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Everyone Who Takes On Trump Ends Up Crushed

I would check more closely before making such a statement"

The public holds the rest of the national debt of $14.8 trillion. Foreign governments and investors hold almost half of it. Close to one-fourth is held by other governmental entities. These include the Federal Reserve, as well as state and local governments. Sixteen percent is held by mutual funds, private pension funds, and holders of savings bonds and Treasury notes. The remaining seven percent is owned by businesses, like banks and insurance companies. It's also held by an assortment of trusts, companies, and investors.

Soc. Sec. is the largest single US creditor at $3.2 trillion.
 
He never got a majority in any of the primaries.

There was virtual certainty that he would lose the election. Is it really necessary post cites to prove this point?

Let this video of Ann Coulter getting a horse laugh for saying Trump would win suffice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-2uSG1xUEg

And here's a compilation of "No way that Trump will win." from all your favorite luminaries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G87UXIH8Lzo

Eat your heart out.

Stop this now. Polls only predict elections like % chance of rain.

And as for Coulter, go see her on youtube talking about Clinton in 1998. Clinton was an amateur trump

with women and yet her and the right are behind this pervert, a creep, a liar, obstructor of justice etc.

Those are exact words used to describe Clinton when calling for his impeachment. The right has lost it all now.

They have no clothes. no content and nothing but denigration, demonization (see AOC) and absolutely no value

to the American people. People seem to lose all perspective but starting with Reagan, the right is not conservative

at all.
 
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Here's the difference. First time around people took a chance on voting for trump. After two years, he's basically lost the support from those taking a chance. He's left with his base and that's about it. Even if he's at forty percent, forty five percent even, if the dems run a decent candidate, trump won't win with that amount of support. A good bit of his win was based on how much the right hated hillary, that's gone too.

Nah, we still hate Hillary. and the ones coming up on the Left aren't any better.
 
I also find it amusing that Trump Fan Nation can't get past the 2016 election. "He beat that stinky Hillary" is the only achievement they can ever come up with.
Reminds me of Al Buddy.
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The highlight of his life before the inevitable failure that would dominate the rest of it.
 
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Nah, we still hate Hillary. and the ones coming up on the Left aren't any better.

Ok. I'm going to go out on a limb here, even if trump is still president and he runs, he has lost so much support at this point I think you're wrong. Should the one thing he has going for him start to collapse, the stock market, the GOP as a whole are doomed. We'll know in a couple of years or sooner.
 
Stop this now. Polls only predict elections like % chance of rain.

And as for Coulter, go see her on youtube talking about Clinton in 1998. Clinton was an amateur trump

with women and yet her and the right are behind this pervert, a creep, a liar, obstructor of justice etc.

Those are exact words used to describe Clinton when calling for his impeachment. The right has lost it all now.

They have no clothes. no content and nothing but denigration, demonization (see AOC) and absolutely no value

to the American people. People seem to lose all perspective but starting with Reagan, the right is not conservative

at all.

The trouble with this analysis is that Trump supporters don't believe your characterization of him. They don't believe your lies.
 
Ok. I'm going to go out on a limb here, even if trump is still president and he runs, he has lost so much support at this point I think you're wrong. Should the one thing he has going for him start to collapse, the stock market, the GOP as a whole are doomed. We'll know in a couple of years or sooner.

That smells of the sort of desperate wishful thinking that was predicting that there was no way for Trump to win before the 2016 election. The polls were all against him then, too. So there's no way of knowing until the election actually takes place.

Trump supporters don't trust pollsters and they don't trust the news media. The news media can't say how many Trump supporters there are, and even if they knew they'd lie about it.
 
The more bad news Trump gets, the crazier threads start to pop up.
 
Perhaps you remember what it was like back in 2016. Trump was a joke, a clown. There was no way he would ever win the primary. There was no way he would ever win the election. All the right people were certain of this. All the polls confirmed this.

Then he won.

And so coming up to the 2020 primaries and elections we have the same thing.

The pinheads are always so sure of themselves. Then they weep.

You just blindly skip right over the whole 2018 election huh? The historic boot-stomping, largest Congressional gains since Watergate, that Trump’s opponents had over the Trumplicans. Fascinating.

It’s also telling that you ignore the criminal conspiracy Trump, Cohen, and Pecker engaged in to steal the election. And with the current news of the day, the Stone indictment which further outlines the cheating Team Trump engaged in to barely squeak out an EC victory.

Keep telling yourself Trump is unstoppable. Who are we to try and bring you back to being tethered to objective reality.
 
That smells of the sort of desperate wishful thinking that was predicting that there was no way for Trump to win before the 2016 election. The polls were all against him then, too. So there's no way of knowing until the election actually takes place.

Trump supporters don't trust pollsters and they don't trust the news media. The news media can't say how many Trump supporters there are, and even if they knew they'd lie about it.

Trump supporters only believe trump. They are in for a rude awakening.
 
The trouble with this analysis is that Trump supporters don't believe your characterization of him. They don't believe your lies.

The good news is that Trump supporters only include between 30-35% of the population. Therefore, as the Rock would say, "It doesn't matter what you think."
 
Perhaps you remember what it was like back in 2016. Trump was a joke, a clown. There was no way he would ever win the primary. There was no way he would ever win the election. All the right people were certain of this. All the polls confirmed this.

Then he won.

And so coming up to the 2020 primaries and elections we have the same thing.

The pinheads are always so sure of themselves. Then they weep.

Yeah, don't mess with TrumPutin. McCain died of skull cancer.
 
Ok. I'm going to go out on a limb here, even if trump is still president and he runs, he has lost so much support at this point I think you're wrong. Should the one thing he has going for him start to collapse, the stock market, the GOP as a whole are doomed. We'll know in a couple of years or sooner.

Possibly, but the reason the stock market has done so well has nothing to do with Trump (other than his dumping of the Obama restrictions/requirements/taxes on business). As soon as he started removing them, the market came out of it's dormancy. Unless the liberals can find a palatable leader (none identified so far), ditch this Socialist crap, and Trump does something stupid to make business retract, I think it will be a rough stretch for the Dems.
 
Possibly, but the reason the stock market has done so well has nothing to do with Trump (other than his dumping of the Obama restrictions/requirements/taxes on business). As soon as he started removing them, the market came out of it's dormancy. Unless the liberals can find a palatable leader (none identified so far), ditch this Socialist crap, and Trump does something stupid to make business retract, I think it will be a rough stretch for the Dems.

Thanks for the input. I disagree. Trump's economy is almost the same as Obama's and as you pointed out trump promised business if elected they would be happy. So the markets have reacted to the things you've so astutely mentioned. However, I view this economy just like I viewed W's economy which was propped up by the Iraq war spending, until the truth hit and the markets collapsed and the democrats had to step in and fix with every republican in the country saying oh no, just let those big businesses die. You guys are for big business, against big business and your opinions constantly change on the same subject. The one constant, you mentioned it yourself. Liberals. We aren't even democrats or progressives to the right. We're liberals who need a lesson taught to them about who's america this is...and it's not theirs.
 
Thanks for the input. I disagree. Trump's economy is almost the same as Obama's and as you pointed out trump promised business if elected they would be happy. So the markets have reacted to the things you've so astutely mentioned. However, I view this economy just like I viewed W's economy which was propped up by the Iraq war spending, until the truth hit and the markets collapsed and the democrats had to step in and fix with every republican in the country saying oh no, just let those big businesses die. You guys are for big business, against big business and your opinions constantly change on the same subject. The one constant, you mentioned it yourself. Liberals. We aren't even democrats or progressives to the right. We're liberals who need a lesson taught to them about who's america this is...and it's not theirs.

Well at least you got that right, except for the fact that Trump's economy has blown the doors off Obama's, and there a reason for that.
 
Perhaps you remember what it was like back in 2016. Trump was a joke, a clown. There was no way he would ever win the primary. There was no way he would ever win the election. All the right people were certain of this. All the polls confirmed this.

Then he won.

And so coming up to the 2020 primaries and elections we have the same thing.

The pinheads are always so sure of themselves. Then they weep.

Wow. This post has aged about as well as a wedge of Roquefort cheese in the Sahara. Nice!
 
"...historic boot-stomping, largest Congressional gains since Watergate"? You must have missed the 60+ seats Obama lost during his mid-term.
 
Perhaps you remember what it was like back in 2016. Trump was a joke, a clown. There was no way he would ever win the primary. There was no way he would ever win the election. All the right people were certain of this. All the polls confirmed this.

Then he won.

And so coming up to the 2020 primaries and elections we have the same thing.

The pinheads are always so sure of themselves. Then they weep.

God money I'll do anything for you.
God money just tell me what you want me to
God money nail me up against the wall.
God money don't want everything he wants it all.




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Useless Trump-fluffing and no more.
 
Whenever Trump suffers another crushing setback, his supporters end up talking about the greatest achievement of his presidency: getting elected.
 
"...historic boot-stomping, largest Congressional gains since Watergate"? You must have missed the 60+ seats Obama lost during his mid-term.

Your What About What About Obama isn't helping trump much now
 
Your What About What About Obama isn't helping trump much now

True, but I did point out that the poster was wrong. Wrong in the little things, wrong in the big ones...
 
Perhaps you remember what it was like back in 2016. Trump was a joke, a clown. There was no way he would ever win the primary. There was no way he would ever win the election. All the right people were certain of this. All the polls confirmed this.

Then he won.

And so coming up to the 2020 primaries and elections we have the same thing.

The pinheads are always so sure of themselves. Then they weep.

This is hilarious.

Unfortunately for you Trump acolytes, this is not Russia, North Korea, Turkey, Venezuela or any other fascist kleptocratic dictatorship.

You'll be luck if your Dear Leader is still in office by 2020.:lamo
 
The trouble with this analysis is that Trump supporters don't believe your characterization of him. They don't believe your lies.

I tell you no lies, it's all a matter of record all over the net. (Google. Youtube etc.)

Both what the right said about and did to the Clintons (1990s) and the obvious double standard we see now with the right

(GOP) supporting a clown that makes B. Clinton look like a choirboy and Hillary look like Mary Poppins.

Trump supporters as I have been reading for 3 years, believe only what they...want to believe.

If the left did to trump what the right did to Clinton, there would be left-financed civil suits filed against him as we type and he would be forced to

testify just like Clinton. I'd love to watch the right go into fits over that now...blatant hypocrites that they are.
 
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