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Excellent Political Quiz

Loxd4 said:
I wounder why everone hate a marxist ideals???

For one, many of marx's ideals he simple stole or borrowed from other places. Classic Economists, like Adam Smith (among others) espoused the idea of "labor theory of value." An INCORRECT idea which marx used without ever examining it's validity to any degree.

Also, mini-state and anti-state ideas have been around far long before Marx, he borrowed those too, and imagined they were his own.

I despise marx, because many of his actual ideas were wrong, and those ideas that were right, weren't his, and yet, people attribute them to him, incorrectly, in my opinion.
 
libertarian_knight said:
For one, many of marx's ideals he simple stole or borrowed from other places. Classic Economists, like Adam Smith (among others) espoused the idea of "labor theory of value." An INCORRECT idea which marx used without ever examining it's validity to any degree.

Also, mini-state and anti-state ideas have been around far long before Marx, he borrowed those too, and imagined they were his own.

I despise marx, because many of his actual ideas were wrong, and those ideas that were right, weren't his, and yet, people attribute them to him, incorrectly, in my opinion.

Simply put Marx was a hack and Locke would have kicked his ass in a debate.
 
Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you an individually-orientated, materialist, small-government, nationalist, free-trade, kind of person, who doesn't sound like a Marxist.

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of libertarian. Your natural home at PoliticsForum would be the Liberalism area.

Below, on this page, is an analysis of the (up to) eight categories that you were sorted into above, and an explanation of how you scored on the eight scales used to determine these categorisations.

The pages following this one show the breakdown of results for all participants on each question. You can freely navigate through the pages by using the hyperlinks in the top right of each page.




Individual vs Social
"The individualist believes that society works best through a focus on individual rights, freedoms, actions and responsibilities. The social thinker believes that the ideal state should focus more upon collective action and take a social approach to rights and responsibilities."


Individual Social

You scored 38 out of 100 on a scale of Individual vs Social. This means that politically you are less likely to value the need for group actions and group benefit over individual enterprise and benefit.

16% of test takers were more individual than you.
83% of test takers were more social than you.



Theist vs Materialist
"The materialist believes that all objective criteria to influence politics can be reasonably derived without recourse to the divine or the spiritual. The theist believes that spiritual beliefs are important and should influence government policy."


Theist Materialist

You scored 76 out of 100 on a scale of Theist vs Materialist. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that religion and spirituality are superstitions that should not inform political debate.

75% of test takers were more theist than you.
23% of test takers were more materialist than you.




Big Government vs Small Government
"The big government advocate believes that governments should be responsible for regulating a wide array of social practices, even what might be considered personal decisions such as abortion, euthanasia, children's education and births. A small government advocate thinks that, wherever possible, these issues should be up to individuals or companies to direct."


Big Gov Small Gov

You scored 64 out of 100 on a scale of Big Government vs Small Government. This means that politically you are more likely to believe that government should keep out of legislating social policies, leaving such decisions to individuals.

65% of test takers were more big government than you.
33% of test takers were more small government than you.



Nationalist vs Internationalist
"The nationalist believes in the sovereign rule of nation states, particularly his or her own. The internationalist believes that there should be more important international fora and perhaps, ultimately, international government."


National International

You scored 37 out of 100 on a scale of Nationalist vs Internationalist. This means that politically you are less likely to favour international bodies over national ones.

14% of test takers were more nationalist than you.
86% of test takers were more internationalist than you.



Protectionist vs Free Trader
"The protectionist believes in barriers against free trade most probably due to a belief that this is in his or her country's interests. The free trader rejects such notions, believing that the system ultimately suffers when tariffs, subsidies and other obstacles to free trade persist."


Protection Free-Trade

You scored 64 out of 100 on a scale of Protectionist vs Free Trader. This means that politically you are more likely to favour free trade over protectionist policies.

65% of test takers were more protectionist than you.
33% of test takers were more pro free trade than you.



Absolutist vs Non-Absolutist
"The absolutist believes that either a divine presence or scientific laws provide absolute truths about the world, which can and should be applied in practise. The non-absolutist may be either a relativist, or simply someone who is more pragmatic."


Absolute Non-Absolute

You scored 48 out of 100 on a scale of Absolutist vs Non Absolutist. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that there is an absolute truth that may guide your ideological beliefs.

19% of test takers were more absolutist than you.
78% of test takers were more non-absolutist than you.



Controlled Market vs Liberal Market
"Both of these categories assume a capitalist system. Assuming this system, the controlled market believer holds that government should intervene in regulating a nation's economy: wage laws, environmental standards, privatised industries and workplace relations policy. A liberal market thinker believes that such regulation is unnecessary and often counter-productive."


Controlled Liberal

You scored 55 out of 100 on a scale of Controlled Market vs Liberal Market. This means that politically you are neither more nor less likely to believe that there is need for government regulation of industry.

76% of test takers were more controlled market thinkers than you.
23% of test takers were more liberal market thinkers than you.



Marxist vs Non-Marxist
"This scale purports to show to what extent you follow the thought and teachings of Marx. Marxists tend to be scientific, materialist and revolutionary, believe in class struggle and the laws of historical and dialectic materialism."


Marxist Non-Marxist

You scored 62 out of 100 on a scale of Marxist vs Non-Marxist. This means that politically you are less likely to follow the philosophies of Marx.

82% of test takers were more Marxist than you.
16% of test takers were more non-Marxist than you.
 
I'm pretty much right down the middle..."Borderline Social Liberal." Only because the republicans have made such a mess of things lately. LOL

Ind vs Soc 54

Theist vs Mat 55

BigGov/SmGov 69

Nat vs inter 58

Pro vs Free 47

Abso vs Non 57

Cont vs Lib 33

Marx vs Non 43
 
Individual vs Social scored 41 out of 100

Theist vs Materialist scored 100 out of 100

Big Government vs Small Government scored 82 out of 100

Nationalist vs Internationalist scored 57 out of 100

Protectionist vs Free Trader scored 59 out of 100

Absolutist vs Non-Absolutist scored 58 out of 100

Controlled Market vs Liberal Market scored 91 out of 100

Marxist vs Non-Marxist scored 71 out of 100
 
Interesting:

Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a materialist, internationalist, free-trade, non-absolutist, controlled-market kind of person

These characteristics would put you in the overall category of borderline internationalist.



56 on Individual vs Social.
63 on Theist vs Materialist.
53 on Big Government vs Small Government. This
80 on Nationalist vs Internationalist.
61 on Protectionist vs Free Trader.
71 on Absolutist vs Non Absolutist.
19 on Controlled Market vs Liberal Market.
 
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Boo to you steen :p

Why do people still imagine, after about 4000 years of human history to the contrary, that controlled markets benefit people?
 
libertarian_knight said:
Boo to you steen :p

Why do people still imagine, after about 4000 years of human history to the contrary, that controlled markets benefit people?

Controlled markets solidify the nations industry. Without tariffs, factories will be moved to where more of a profit can be made. Thus a nation will lose jobs and industry.
 
In this quiz, "controlled market" is referring to government control over business conduct, not about trade. It refers to pollution control, wage regulation, truth in advertisement etc.
 
Che said:
Controlled markets solidify the nations industry. Without tariffs, factories will be moved to where more of a profit can be made. Thus a nation will lose jobs and industry.

First, see steen's post above about the difference.
Second so what? Rich jobs will go to poor countries. Communists are supposed to like that.

Not that it matters much (nor is it on topic), but since you pertinaciously choose to use such a large imagine in your signature. Care to explain what the Ozone-Oxygen cycle is, how it works, and how it's interfered with, in your own words of course.
 
libertarian_knight said:
First, see steen's post above about the difference.
Second so what? Rich jobs will go to poor countries. Communists are supposed to like that.

Not that it matters much (nor is it on topic), but since you pertinaciously choose to use such a large imagine in your signature. Care to explain what the Ozone-Oxygen cycle is, how it works, and how it's interfered with, in your own words of course.

Right, yeah, my bad I meant protectionism :doh . Controlled Market helps in a simialer fashion but that's for another time.

Second, I'm an American. I want to help America before India and Pakistan.

Yep sorry about that. I thought It would appear smaller but it didn't. I'm gonna change it soon.
:doh

I'm no sciencetist but I'm guessing it's the process in which UV sun rays turn oxygen atoms into ozone?

I'm guessing you know more about then me so could you please explain why the process isn't working correctly anymore.
 
alphieb said:
stsburns said:
Make up your mind, just kidding. I think its normal to waiver a little in your beliefs from time to time. Nothing is black and white when it comes to politics.
I find the news as "The New 'Reality TV' Drama," it is both commedy and somewhat informative. Lol. :mrgreen:
 
Che said:
Controlled markets solidify the nations industry. Without tariffs, factories will be moved to where more of a profit can be made. Thus a nation will lose jobs and industry.
yes, but do you believe that the people of one nation are adherently better than those of another nation, and thus more worthy of having jobs?
And it solidifies industry to the point where the government will be left dragging dead companies around and spending billions in the process (United Airlines anyone?) If that place isn't the most profitable place to be at the time, then the business shouldn't be there, it's a waste of resources for everyone, because people who are less cost efficient in one particular market are wasting their time in that market as opposed to finding something that they're better at, and in the mean time the more cost effective people are left just sitting around with their thumbs up their asses, and in the mean time we pay more for everything, while the business isn't making enough money to stay afloat, and thus it's the duty of the protectionist government to prop up this failing business, which has to be paid for by our tax dollars, which means we're paying for this again, and in the end EVERYONE loses.
 
galenrox said:
yes, but do you believe that the people of one nation are adherently better than those of another nation, and thus more worthy of having jobs?
And it solidifies industry to the point where the government will be left dragging dead companies around and spending billions in the process (United Airlines anyone?) If that place isn't the most profitable place to be at the time, then the business shouldn't be there, it's a waste of resources for everyone, because people who are less cost efficient in one particular market are wasting their time in that market as opposed to finding something that they're better at, and in the mean time the more cost effective people are left just sitting around with their thumbs up their asses, and in the mean time we pay more for everything, while the business isn't making enough money to stay afloat, and thus it's the duty of the protectionist government to prop up this failing business, which has to be paid for by our tax dollars, which means we're paying for this again, and in the end EVERYONE loses.

Ok let's say we move Company A to China where it is more cost efficient. Not only are we providing jobs to a oppresive stalinist regime, but we are moving jobs that Americans are basing there lives on just so that we can pay people less. If enough companies continue to move ther factories to China, Pakistan, and India, then Americans will have less and less jobs to work at.
 
stsburns said:
Talk about "Living on the Edge!" :mrgreen:

lol yeah. I took it once before. It was the media question that put me on the centerist line
 
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