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Elizabeth Warren - The Dems are going to Screw Themselves Again

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Warren. I like her, but she waded into that BS about her being part Native American. There are going to be ****ing "Pocahontas" posters pasted over everything from now until 2020 when she loses.

Pick someone cool and without baggage Dems! One of the San Antonio twins, Gavin Newsom, Tulsi Gabbard, ANYONE BUT SOMEONE WITH TONS OF EASY PICKINGS LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN. Sure, whoever runs the GOP dirty tricksters will find something, but it won't be as easy as it will be with Warren.

When they tilted the scales for HRC against Bernie they totally ****ed themselves. They're about to do it again.

I feel powerless to stop it. So depressing.
 
Warren. I like her, but she waded into that BS about her being part Native American. There are going to be ****ing "Pocahontas" posters pasted over everything from now until 2020 when she loses.

Pick someone cool and without baggage Dems! One of the San Antonio twins, Gavin Newsom, Tulsi Gabbard, ANYONE BUT SOMEONE WITH TONS OF EASY PICKINGS LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN. Sure, whoever runs the GOP dirty tricksters will find something, but it won't be as easy as it will be with Warren.

When they tilted the scales for HRC against Bernie they totally ****ed themselves. They're about to do it again.

I feel powerless to stop it. So depressing.

Dude, relax. You know that we are going to get a double-digit number of candidates, right?
 
Warren. I like her, but she waded into that BS about her being part Native American. There are going to be ****ing "Pocahontas" posters pasted over everything from now until 2020 when she loses.

Pick someone cool and without baggage Dems! One of the San Antonio twins, Gavin Newsom, Tulsi Gabbard, ANYONE BUT SOMEONE WITH TONS OF EASY PICKINGS LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN. Sure, whoever runs the GOP dirty tricksters will find something, but it won't be as easy as it will be with Warren.

When they tilted the scales for HRC against Bernie they totally ****ed themselves. They're about to do it again.

I feel powerless to stop it. So depressing.

It is not the baggage so much as it is that she looks horrible in the spotlight....she is so clearly not up to it.

I said here when I was fresh that I thought that she could make a decent candidate and that I would consider voting for her, but I was wrong.
 
Warren. I like her, but she waded into that BS about her being part Native American. There are going to be ****ing "Pocahontas" posters pasted over everything from now until 2020 when she loses.

Pick someone cool and without baggage Dems! One of the San Antonio twins, Gavin Newsom, Tulsi Gabbard, ANYONE BUT SOMEONE WITH TONS OF EASY PICKINGS LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN. Sure, whoever runs the GOP dirty tricksters will find something, but it won't be as easy as it will be with Warren.

When they tilted the scales for HRC against Bernie they totally ****ed themselves. They're about to do it again.

I feel powerless to stop it. So depressing.


The only ones that would hold her repeating something that she had been told her whole life against her are people that would not vote for her to begin with...
 
The only ones that would hold her repeating something that she had been told her whole life against her are people that would not vote for her to begin with...

Precisely this. Republicans and their stenographers in the media are going to concern troll Democrats regarding likeability and baggage. Don't fall for it.
 
Dude, relax. You know that we are going to get a double-digit number of candidates, right?

Whatever. Bernie was the more appealing candidate of all the Dems in for 2016 and the Dems establishment ****s screwed him. They went for the establishment candidate. Warren doesn't have either the pazzaz or the spontaneous wit to out trump trump.

Bernie would have won over the independents who went for trump against Hillary, I'm certain he would have. If it wasn't for the DCCC we'd be looking at a Bernie presidency right now.

I can't believe I'm about to use a trump phrase, but I feel like the system is rigged and we're all just patsies thinking we're really in control of our own destiny
 
The breathless urgency is wearing. A shame because she’s smart and tough and knows what’s what.
 
The only ones that would hold her repeating something that she had been told her whole life against her are people that would not vote for her to begin with...

No. No. The "X" factor is the independants. The ones who just could not stomach Hillary. I'm convinced these folks would have voted for Bernie had he been the Dem nominee. The GOP love to tear down people's character. When the Dems put Warren out there all they're doing is making it easy for the GOP dirty tricksters.
 
The breathless urgency is wearing. A shame because she’s smart and tough and knows what’s what.

I agree she's absolutely qualified and she'd make a great president. I don't know if HRC would have been a "great" president but I certainly feel she is more qualified than Mr. President **** Show.

But elections are beauty contests, Jack. Qualifications be damned. Look who we just elected president last time! We need someone both qualified and someone who will appeal to the independent voter. We need to Obama this place up if we're gonna win in 2020.
 
Whatever. Bernie was the more appealing candidate of all the Dems in for 2016 and the Dems establishment ****s screwed him. They went for the establishment candidate. Warren doesn't have either the pazzaz or the spontaneous wit to out trump trump.

Bernie would have won over the independents who went for trump against Hillary, I'm certain he would have. If it wasn't for the DCCC we'd be looking at a Bernie presidency right now.

I can't believe I'm about to use a trump phrase, but I feel like the system is rigged and we're all just patsies thinking we're really in control of our own destiny

Quit whining. If Sanders was such a great candidate then no amount of "rigging" would have kept him from becoming the nominee.

You do know that the RNC was impartial against tRump, right? Yet we never hear about that one! I wonder why that is?
 
No. No. The "X" factor is the independants. The ones who just could not stomach Hillary. I'm convinced these folks would have voted for Bernie had he been the Dem nominee. The GOP love to tear down people's character. When the Dems put Warren out there all they're doing is making it easy for the GOP dirty tricksters.


I prefer to believe that the public overall ( with the exception of the 25 to 30% of the easily brainwashed members of cult trump) will not be so gullible again...
 
Quit whining. If Sanders was such a great candidate then no amount of "rigging" would have kept him from becoming the nominee.

You do know that the RNC was impartial against tRump, right? Yet we never hear about that one! I wonder why that is?

You've got your head in the sand if you don't think history is about to repeat itself my friend. We need to come up with ways not to be just spectators as it happens. The first step is kicking the establishment ****s like Donna Brazille and whoever that guy is who used to the the Secretary of labor the **** out and get some non-establishment, non-pig trough folks in there.
 
I prefer to believe that the public overall ( with the exception of the 25 to 30% of the easily brainwashed members of cult trump) will not be so gullible again...

I'll say it again. Part of the "brainwashed" as you call them were rust belt dems and true independants who could not stomach Hillary. Unfortunately we need to waive something pretty in front of the brainwashed if we're going to win them over and win the election in 2020 and Warren just ain't it, IMO.
 
Doesn't matter who the Dems run, the GOP will paint them as a communist, socialist, anti white racist, pro illegal immigration, pro terrorism, anti gun, etc. The Dems just need to get out and vote. Don't abstain as they did in 2016.
 
I hope the democrats are smart enough to vote for someone other than Warren in the primaries. If not the Rebublicans will get 4 more years
 
You've got your head in the sand if you don't think history is about to repeat itself my friend. We need to come up with ways not to be just spectators as it happens. The first step is kicking the establishment ****s like Donna Brazille and whoever that guy is who used to the the Secretary of labor the **** out and get some non-establishment, non-pig trough folks in there.

Wow dude. You really do sound like a tRump supporter.

May I suggest a long, hot bath to calm down?
 
Doesn't matter who the Dems run, the GOP will paint them as a communist, socialist, anti white racist, pro illegal immigration, pro terrorism, anti gun, etc. The Dems just need to get out and vote. Don't abstain as they did in 2016.

No one listens to me :(
 
No. No. The "X" factor is the independants. The ones who just could not stomach Hillary. I'm convinced these folks would have voted for Bernie had he been the Dem nominee. The GOP love to tear down people's character. When the Dems put Warren out there all they're doing is making it easy for the GOP dirty tricksters.

Independents weren't the reason why Hillary lost. Lower turn-out among key Democrat voting blocs is why she lost. Obama lost independents in 2012 by a slightly larger margin than Hillary did in 2016, and yet he STILL won by five million votes. Why? Because Democrats came out strong for him, including in the three blue states that Trump barely won over Hillary. Had Clinton been able to match Obama's numbers in 2012, she would have been president today.
 
Wow dude. You really do sound like a tRump supporter.

May I suggest a long, hot bath to calm down?

You have a right to your opinion. Instead of attacking me personally why don't you try to use your brain and tell me why I'm wrong?
 
No. No. The "X" factor is the independants. The ones who just could not stomach Hillary. I'm convinced these folks would have voted for Bernie had he been the Dem nominee. The GOP love to tear down people's character. When the Dems put Warren out there all they're doing is making it easy for the GOP dirty tricksters.

No one listens to me :(

Democrats outnumber Republicans, you do know that, right?

you do know that Obama lost independents by 5 points in 2012, and still kicked Romney's ass, right?
 
Warren. I like her, but she waded into that BS about her being part Native American. There are going to be ****ing "Pocahontas" posters pasted over everything from now until 2020 when she loses.

Pick someone cool and without baggage Dems! One of the San Antonio twins, Gavin Newsom, Tulsi Gabbard, ANYONE BUT SOMEONE WITH TONS OF EASY PICKINGS LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN. Sure, whoever runs the GOP dirty tricksters will find something, but it won't be as easy as it will be with Warren.

When they tilted the scales for HRC against Bernie they totally ****ed themselves. They're about to do it again.

I feel powerless to stop it. So depressing.

You know, except for people who do not tire of rather tired-trolling of Elizabeth Warren on the right and those who despise her on the identity-driven left, I do not see how much purchase this has over the American people as a whole. Elizabeth Warren is basically a more likable, somewhat-further-to-the-left, more down-to-Earth version of Hillary Clinton. Well, forgive me, she is nothing like Hillary Clinton except that she is older, blonde white woman who is a Democrat. There the similarities end.

If she plows through, and is able to keep on trucking and shrug off the baseless attacks, sooner or later I think the snide comments are going to fade and people are actually have to discuss the issues with her, and debate her on points of principle. If the only thing conservatives have prepared against her is making fun of old references to her crab bisque entry "Pow-Wow Chow," it makes for a good zinger, it does not help get people in struggling communities job opportunities.
 
I hope the democrats are smart enough to vote for someone other than Warren in the primaries. If not the Rebublicans will get 4 more years

Finally, someone who "gets" it.
 
You have a right to your opinion. Instead of attacking me personally why don't you try to use your brain and tell me why I'm wrong?

I'd like to but your earlier responses were way too full of histrionics and CT for me to even think about doing that right now.
 
You know, except for people who do not tire of rather tired-trolling of Elizabeth Warren on the right and those who despise her on the identity-driven left, I do not see how much purchase this has over the American people as a whole. Elizabeth Warren is basically a more likable, somewhat-further-to-the-left, more down-to-Earth version of Hillary Clinton. Well, forgive me, she is nothing like Hillary Clinton except that she is older, blonde white woman who is a Democrat. There the similarities end.

If she plows through, and is able to keep on trucking and shrug off the baseless attacks, sooner or later I think the snide comments are going to fade and people are actually have to discuss the issues with her, and debate her on points of principle. If the only thing conservatives have prepared against her is making fun of old references to her crab bisque entry "Pow-Wow Chow," it makes for a good zinger, it does not help get people in struggling communities job opportunities.

Oh, you are adorable. Hillary was the true winner of every debate against trump. She is light years more qualified to be president than trump. He looked like a total dick in the debates and at all his ralllies, but Hillary was so nauseating to so many people we ended up electing trump anyway HRC had a superior resume'. We need someone who can make trump look like more of a dick in comparison, someone who is young, witty, and yes, qualified, but someone who can out trump trump. I'm telling you guys I know I'm right. 2016 was not that long ago, people!

I said before, just superior qualifications do not matter in American elections. Look who we just elected!
 
Dude, relax. You know that we are going to get a double-digit number of candidates, right?

The most prominent of the bunch are Pochahontas, Sparticus and a gal name after a professional wrestler who ignored a sexual preditor on her staff. Hen there's the Irishman that's trying to pass himself off as a Mexican and has a criminal record.

Yeah, 2020 is going to be hillarious!
 
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