- Mar 11, 2006
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EU migration: UK to face 'free-for-all', Michael Gove warns - EU migration: UK to face 'free-for-all', Michael Gove warns - BBC News
gunner posted this and it needs a response.
Fact: Any deal with the EU by the UK will require freedom of movement of people and goods. Grove fails to mention this, just as most on the leave side does.. why is that? Do you, the people of Britain actually believe that they would get a deal with the EU that allowed them to set quotas on the number of EU migrants???? that is laughable to say the least.
Fact: EU citizens going to the UK, go there for jobs. They do not (for the most part) go there for healthcare or benefits. There is far better healthcare in places like France, Germany and Spain. Benefits are better in Scandinavia.. so it is beyond pathetic that Grove pushes this narrative. What he should be focusing on is why the NHS is under strain... which is lack of investment and poor planning. The EU migrants are in fact paying for large parts of the NHS.. as in the NHS would be in a much bigger hole financially if it was not for the EU migrants. Also EU migrants are mostly young healthy people, so their use of the NHS is relatively minimal compared to local Brits. Why does Grove not mention this.. why is he deceiving the British population? Why is that the leave campaign refuses to admit that up to 1/5 of all NHS staff is... EU citizens. Their only response, yea but the system blocks recruitment from places like India, Pakistan and the Philippines.... wait what? They want to replace Poles, French, Spanish nurses and doctors with people from the Philippines?
Fact: Countries that have applied to join the EU are just that.. applicants. If they can not meet the conditions of membership then they wont get membership. He specifically mentions certain countries, most notably Turkey. The fear of 80 million "Muslims" flooding into Europe is a great motivator.. problem is that is horse****. Turks already have almost free access to Europe. Under 5% of Turks are denied access to Europe on average. Plus the condition that Turkey is in, does not meet the minimum requirements of membership. Its legal system is problematic to say the least, and the political system is borderline non democratic. Turkey will not be let into the EU under the current conditions period. Several countries also have stated they would require a referendum before they would accept Turkey.
So we are back to fearmongering by Grove and the Brexit people.
I saw an interview on the BBC yesterday where a leave campaigner said that there are 300k new people in the UK a year, a city about the size of Newcastle. While technically true, she said it as it was all EU migrants.. It is not. In fact the majority is non-EU migrants, and the actual EU migrant number is about 140k. Funny how that was not caught by the BBC reporter. And what kind of non-EU migrants come to the UK? Oh from India, Pakistan, Nigeria and so on... most of those dont come for jobs, but to join family. They are a far bigger burden on schools and the NHS than EU migrants.. why is no one talking about that? Why is no one talking about stopping the non-EU migration problem? If having a bunch of Poles coming to the UK for work is such a massive strain on the NHS and schools despite most not using these facilities, then why is it not an even bigger problem when a family of 7 comes from Nigeria or India?
The leave campaign has taken massive hits the last few days and this attack by Grove has to be pulled apart by the British media. It is a lame attempt to try to get a campaign back on track by using xenophobia and racism (thanks Boris!) and hiding certain "unwanted facts"....