English Catholicism and the See of Rome

[RGacky3]

But would we agree that there is objective beauty? I think we would both find pornography as shameful and indecent, and would both call it sinful and testify that it is objectively shameful, but what can I point to using the methods of empiricism to state that it is undoubtedly shameful?

I can point to the scriptures and the principles within that it is shameful, as well as the effect it has on individuals.

I don't know if there is objective beauty or not ... I simply don't have a position on it.

 

[phattonez]

I can point to the scriptures and the principles within that it is shameful, as well as the effect it has on individuals.

I don't know if there is objective beauty or not ... I simply don't have a position on it.

But Scripture is a revealed truth, as in something that we could not grasp on our own.

 

[RGacky3]

But Scripture is a revealed truth, as in something that we could not grasp on our own.

Ok .... That's a different subject and nothing to do With what we are talking about.

 

[phattonez]

Ok .... That's a different subject and nothing to do With what we are talking about.

Yes it does. Beauty cannot be measured.

 

[RGacky3]

Yes it does. Beauty cannot be measured.

... Ok ... then maybe it's not objective ...

 

[phattonez]

... Ok ... then maybe it's not objective ...

Nor is sin, according to such a worldview.

 

[RGacky3]

Nor is sin, according to such a worldview.

Yes it is .. because there are written principles in a book, I can read the objective standard.