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Ex-Roger Stone Aide Caught On Tape Making Shady Plea To Trump Fans Before Jan. 6

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A week before the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, a former aide to Republican political consultant Roger Stone joined a conference call with supporters of then-President Donald Trump and urged them to “descend on the Capitol” to pressure lawmakers not to certify the 2020 election, The New York Times reported Tuesday.

Jason Sullivan, a right-wing communications specialist and QAnon promoter, reportedly told listeners on a Dec. 30, 2020, call that the 2020 election had been stolen and directed them to go to Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6 to make members of Congress “sweat” when they convened to finalize the electoral count.

“If we make the people inside that building sweat, and they understand that they may not be able to walk in the streets any longer if they do the wrong thing, then maybe they’ll do the right thing,” he said, according to the Times, which obtained a recording of the call.

While claiming he was “not inciting violence or any kind of riots,” Sullivan also told listeners that Trump would impose a form of martial law that day and would not be leaving office.

“[Joe] Biden will never be in that White House,” he reportedly said on the call. “That’s my promise to each and every one of you.”

Sounds like this guy should be expecting a visit from the FBI. And I always said that Roger Stone was the key to the connection between Trump and the rioters. It's no wonder why Stone told his bodyguards to get him the hell out of DC about two hours into the insurrection.
 

A week before the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, a former aide to Republican political consultant Roger Stone joined a conference call with supporters of then-President Donald Trump and urged them to “descend on the Capitol” to pressure lawmakers not to certify the 2020 election, The New York Times reported Tuesday.

Jason Sullivan, a right-wing communications specialist and QAnon promoter, reportedly told listeners on a Dec. 30, 2020, call that the 2020 election had been stolen and directed them to go to Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6 to make members of Congress “sweat” when they convened to finalize the electoral count.

“If we make the people inside that building sweat, and they understand that they may not be able to walk in the streets any longer if they do the wrong thing, then maybe they’ll do the right thing,” he said, according to the Times, which obtained a recording of the call.

While claiming he was “not inciting violence or any kind of riots,” Sullivan also told listeners that Trump would impose a form of martial law that day and would not be leaving office.

“[Joe] Biden will never be in that White House,” he reportedly said on the call. “That’s my promise to each and every one of you.”

Sounds like this guy should be expecting a visit from the FBI. And I always said that Roger Stone was the key to the connection between Trump and the rioters. It's no wonder why Stone told his bodyguards to get him the hell out of DC about two hours into the insurrection.
Dial back your hyperbole. There is nothing "shady" about calling for a peaceful protest.

If that were true, then EVERY politician and half of DC would be in jail, which is where you seem to think this guy and anyone else to talk to anyone connected in any way shape or form to Trump should be.

Jesus...what happened to free speech?
 
Dial back your hyperbole. There is nothing "shady" about calling for a peaceful protest.

If that were true, then EVERY politician and half of DC would be in jail, which is where you seem to think this guy and anyone else to talk to anyone connected in any way shape or form to Trump should be.

Jesus...what happened to free speech?
1/6 was a peaceful protest? If they understand they won't be able to walk in the streets again if they do the 'wrong thing' sounds like a threat to me. Your kind of free speech seems to include the use of violence or are all the films about 1/6 doctored to show violence where there was none?
 
Dial back your hyperbole. There is nothing "shady" about calling for a peaceful protest.

If that were true, then EVERY politician and half of DC would be in jail, which is where you seem to think this guy and anyone else to talk to anyone connected in any way shape or form to Trump should be.

Jesus...what happened to free speech?
I'd suggest you re-read this paragraph. That sounds like a threat of violence toward lawmakers. How is he going to make people sweat? Is he going to turn off the AC?

“If we make the people inside that building sweat, and they understand that they may not be able to walk in the streets any longer if they do the wrong thing, then maybe they’ll do the right thing,” he said, according to the Times, which obtained a recording of the call.
 
I'd suggest you re-read this paragraph. That sounds like a threat of violence toward lawmakers. How is he going to make people sweat? Is he going to turn off the AC?

“If we make the people inside that building sweat, and they understand that they may not be able to walk in the streets any longer if they do the wrong thing, then maybe they’ll do the right thing,” he said, according to the Times, which obtained a recording of the call.

How does one make a politician sweat?
Election Day.
 
1/6 was a peaceful protest? If they understand they won't be able to walk in the streets again if they do the 'wrong thing' sounds like a threat to me. Your kind of free speech seems to include the use of violence or are all the films about 1/6 doctored to show violence where there was none?
It's no more a threat than Mad Maxine telling people to acost politicians on the street and at restaurants. You didn't have a problem with that, when it happened.
 
I'd suggest you re-read this paragraph. That sounds like a threat of violence toward lawmakers. How is he going to make people sweat? Is he going to turn off the AC?

“If we make the people inside that building sweat, and they understand that they may not be able to walk in the streets any longer if they do the wrong thing, then maybe they’ll do the right thing,” he said, according to the Times, which obtained a recording of the call.
See post #7.

And don't be a hypocrite.
 
What’s an insurrection?
 
Considering election day had just passed, I doubt very much he was inferring that.

Somebody is always up for election.
Placing pressure on elected officials to take action isn't exactly 'undemocratic.'
 
See post #7.

And don't be a hypocrite.
All I'm doing here is making the point that this whole fiasco was planned, and it started with Trump before the election. You can take all these incidents and put them into a box by themselves and sure, nothing sounds that egregious. When you look at the whole picture, you have an attempted coup.

“[Joe] Biden will never be in that White House,” he reportedly said on the call. “That’s my promise to each and every one of you.”
 
Somebody is always up for election.
Placing pressure on elected officials to take action isn't exactly 'undemocratic.'
Trump apologists will never quit. Nothing new here.

Using violence to achieve the same goal is not democratic. It's illegal.
 
All I'm doing here is making the point that this whole fiasco was planned, and it started with Trump before the election. You can take all these incidents and put them into a box by themselves and sure, nothing sounds that egregious. When you look at the whole picture, you have an attempted coup.

“[Joe] Biden will never be in that White House,” he reportedly said on the call. “That’s my promise to each and every one of you.”
None of that means anyone planned a riot. (There was no "attempted coup".) Hell, if you are looking for the people who planned the riot, you have to look no further than Nancy Pelosi.
 
None of that means anyone planned a riot. (There was no "attempted coup".) Hell, if you are looking for the people who planned the riot, you have to look no further than Nancy Pelosi.
Please explain in detail how Nancy Pelosi planned the riot. I'll be waiting.
 
Trump apologists will never quit. Nothing new here.

Using violence to achieve the same goal is not democratic. It's illegal.

Nobody says it was legal.
And people are properly being prosecuted-- and convicted-- for rioting at the Capitol.

Was this guy rioting at the Capitol? I am not aware of it. And in any event, you are not saying he should be charged for any violence. Your are suggesting he should be investigated for what he said.
And that is not something any American should countenance.
 
Please explain in detail how Nancy Pelosi planned the riot. I'll be waiting.
She deliberately refused offers of protection for the Capitol because she knew that there would be provocateurs in the crowd pushing people to riot. Her goal was to prevent the rest of Congress from going through any process to dispute the electoral votes.

She didn't work alone, but she and her cohorts were successful.
 
Nobody says it was legal.
And people are properly being prosecuted-- and convicted-- for rioting at the Capitol.

Was this guy rioting at the Capitol? I am not aware of it. And in any event, you are not saying he should be charged for any violence. Your are suggesting he should be investigated for what he said.
And that is not something any American should countenance.
If it's found that there was a large conspiracy to keep Biden from taking office, he would clearly be a part of it if they show the right connections. And with him being tight with Roger (The Trickster) Stone, they are sure getting close.

Nail Stone and you nail Trump, guarantee it.

Lets not forget that Seditious Conspiracy charges have already been filed. Anyone, with the right evidence can be attached to the conspiracy.
 
She deliberately refused offers of protection for the Capitol because she knew that there would be provocateurs in the crowd pushing people to riot. Her goal was to prevent the rest of Congress from going through any process to dispute the electoral votes.

She didn't work alone, but she and her cohorts were successful.
That's got to be the wildest conspiracy theory I've heard yet. But if true, way to go Nancy. Shows she was playing chess while the rest of the GOP was picking their nose.
 
That's got to be the wildest conspiracy theory I've heard yet. But if true, way to go Nancy. Shows she was playing chess while the rest of the GOP was picking their nose.
I'm not surprised you approve of corruption at the highest levels of our government to prevent resistance to criminal action.

You are dismissed.
 
Dial back your hyperbole. There is nothing "shady" about calling for a peaceful protest.

If that were true, then EVERY politician and half of DC would be in jail, which is where you seem to think this guy and anyone else to talk to anyone connected in any way shape or form to Trump should be.

Jesus...what happened to free speech?
Peaceful protests don't make people "understand that they may not be able to walk the streets any longer".

Stop minimizing what is one of the most egregious crimes in the history or our country.
 
Peaceful protests don't make people "understand that they may not be able to walk the streets any longer".

Stop minimizing what is one of the most egregious crimes in the history or our country.
“If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them! And you tell them that they are not welcome, anymore, anywhere,”

- Mad Maxine
 
Dial back your hyperbole. There is nothing "shady" about calling for a peaceful protest.

If that were true, then EVERY politician and half of DC would be in jail, which is where you seem to think this guy and anyone else to talk to anyone connected in any way shape or form to Trump should be.

Jesus...what happened to free speech?

“If we make the people inside that building sweat, and they understand that they may not be able to walk in the streets any longer if they do the wrong thing, then maybe they’ll do the right thing,”
- Jason Sullivan, right-wing communications specialist, QAnon promote

Threatening government officials of the United States is a felony under federal law. Threatening the president of the United States is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment, that is investigated by the United States Secret Service.
Threatening other officials is a Class D or C felony, usually carrying maximum penalties of 5 or 10 years under 18 U.S.C. § 875, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and other statutes, that is investigated by the
Federal Bureau of Investigation. When national boundaries are transcended by such a threat, it is considered a terrorist threat.

If they don't "do the right thing" then "they understand that they may not be able to walk in the streets any longer" - that's not free speech, it's an open threat attempting to intimidate the government officials if they don't do what they're told!

Trump supporters have a sense of entitlement that they can say or do whatever they want - and not be held accountable!

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“If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them! And you tell them that they are not welcome, anymore, anywhere,”

- Mad Maxine
But still not making the afraid to walk the streets.

False equivalency is still false. I just checked.
 
I'm not surprised you approve of corruption at the highest levels of our government to prevent resistance to criminal action.

You are dismissed.
You seem to forget that all the states had certified the electors. None of this would have happened if Trump hadn't planted the 'Big Lie' seed in the first place. This whole fiasco would not have happened if Trump would have acted like an adult and conceded. But instead, we had a riot at the nation's capital, and many people were injured and a few dead.
 
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