

[pamak]

That has been debunked. Study up. Read alternative sources. Do not rely on the Goebbelsian news.

Qanon are also alternative sources... How many of those who write such nonsense have medical degree?

Notice that the Swedes themselves admit that they are not even close to any percentage that implies her immunity.

Stockholm Won't Reach Herd Immunity In May, Sweden's Chief Epidemiologist Says : NPR

Stockholm Won't Reach Herd Immunity In May, Sweden's Chief Epidemiologist Says

Noe feel free to show me the statement by the Swedish scientists that they achieved her immunity in June or July or August....

 

[Casca XV]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...anner-low_410000deaths-10a:homepage/story-ans

The global death toll from the coronavirus pandemic could triple by year’s end, with an additional 1.9 million deaths, while a fall wave of infections could drive fatalities in the United States to 410,000, according to a new forecast from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

The estimate reinforces warnings by many experts that cooler, drier weather and increased time spent indoors could boost viral transmission in the Northern Hemisphere surge this fall and winter — something typically seen with other respiratory viruses.

The institute’s forecasts were influential earlier in the pandemic in guiding policies developed by the White House coronavirus task force, but they have been criticized by some experts as projecting further into the future than can be done reliably.
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I hope they don't close the liquor stores again.

This is being put out as joke right?

 

[Casca XV]

And under Trump we will surely lead the way in rising deaths. He has decided that there is nothing that can be done about the pandemic and thinks ignoring it will be best for him politically.

Trump’s New Favorite COVID Adviser Thinks “Herd Immunity” Is a Good Idea | Vanity Fair

Repeating lies doesn't make them true.

 

[Guyzilla]

A working vaccine either works or not.

Make up your minds.

You really think you should give advice with that brain?

 

[Paradoxical]

Re: Experts warn U.S. covid-19 deaths could more than double by year’s end

I quoted you a speech that Goebbels wrote demonizing all marxist and socialist movements. Right wing opinion pieces are total garbage.

Would you like to see an article where Goebbels denounces capitalism?

Left wing opinion pieces are total garbage.

 

[Paradoxical]

No, it was not achieved...

Even the Swedes admit that they are wayyyyyyyy below the required number in their most densely populated capital "Stockholm to achieve her immunity

Coronavirus antibody levels same in Stockholm and London, study shows - Business Insider

A new study finds Stockholm had the same coronavirus infection rate as London, casting yet more doubt on the herd immunity theory

It found that the two capital cities had the same infection rate — 17% — earlier in the summer.

Sweden's state epidemiologist predicted that 40% of Stockholm would have antibodies by May.


For herd immunity, experts mention about a fate of infection over 60%

I don't give a rats ass what some expert says. I ONLY care about math and logic. When people aren't dying, THAT is when herd immunity is reached no matter what some expert blabbers about.