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EU terror summer-will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terrorism? [W:12]

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It is now a fortnight since Mohammed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ and ploughed a truck along the Nice seafront, killing 84 people. The following Monday Mohammed Riyad, who said he was from Afghanistan but almost certainly came from Pakistan, screamed ‘Allahu Akbar’ while hacking with an axe at his fellow passengers on a Bavarian train. The next day another Mohammed, this time Mohamed Boufarkouch, shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ and stabbed a Frenchwoman and her three daughters (aged eight, 12 and 14) near Montpelier. Mixing things up a little, that Friday’s shooter in Munich was a child of Iranians called Ali David Sonboly. Skip forward a couple of days and a ‘-Syrian asylum seeker’ with a machete was hacking a pregnant woman to death in Stuttgart. The next day another ‘Syrian asylum seeker’, Mohammad Daleel, carried out a suicide bombing outside a bar in Ansbach, Bavaria. And a little over 24 hours later two men shouting the name of Isis entered a church in Rouen during Mass, took the nuns and congregation hostage and slaughtered the priest with a knife.
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And the obama Regime can't even be honest about this! Neither can Hillary! They are both ....Cowards!
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Not sure what Obama or Hilary can do about European internal security...
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Not sure what Obama or Hilary can do about European internal security...

Yeah, it's up to Europe to do something about it.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Not sure what Obama or Hilary can do about European internal security...

Neither is Mickey.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Not sure what Obama or Hilary can do about European internal security...

Nothing. What they can do is call it what it is. I would take that for starters.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Not sure what Obama or Hilary can do about European internal security...

doesn't matter, it's Obama's fault

everything

feeling a bit off today, it's his fault

these people attribute the power of the god's to this guy

God Obama
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

I agree that more should be done to protect citizens from terror attacks, but - we should never disrespect the victims of these attacks by utilizing Islamic extremism as a political tool and scapegoat to further political ulterior motives. Both threats need to be pushed back against equally as fervently and relentless, with an equal amount of determination and willpower.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

I think there is consensus that Europe is under terror attack, the disagreement is about the motives. One side says these attacks are made by people who are frustrated about their socioeconomic status or has mental issues and they using Islamic jihad as a cover for these attacks. The other side attribute the attacks to a wide process of radicalization
of Islam in Europe and the rest of the world, and extremist Islamic people are using musilms in Europe to excute terror attacks. I think it's a matter of time until there will be consensus about the second option.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Nothing. What they can do is call it what it is. I would take that for starters.

Maybe if they chanted "Islamic Jihad" three times while facing Mecca and eating a ham sandwich, the whole problem would go away.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

I think there is consensus that Europe is under terror attack, the disagreement is about the motives. One side says these attacks are made by people who are frustrated about their socioeconomic status or has mental issues and they using Islamic jihad as a cover for these attacks. The other side attribute the attacks to a wide process of radicalization
of Islam in Europe and the rest of the world, and extremist Islamic people are using musilms in Europe to excute terror attacks. I think it's a matter of time until there will be consensus about the second option.
I'd hold that neither option can be discarded in favor of the other and I'd also hold that there's no clear dividing line between the two.

It'll be a case by case assessment and often enough even then the lines will show to blur.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Maybe if they chanted "Islamic Jihad" three times while facing Mecca and eating a ham sandwich, the whole problem would go away.

It would be hard to imagine a more ridiculous response. What they're doing now is hoping Islamic jihad will go away by not acknowledging its existence. All together now - fingers in ears - aaaaannndddd - LA LA LA LA LA.

Btw, I create a thread called "Islam and rape" in the Religion And Politics section in answer to a rhetorical question from you. I wasn't surprised you didn't respond. Doncha hate it when someone actually answers a rhetorical question and makes you look foolish?
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

It would be hard to imagine a more ridiculous response. What they're doing now is hoping Islamic jihad will go away by not acknowledging its existence. All together now - fingers in ears - aaaaannndddd - LA LA LA LA LA.

Btw, I create a thread called "Islam and rape" in the Religion And Politics section in answer to a rhetorical question from you. I wasn't surprised you didn't respond. Doncha hate it when someone actually answers a rhetorical question and makes you look foolish?

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

There are rumors London is next for terror on a regular basis next. We will see if May gives Islam the same treatment Cameron did. If she says it is the religion of peace and has been hijacked, then we will know it(Islam) will never be accepted for what it is.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Liberal europe will not even tell what caused them to want the young of other nations

THE REASON is LIBERALISM their own BIG BIG ERROR.. abortion and gays being copied which has brought a big imbalance of young to old... they then had to bring in the young.... BUT they brought in their worst enemy of liberalism MUSLIMS !!! What OUTRAGEOUS harmful cover up leaders does liberal nations have..... amazing
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Liberal europe will not even tell what caused them to want the young of other nations

THE REASON is LIBERALISM their own BIG BIG ERROR.. abortion and gays being copied which has brought a big imbalance of young to old... they then had to bring in the young.... BUT they brought in their worst enemy of liberalism MUSLIMS !!! What OUTRAGEOUS harmful cover up leaders does liberal nations have..... amazing

What the **** are you even talking about?

Abortion and gays being copied? What?
 

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What the **** are you even talking about?

Abortion and gays being copied? What?

what has caused the running in of the young?? its the big imbalance of young to old that the liberals has caused with abortion and gays to be copied.. the liberal presidents will NOT take the blame and just hide .. LIBERALISM is the BLAME
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

It would be hard to imagine a more ridiculous response. What they're doing now is hoping Islamic jihad will go away by not acknowledging its existence. All together now - fingers in ears - aaaaannndddd - LA LA LA LA LA.

Btw, I create a thread called "Islam and rape" in the Religion And Politics section in answer to a rhetorical question from you. I wasn't surprised you didn't respond. Doncha hate it when someone actually answers a rhetorical question and makes you look foolish?

What's ridiculous is complaining that the president doesn't use the phrase "Islamic Terrorism," and maintaining that means he doesn't understand that there are Islamic terrorists.

I didn't see your thread. Was it successful?
 

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Re: EU terror summer-will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terrorism? [W

It is now a fortnight since Mohammed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ and ploughed a truck along the Nice seafront, killing 84 people. The following Monday Mohammed Riyad, who said he was from Afghanistan but almost certainly came from Pakistan, screamed ‘Allahu Akbar’ while hacking with an axe at his fellow passengers on a Bavarian train. The next day another Mohammed, this time Mohamed Boufarkouch, shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ and stabbed a Frenchwoman and her three daughters (aged eight, 12 and 14) near Montpelier. Mixing things up a little, that Friday’s shooter in Munich was a child of Iranians called Ali David Sonboly. Skip forward a couple of days and a ‘-Syrian asylum seeker’ with a machete was hacking a pregnant woman to death in Stuttgart. The next day another ‘Syrian asylum seeker’, Mohammad Daleel, carried out a suicide bombing outside a bar in Ansbach, Bavaria. And a little over 24 hours later two men shouting the name of Isis entered a church in Rouen during Mass, took the nuns and congregation hostage and slaughtered the priest with a knife.
Europe's terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terrorism? | Coffee House


And the obama Regime can't even be honest about this! Neither can Hillary! They are both ....Cowards!

I hope so. The common response to terrorism is fatally flawed. While the argument that backlash against Islam and Muslims will fuel radicalization has merit, that backlash will happen because people are not going to be cool, level-headed automatons when they see people being slaughtered on the streets. Attempting to follow that path will result in fuelling suspicion of the government at best, and Merkel-style censorship at worst.

Refusing to talk about Islamic terrorism just skirts the issue, and hopefully that failed policy will be abandoned soon. We need to be talking about reductions in Muslim immigration, more targeted immigration (as Switzerland, for instance, practices), a concerted effort to aid assimilation (spreading out immigrants to increase cross-cultural contact and prevent communitarianism, coupled with education initiatives). The status quo is just creating a tinderbox.
 

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Re: EU terror summer-will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terrorism? [W

I hope so. The common response to terrorism is fatally flawed. While the argument that backlash against Islam and Muslims will fuel radicalization has merit, that backlash will happen because people are not going to be cool, level-headed automatons when they see people being slaughtered on the streets. Attempting to follow that path will result in fuelling suspicion of the government at best, and Merkel-style censorship at worst.

Refusing to talk about Islamic terrorism just skirts the issue, and hopefully that failed policy will be abandoned soon. We need to be talking about reductions in Muslim immigration, more targeted immigration (as Switzerland, for instance, practices), a concerted effort to aid assimilation (spreading out immigrants to increase cross-cultural contact and prevent communitarianism, coupled with education initiatives). The status quo is just creating a tinderbox.

Very well stated! I fully agree.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

Not sure what Obama or Hilary can do about European internal security...

A lot actually. By stating publicly what it is and pressuring Europe to do something. So far with Europe, it's all been After Action.

Yeah, it's up to Europe to do something about it.

It was in 1938 as well, but they were virtually ineffective. It took the US and Russia, to save them from Hitler!

Neither is Mickey.

Actually you are wrong. Mickey knows a thing or two, because he has experienced a thing or two. ;)

Your lack of knowledge of what I have done in government service over 50 years, is so noted...

Nothing. What they can do is call it what it is. I would take that for starters.

That's a start, but only the beginning of the first quarter.

We've been at war with radical Islam since about 700 A.D. Some are just starting to get that.

doesn't matter, it's Obama's fault

everything

feeling a bit off today, it's his fault

these people attribute the power of the god's to this guy

God Obama

Of course it's obama's fault....he's a ****ing socialist putz!!!! He follows the Alynsky playbook....and that is not good for the USA!
Anyone who supported or voted for obama....is totally misguided!

And obama is as far from a god as a birdturd on the ground is, from a flying eagle.

I agree that more should be done to protect citizens from terror attacks, but - we should never disrespect the victims of these attacks by utilizing Islamic extremism as a political tool and scapegoat to further political ulterior motives. Both threats need to be pushed back against equally as fervently and relentless, with an equal amount of determination and willpower.


Well stated. Good to see common sense prevail.
 
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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

I think there is consensus that Europe is under terror attack, the disagreement is about the motives. One side says these attacks are made by people who are frustrated about their socioeconomic status or has mental issues and they using Islamic jihad as a cover for these attacks. The other side attribute the attacks to a wide process of radicalization
of Islam in Europe and the rest of the world, and extremist Islamic people are using musilms in Europe to execute terror attacks. I think it's a matter of time until there will be consensus about the second option.

You got it! :thumbs::thumbs:

Maybe if they chanted "Islamic Jihad" three times while facing Mecca and eating a ham sandwich, the whole problem would go away.

Sounds like obama's plan to me...

I'd hold that neither option can be discarded in favor of the other and I'd also hold that there's no clear dividing line between the two.

It'll be a case by case assessment and often enough even then the lines will show to blur.

Yes and blur they will.
 

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Re: EU terror summer-will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terrorism? [W

It is now a fortnight since Mohammed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ and ploughed a truck along the Nice seafront, killing 84 people. The following Monday Mohammed Riyad, who said he was from Afghanistan but almost certainly came from Pakistan, screamed ‘Allahu Akbar’ while hacking with an axe at his fellow passengers on a Bavarian train. The next day another Mohammed, this time Mohamed Boufarkouch, shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ and stabbed a Frenchwoman and her three daughters (aged eight, 12 and 14) near Montpelier. Mixing things up a little, that Friday’s shooter in Munich was a child of Iranians called Ali David Sonboly. Skip forward a couple of days and a ‘-Syrian asylum seeker’ with a machete was hacking a pregnant woman to death in Stuttgart. The next day another ‘Syrian asylum seeker’, Mohammad Daleel, carried out a suicide bombing outside a bar in Ansbach, Bavaria. And a little over 24 hours later two men shouting the name of Isis entered a church in Rouen during Mass, took the nuns and congregation hostage and slaughtered the priest with a knife.
Europe's terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terrorism? | Coffee House


And the obama Regime can't even be honest about this! Neither can Hillary! They are both ....Cowards!

Merkel rules out migrant policy reversal after attacks - BBC News

No.
 

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Re: EU terror summer-will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terrorism? [W

Accept the reality of Islamic terror? Hmm we have been battling radical Islam and terror far longer than the Americans.. the first "Islamic" terror attacks happened in the early 1970s. It is nothing new.
 

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Re: Europe’s terror summer: will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terror

What's ridiculous is complaining that the president doesn't use the phrase "Islamic Terrorism," and maintaining that means he doesn't understand that there are Islamic terrorists.

I didn't see your thread. Was it successful?

It's on page 2 of Religion and Politics, second from the bottom. I would be interested in your opinion of my response.
 

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Re: EU terror summer-will politicians now accept the reality of Islamic terrorism? [W

Accept the reality of Islamic terror? Hmm we have been battling radical Islam and terror far longer than the Americans.. the first "Islamic" terror attacks happened in the early 1970s. It is nothing new.

The first Islamic terror attacks happened in the 7th century.
 
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