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End Affirmative Action?

End Affirmative Action?

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Moi621

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End Affirmative Action?



Time to end AA and support
quality over "diversity".



AA was good decades ago. Not in the 21st Century
Why not diversify professional basketball.
Not enough short guys. Nor Jews. Nor Asians.

Oh I know!
Diversity good ;)
More "straights" in the entertainment industry.



Moi




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I don't see any reason to end affirmative action. It helps minorities, like black people, to find jobs and other opportunities. Something they have historically struggled with.
 

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End Affirmative Action?



Time to end AA and support
quality over "diversity".



AA was good decades ago. Not in the 21st Century
Why not diversify professional basketball.
Not enough short guys. Nor Jews. Nor Asians.

Oh I know!
Diversity good ;)
More "straights" in the entertainment industry.



Moi




No :2canadian​​

Incredible that your still using the lame think up stupid ways of doing something as an excuse.
 

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If you want absolutely proof that Affirmative Action is institutionalized Democrat bigotry, just point out to any Democrat that Obama was the very first Affirmative Action President and watch how upset they become. Democrats are only capable of judging people by the color of their skin. They are all bigots, and they always have been.

Affirmative Action demeans all women and all minorities. It is the Democrats way of saying that all minorities and women are inferior and require the government to intervene on their behalf. Affirmative Action is institutionalized leftist bigotry at its finest.
 

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What a bunch of false flag (you're regressive, not "pro") racist filth. This would set us back into the good ol' 1950s (or possibly 1850s) on equal opportunity.
 

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If you want absolutely proof that Affirmative Action is institutionalized Democrat bigotry, just point out to any Democrat that Obama was the very first Affirmative Action President and watch how upset they become. Democrats are only capable of judging people by the color of their skin. They are all bigots, and they always have been.

Affirmative Action demeans all women and all minorities. It is the Democrats way of saying that all minorities and women are inferior and require the government to intervene on their behalf. Affirmative Action is institutionalized leftist bigotry at its finest.

Racist garbage, as usual from one of the most dependable sources of it.
 

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imo, AA has outlived its usefulness. The US also has the Equal Opportunity law that covers discrimination.
 

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I don't see any reason to end affirmative action. It helps minorities, like black people, to find jobs and other opportunities. Something they have historically struggled with.

It also places minorities in positions that are competing against more highly-qualified, Asians.
 

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If you want absolutely proof that Affirmative Action is institutionalized Democrat bigotry, just point out to any Democrat that Obama was the very first Affirmative Action President and watch how upset they become. Democrats are only capable of judging people by the color of their skin. They are all bigots, and they always have been.

Affirmative Action demeans all women and all minorities. It is the Democrats way of saying that all minorities and women are inferior and require the government to intervene on their behalf. Affirmative Action is institutionalized leftist bigotry at its finest.


Affirmative action only exists in the first place because of discrimination against women and minorities in the job market.

If there had been other black presidents before Obama, would he still have been an "affirmative action president"?
 

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imo, AA has outlived its usefulness. The US also has the Equal Opportunity law that covers discrimination.

We've had the Fourteenth Amendment since 1867 that prohibited every State from denying "to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." But that is precisely what Democrats did for 153 years, denied women and minorities, but particularly blacks, the equal protection of the laws. And they are still doing it through Affirmative Action.
 

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Incredible that your still using the lame think up stupid ways of doing something as an excuse.


No!


It is more of a rebellion against Orwellian double speak.

The same ones pushing "content of ones character and not the color of . . . "
are the "bean counters" who divide and categorize us.




Si?
 

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Affirmative action only exists in the first place because of discrimination against women and minorities in the job market.
Affirmative Action exists to perpetuate leftist bigotry. It is what leftist "Identity Politics" is all about.

If there had been other black presidents before Obama, would he still have been an "affirmative action president"?
Considering that all women and all minorities are automatically included as Affirmative Action recipients, whether they want to be or not, absolutely! Democrats want to be certain to stain all women and all minorities with the stigma of being Affirmative Action recipients.
 

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Affirmative Action exists to perpetuate leftist bigotry. It is what leftist "Identity Politics" is all about.

Considering that all women and all minorities are automatically included as Affirmative Action recipients, whether they want to be or not, absolutely! Democrats want to be certain to stain all women and all minorities with the stigma of being Affirmative Action recipients.

What's the stigma of being an affirmative action recipient? What's wrong with identity politics? All of the good things that have come to women and black people in america, like universal suffrage, emancipation, and civil rights, happened because of identity politics.
 

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It's not racist garbage. How did Obama get into Columbia? It wasn't because of his grades, that's for sure.
Why do you assume it wasn't because of his grades? Yeah, sorry. Racist garbage was right.
 

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End Affirmative Action?



Time to end AA and support
quality over "diversity".



AA was good decades ago. Not in the 21st Century
Why not diversify professional basketball.
Not enough short guys. Nor Jews. Nor Asians.

Oh I know!
Diversity good ;)
More "straights" in the entertainment industry.



Moi




No :2canadian​​

The purpose of Affirmative Action is integration. Integration is how you remove racism from a culture. While the older generations might react angrily to schools giving preferential treatment to minorities, the students themselves simply assimilate: In the most common scenario of a mostly white school pursuing minority students for the purpose of diversity, white students adopt some non-white culture, and non-white students adopt some of white culture. The next generation is enriched above and beyond their parents' monolithic cultures by this exposure to other cultures and racism therefore becomes rarer and rarer with each generation.

We have Affirmative Action to thank for the fact that the United States is now a much less racist and much more tolerant nation than it was less than one generation ago. It was not any federal law meant to punish discrimination that changed American culture, nor was it the admonishments of "woke" white people. It was solely racial and cultural integration. As such, Affirmative Action should be a permanent fixture in America, as the cons of borderline majority students missing out on an opportunities given to minority students are a small price to pay for the greater good to the nation of widespread cultural integration and assimilation.

Cultural diversity is like genetic diversity: Not enough of it is destructive to human society. Anything that encourages it should be embraced and promoted.
 

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The purpose of Affirmative Action is integration. Integration is how you remove racism from a culture. While the older generations might react angrily to schools giving preferential treatment to minorities, the students themselves simply assimilate: In the most common scenario of a mostly white school pursuing minority students for the purpose of diversity, white students adopt some non-white culture, and non-white students adopt some of white culture. The next generation is enriched above and beyond their parents' monolithic cultures by this exposure to other cultures and racism therefore becomes rarer and rarer with each generation.

We have Affirmative Action to thank for the fact that the United States is now a much less racist and much more tolerant nation than it was less than one generation ago. It was not any federal law meant to punish discrimination that changed American culture, nor was it the admonishments of "woke" white people. It was solely racial and cultural integration. As such, Affirmative Action should be a permanent fixture in America, as the cons of borderline majority students missing out on an opportunities given to minority students are a small price to pay for the greater good to the nation of widespread cultural integration and assimilation.

Cultural diversity is like genetic diversity: Not enough of it is destructive to human society. Anything that encourages it should be embraced and promoted.



Including government enforced "numbers"?

Quotas and the like.

Maybe Jews & Asians make better physicians
as Black people do basketball players.
Yet AA only applies to physicians and not basketball players.

This is not to say AA was inappropriate for the end of the 20th Century.
It is to say using further, furthers racism.
The gov't should not be involved in counting people by race, etc., etc.
Oh, and enforcing non compliance?




Moi
 

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No!


It is more of a rebellion against Orwellian double speak.

The same ones pushing "content of ones character and not the color of . . . "
are the "bean counters" who divide and categorize us.




Si?

No, This is nothing more than more white trash thinking. Otherwise you would be able to put up an intelligent example of affirmative action instead of the idiot example that you did use.
 

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No! No! No!

Currently ladies & gentlemen who are African American or Asian American or Hispanic American are the beneficiaries of affirmative action.

But within a few decades, it will be ladies & gentlemen who are Euro Americans who will need the assistance of affirmative action to obtain jobs, college entrance, etc.

Let's, in fact, strengthen affirmative action.
 
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