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The war is the big issue of course, but this is a silver lining.
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European Union's next member: Ukraine
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It's still good news. Stop raining on the parade.
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Wanna really put this all to the test?
NATO.
Putin made his threats. Do we trust them? Nukes? Would he kill himself along with the rest of us?
NATO.
Putin made his threats. Do we trust them? Nukes? Would he kill himself along with the rest of us?
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Russia invading Ukraine doesn’t justify it’s admittance into NATO.
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I'm not so sure. Even Orban spoke out against Putin.
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Probably not
But the guy is an aging madman (like drumpf, by the way) so it' obviously something that the boyz in the Pentagon and NATO have to consider...
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Do some googling on the subject of Ukraine’s admittance into NATO. The various reasons why the country isn’t ready are well documented.
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Will do.
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But as they say, "Better late than never."
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would hope he kills himself before the rest of us if that were to happen. Very few people on Earth support his unjustified war crime that he knew violates all international laws.
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Not to mention, it wasn't clear Ukraine would get to join at all, or at least for years to come until this.
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I was getting at Putin's threat of using nukes if NATO jumps into the fight. Admitting Ukraine would put it to the test. Not sure I want to do that though....when someone like him is facing a loss of power, they can be erratic and dangerous.
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Is anyone reading about the EU making history?
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If you mean by this welcoming of Ukraine, yes, the reporting notes it's historic.
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All Western leaders on both sides of the Atlantic are emphasizing they won't send troops to Ukraine to fight. If they're not even doing that, then they're not letting Ukraine into EU or NATO.
Remember, Ukraine is a divided society, and one third of Ukraine's population is Russian. So Zelensky doesn't represent all Ukrainians. The last Ukrainian who was elected to office from elections across the entire country was Yanuckovitch -- and he got overthrown by a Capitol Insurrection street coup.
I don't think NATO membership can work for a country that's divided about being in NATO. But you'll tell me, "Sure it can! If anyone gets elected with the wrong kind of views on NATO, then just get rid of them! Just say he's a stooge of Putin! Put together a dossier, get some fake FISA warrant, surveil the hell out of him, and start some fishing expedition that can be used to dig up any dirt on him, and just sandbag the guy until he's politically crippled and impeached! There's a template for all of this!" 😁
But really, I think that overreach will only sew dissension in NATO, and lead to its demise.
Remember, Ukraine is a divided society, and one third of Ukraine's population is Russian. So Zelensky doesn't represent all Ukrainians. The last Ukrainian who was elected to office from elections across the entire country was Yanuckovitch -- and he got overthrown by a Capitol Insurrection street coup.
I don't think NATO membership can work for a country that's divided about being in NATO. But you'll tell me, "Sure it can! If anyone gets elected with the wrong kind of views on NATO, then just get rid of them! Just say he's a stooge of Putin! Put together a dossier, get some fake FISA warrant, surveil the hell out of him, and start some fishing expedition that can be used to dig up any dirt on him, and just sandbag the guy until he's politically crippled and impeached! There's a template for all of this!" 😁
But really, I think that overreach will only sew dissension in NATO, and lead to its demise.
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Hell, we're a divided society with a third of our country Russians also now. It's even next to their name (R).
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McCarthyite describing himself as "progressive" -- that's quite a switch