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Powerful Government Accounting Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
October 26, 2005

As a legal noose appears to be tightening around the Bush/Cheney/Rove inner circle, a shocking government report shows the floor under the legitimacy of their alleged election to the White House is crumbling.

The latest critical confirmation of key indicators that the election of 2004 was stolen comes in an extremely powerful, penetrating report from the General Accounting Office that has gotten virtually no mainstream media coverage.

The government's lead investigative agency is known for its general incorruptibility and its through, in-depth analyses. Its concurrence with assertions widely dismissed as "conspiracy theories" adds crucial new weight to the case that Team Bush has no legitimate business being in the White House.

Nearly a year ago, senior Judiciary Committee Democrat John Conyers (D-MI) asked the GAO to investigate electronic voting machines as they were used during the November 2, 2004 presidential election. The request came amidst widespread complaints in Ohio and elsewhere that often shocking irregularities defined their performance.

According to CNN, the U.S. House Judiciary Committee received "more than 57,000 complaints" following Bush's alleged re-election. Many such concerns were memorialized under oath in a series of sworn statements and affidavits in public hearings and investigations conducted in Ohio by the Free Press and other election protection organizations.

The non-partisan GAO report has now found that, "some of [the] concerns about electronic voting machines have been realized and have caused problems with recent elections, resulting in the loss and miscount of votes."

The United States is the only major democracy that allows private partisan corporations to secretly count and tabulate the votes with proprietary non-transparent software. Rev. Jesse Jackson, among others, has asserted that "public elections must not be conducted on privately-owned machines." The CEO of one of the most crucial suppliers of electronic voting machines, Warren O'Dell of Diebold, pledged before the 2004 campaign to deliver Ohio and thus the presidency to George W. Bush.

Bush's official margin of victory in Ohio was just 118,775 votes out of more than 5.6 million cast. Election protection advocates argue that O'Dell's statement still stands as a clear sign of an effort, apparently successful, to steal the White House.

Among other things, the GAO confirms that:

1. Some electronic voting machines "did not encrypt cast ballots or system audit logs, and it was possible to alter both without being detected." In other words, the GAO now confirms that electronic voting machines provided an open door to flip an entire vote count. More than 800,000 votes were cast in Ohio on electronic voting machines, some seven times Bush's official margin of victory.

2. "It was possible to alter the files that define how a ballot looks and works so that the votes for one candidate could be recorded for a different candidate." Numerous sworn statements and affidavits assert that this did happen in Ohio 2004.

3. "Vendors installed uncertified versions of voting system software at the local level." 3. Falsifying election results without leaving any evidence of such an action by using altered memory cards can easily be done, according to the GAO.

4. The GAO also confirms that access to the voting network was easily compromised because not all digital recording electronic voting systems (DREs) had supervisory functions password-protected, so access to one machine provided access to the whole network. This critical finding confirms that rigging the 2004 vote did not require a "widespread conspiracy" but rather the cooperation of a very small number of operatives with the power to tap into the networked machines and thus change large numbers of votes at will. With 800,000 votes cast on electronic machines in Ohio, flipping the number needed to give Bush 118,775 could be easily done by just one programmer.

5. Access to the voting network was also compromised by repeated use of the same user IDs combined with easily guessed passwords. So even relatively amateur hackers could have gained access to and altered the Ohio vote tallies.

6. The locks protecting access to the system were easily picked and keys were simple to copy, meaning, again, getting into the system was an easy matter.

7. One DRE model was shown to have been networked in such a rudimentary fashion that a power failure on one machine would cause the entire network to fail, re-emphasizing the fragility of the system on which the Presidency of the United States was decided.

8. GAO identified further problems with the security protocols and background screening practices for vendor personnel, confirming still more easy access to the system.

In essence, the GAO study makes it clear that no bank, grocery store or mom & pop chop shop would dare operate its business on a computer system as flimsy, fragile and easily manipulated as the one on which the 2004 election turned.

The GAO findings are particularly damning when set in the context of an election run in Ohio by a Secretary of State simultaneously working as co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign. Far from what election theft skeptics have long asserted, the GAO findings confirm that the electronic network on which 800,000 Ohio votes were cast was vulnerable enough to allow a a tiny handful of operatives -- or less -- to turn the whole vote count using personal computers operating on relatively simple software.

The GAO documentation flows alongside other crucial realities surrounding the 2004 vote count. For example:


The exit polls showed Kerry winning in Ohio, until an unexplained last minute shift gave the election to Bush. Similar definitive shifts also occurred in Iowa, Nevada and New Mexico, a virtual statistical impossibility.

A few weeks prior to the election, an unauthorized former ES&S voting machine company employee, was caught on the ballot-making machine in Auglaize County

Election officials in Mahoning County now concede that at least 18 machines visibly transferred votes for Kerry to Bush. Voters who pushed Kerry's name saw Bush's name light up, again and again, all day long. Officials claim the problems were quickly solved, but sworn statements and affidavits say otherwise. They confirm similar problems in Franklin County (Columbus). Kerry's margins in both counties were suspiciously low.

A voting machine in Mahoning County recorded a negative 25 million votes for Kerry. The problem was allegedly fixed.

In Gahanna Ward 1B, at a fundamentalist church, a so-called "electronic transfer glitch" gave Bush nearly 4000 extra votes when only 638 people voted at that polling place. The tally was allegedly corrected, but remains infamous as the "loaves and fishes" vote count.

In Franklin County, dozens of voters swore under oath that their vote for Kerry faded away on the DRE without a paper trail.

In Miami County, at 1:43am after Election Day, with the county's central tabulator reporting 100% of the vote - 19,000 more votes mysteriously arrived; 13,000 were for Bush at the same percentage as prior to the additional votes, a virtual statistical impossibility.

In Cleveland, large, entirely implausible vote totals turned up for obscure third party candidates in traditional Democratic African-American wards. Vote counts in neighboring wards showed virtually no votes for those candidates, with 90% going instead for Kerry.

Prior to one of Blackwell's illegitimate "show recounts," technicians from Triad voting machine company showed up unannounced at the Hocking County Board of Elections and removed the computer hard drive.

In response to official information requests, Shelby and other counties admit to having discarded key records and equipment before any recount could take place.

In a conference call with Rev. Jackson, Attorney Cliff Arnebeck, Attorney Bob Fitrakis and others, John Kerry confirmed that he lost every precinct in New Mexico that had a touchscreen voting machine. The losses had no correlation with ethnicity, social class or traditional party affiliation---only with the fact that touchscreen machines were used.

In a public letter, Rep. Conyers has stated that "by and large, when it comes to a voting machine, the average voter is getting a lemon - the Ford Pinto of voting technology. We must demand better."

But the GAO report now confirms that electronic voting machines as deployed in 2004 were in fact perfectly engineered to allow a very small number of partisans with minimal computer skills and equipment to shift enough votes to put George W. Bush back in the White House.

Given the growing body of evidence, it appears increasingly clear that's exactly what happened.

GAO Report
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1529

Revised 10/27/05

Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman are co-authors of HOW THE GOP STOLE AMERICA'S 2004 ELECTION & IS RIGGING 2008,
available via http://freepress.org and http://harveywasserman.com. Their WHAT HAPPENED IN OHIO, with Steve Rosenfeld, will be published in Spring, 2006, by New Press.
 

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Powerful Government Accounting Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
October 26, 2005

As a legal noose appears to be tightening around the Bush/Cheney/Rove inner circle, a shocking government report shows the floor under the legitimacy of their alleged election to the White House is crumbling.

The latest critical confirmation of key indicators that the election of 2004 was stolen comes in an extremely powerful, penetrating report from the General Accounting Office that has gotten virtually no mainstream media coverage.

The government's lead investigative agency is known for its general incorruptibility and its through, in-depth analyses. Its concurrence with assertions widely dismissed as "conspiracy theories" adds crucial new weight to the case that Team Bush has no legitimate business being in the White House.

Nearly a year ago, senior Judiciary Committee Democrat John Conyers (D-MI) asked the GAO to investigate electronic voting machines as they were used during the November 2, 2004 presidential election. The request came amidst widespread complaints in Ohio and elsewhere that often shocking irregularities defined their performance.

According to CNN, the U.S. House Judiciary Committee received "more than 57,000 complaints" following Bush's alleged re-election. Many such concerns were memorialized under oath in a series of sworn statements and affidavits in public hearings and investigations conducted in Ohio by the Free Press and other election protection organizations.

The non-partisan GAO report has now found that, "some of [the] concerns about electronic voting machines have been realized and have caused problems with recent elections, resulting in the loss and miscount of votes."

The United States is the only major democracy that allows private partisan corporations to secretly count and tabulate the votes with proprietary non-transparent software. Rev. Jesse Jackson, among others, has asserted that "public elections must not be conducted on privately-owned machines." The CEO of one of the most crucial suppliers of electronic voting machines, Warren O'Dell of Diebold, pledged before the 2004 campaign to deliver Ohio and thus the presidency to George W. Bush.

Bush's official margin of victory in Ohio was just 118,775 votes out of more than 5.6 million cast. Election protection advocates argue that O'Dell's statement still stands as a clear sign of an effort, apparently successful, to steal the White House.

Among other things, the GAO confirms that:

1. Some electronic voting machines "did not encrypt cast ballots or system audit logs, and it was possible to alter both without being detected." In other words, the GAO now confirms that electronic voting machines provided an open door to flip an entire vote count. More than 800,000 votes were cast in Ohio on electronic voting machines, some seven times Bush's official margin of victory.

2. "It was possible to alter the files that define how a ballot looks and works so that the votes for one candidate could be recorded for a different candidate." Numerous sworn statements and affidavits assert that this did happen in Ohio 2004.

3. "Vendors installed uncertified versions of voting system software at the local level." 3. Falsifying election results without leaving any evidence of such an action by using altered memory cards can easily be done, according to the GAO.

4. The GAO also confirms that access to the voting network was easily compromised because not all digital recording electronic voting systems (DREs) had supervisory functions password-protected, so access to one machine provided access to the whole network. This critical finding confirms that rigging the 2004 vote did not require a "widespread conspiracy" but rather the cooperation of a very small number of operatives with the power to tap into the networked machines and thus change large numbers of votes at will. With 800,000 votes cast on electronic machines in Ohio, flipping the number needed to give Bush 118,775 could be easily done by just one programmer.

5. Access to the voting network was also compromised by repeated use of the same user IDs combined with easily guessed passwords. So even relatively amateur hackers could have gained access to and altered the Ohio vote tallies.

6. The locks protecting access to the system were easily picked and keys were simple to copy, meaning, again, getting into the system was an easy matter.

7. One DRE model was shown to have been networked in such a rudimentary fashion that a power failure on one machine would cause the entire network to fail, re-emphasizing the fragility of the system on which the Presidency of the United States was decided.

8. GAO identified further problems with the security protocols and background screening practices for vendor personnel, confirming still more easy access to the system.

In essence, the GAO study makes it clear that no bank, grocery store or mom & pop chop shop would dare operate its business on a computer system as flimsy, fragile and easily manipulated as the one on which the 2004 election turned.

The GAO findings are particularly damning when set in the context of an election run in Ohio by a Secretary of State simultaneously working as co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign. Far from what election theft skeptics have long asserted, the GAO findings confirm that the electronic network on which 800,000 Ohio votes were cast was vulnerable enough to allow a a tiny handful of operatives -- or less -- to turn the whole vote count using personal computers operating on relatively simple software.

The GAO documentation flows alongside other crucial realities surrounding the 2004 vote count. For example:


The exit polls showed Kerry winning in Ohio, until an unexplained last minute shift gave the election to Bush. Similar definitive shifts also occurred in Iowa, Nevada and New Mexico, a virtual statistical impossibility.

A few weeks prior to the election, an unauthorized former ES&S voting machine company employee, was caught on the ballot-making machine in Auglaize County

Election officials in Mahoning County now concede that at least 18 machines visibly transferred votes for Kerry to Bush. Voters who pushed Kerry's name saw Bush's name light up, again and again, all day long. Officials claim the problems were quickly solved, but sworn statements and affidavits say otherwise. They confirm similar problems in Franklin County (Columbus). Kerry's margins in both counties were suspiciously low.

A voting machine in Mahoning County recorded a negative 25 million votes for Kerry. The problem was allegedly fixed.

In Gahanna Ward 1B, at a fundamentalist church, a so-called "electronic transfer glitch" gave Bush nearly 4000 extra votes when only 638 people voted at that polling place. The tally was allegedly corrected, but remains infamous as the "loaves and fishes" vote count.

In Franklin County, dozens of voters swore under oath that their vote for Kerry faded away on the DRE without a paper trail.











Huh huh..., & isn't that just what the liberal democrat leaders WANT everybody to believe, ..as well as the fallacy that the majority endorces "liberalism"!:2razz:

These are the same no brainers, & conspiratorialists who live by spreading fiction because they cannot honestly win at the ballot box anymore, unless THEY campaign by pretending to be somebody other than themselves.

Besides, ..the democrats have been saying for years that Bush too stupid to be president, ..& he is not very intelligent, & in fact pretty dumb.

I highly doubt, ..since the democrats find him so stupid;.. that anybody Bush would appoint to help him in his coup would be capable of pulling off a high tech manipulation of the voting machines at the right place, time, & moment.

Fitrakis, & Wasserman are in denial, as most whacko liberals are, & are simply bitter because their fellow political liberal ideologists are simply; "shyte out of luck"...& still have well, .."nothing" ! Huh huh.:smile:
 
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Those are all very interesting points, but liberals have been screaming that **** since day one. Nothing will ever come of this because either the Republicans in Congress will drown it like a puppy or the administration will vilify the GAO so badly not even Jesus will forgive their sins.
 

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I would not believe anything that is published and so many people are gullable and do believe. Anyone can write a false publication and come off as true.
 

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Originally posted by AK_Conservative:
I would not believe anything that is published and so many people are gullable and do believe. Anyone can write a false publication and come off as true.
What makes you think it was a false publication?
 

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Here's a clue: Why doesn't anyone read the ACTUAL GAO report, rather than the incredibly biased and misleading editorialized version.

Some excerpts from the report:

Commissioners expressed concern that the report portrays voting system problems as systemic, but does not provide context for evaluating the extent of the problems—that is, how frequently these issues arise or whether the problems occur in a large percentage of electronic voting systems or jurisdictions. We do not agree that we portray the problems as systemic. Our report states that many of the issues involved specific voting system makes and models or circumstances in the elections of specific jurisdictions, and that there is a lack of consensus on the pervasiveness of the concerns. This is due in part to a lack of comprehensive information on what system makes and models are used in jurisdictions throughout the country.


Third, commissioners expressed concern that our report relies on reports produced by others without substantiation of the claims made in those reports, and provides specific examples that they felt should be verified with election officials.
The entire report's point is to highlight what COULD have been problems, and then offer up every single possible doomsday scenario so that they can be addressed in the next major election cycle. It's not saying that any of this actually happened, just that there were occasional reports, which were not verified.

If you want to look at places where there was actual DOCUMENTED election fraud....

http://releases.usnewswire.com/printing.asp?id=51235

In a report released today, the American Center for Voting Rights Legislative Fund ("ACVR Legislative Fund") identifies Philadelphia as the number one election fraud "hot spot" in America. The report, "Vote Fraud, Intimidation & Suppression In The 2004 Presidential Election," is the most comprehensive and authoritative review of the facts surrounding allegations of vote fraud, intimidation and suppression made during the 2004 presidential election. The report lists the top five election fraud "hot spots" in the country based on its findings and the cities' documented history of fraud and intimidation. ACVR Legislative Fund calls for immediate attention to these areas.
Five biggest voting fraud hot-spots?

1. Philadelphia
2. Milwaukee
3. Seattle
4. St. Louis/East St. Louis
5. Cleveland

Every one of those places is heavily DEMOCRATIC leaning.

The incidents of fraud cited by the non-partisan ACVR?

-- Republican volunteers violently intimidated by union members, who assaulted the volunteers' vehicle and chased them in traffic.

-- At least 15 new registrants found to be deceased.

-- Many addresses listed for new registrants were in fact vacant lots and boarded-up buildings.

-- Polling places located in local bars, unsafe abandoned buildings, district office of Democrat state Sen. Vincent Fumo and private home decorated with Kerry sign in window.

-- 43 polling locations inaccessible to the handicapped and 17 in businesses or homes where voters could be intimidated.

-- ACT and MoveOn illegally distributed and collected absentee ballots from prison inmates in at least one Philadelphia prison, according to news reports.

-- City voter rolls nearly matched census estimates of the voting-age population.

-- ACORN reportedly put inaccurate information on voter registration forms.
Hmmmmm, looks like all those are events of fraud perpetrated by the left! Interesting!

I was in Philadelphia working during the final weekend before the 2004 election, and I can tell you first hand that the tactics I saw perpetrated by Kerry supporters (or more accurately labeled, Bush-haters, not many people liked Kerry) were straight up illegal.

Rather than looking into whether Bush really won Ohio, we should be looking into whether Kerry really won PA...
 

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Aaaaaaand, I just spent 20 minutes responding to a banned canuckclone.

great.
 

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RightatNYU said:
Here's a clue: Why doesn't anyone read the ACTUAL GAO report, rather than the incredibly biased and misleading editorialized version.

Some excerpts from the report:



The entire report's point is to highlight what COULD have been problems, and then offer up every single possible doomsday scenario so that they can be addressed in the next major election cycle. It's not saying that any of this actually happened, just that there were occasional reports, which were not verified.

If you want to look at places where there was actual DOCUMENTED election fraud....

http://releases.usnewswire.com/printing.asp?id=51235



Five biggest voting fraud hot-spots?

1. Philadelphia
2. Milwaukee
3. Seattle
4. St. Louis/East St. Louis
5. Cleveland

Every one of those places is heavily DEMOCRATIC leaning.

The incidents of fraud cited by the non-partisan ACVR?



Hmmmmm, looks like all those are events of fraud perpetrated by the left! Interesting!

I was in Philadelphia working during the final weekend before the 2004 election, and I can tell you first hand that the tactics I saw perpetrated by Kerry supporters (or more accurately labeled, Bush-haters, not many people liked Kerry) were straight up illegal.

Rather than looking into whether Bush really won Ohio, we should be looking into whether Kerry really won PA...
How do you think I feel?...I live here!
 

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cnredd said:
How do you think I feel?...I live here!
And I truly pity you.

Except for WaWa's, in which case I envy you.
 

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And I truly pity you.

Except for WaWa's, in which case I envy you.
I haven't been to a Wawa since....3:30AM!...

Got done work and stopped in there to "tap MAC" and get smokes...then off to Dunkin' Donuts for a coffee...and here I am!...:2wave:
 

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cnredd said:
I haven't been to a Wawa since....3:30AM!...

Got done work and stopped in there to "tap MAC" and get smokes...then off to Dunkin' Donuts for a coffee...and here I am!...:2wave:
And after you get your coffee, step out one door, into another and Vioala, coffee and Baskin Robbins ice cream and smokes... the best meal in the world. :lol:
 

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I haven't been to a Wawa since....3:30AM!...

Got done work and stopped in there to "tap MAC" and get smokes...then off to Dunkin' Donuts for a coffee...and here I am!...:2wave:
Is the term "tap MAC" local or national?
 

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The only election fraud is when I fraudulently elected to be your ****ing pimp, when in fact i was your ****ing father. **** me. Worship me.
 

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President.Bush said:
The only election fraud is when I fraudulently elected to be your ****ing pimp, when in fact i was your ****ing father. **** me. Worship me.
Completely unnecessary. Take it to the basement.
 

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Completely unnecessary. Take it to the basement.
Completely unnecessary. The guy is banned. :rofl

Seriously, from what I have read, there was election fraud in Ohio, but after taking that into account, Bush still wins. The amount of fraud was not enough to offset Bush's margin of victory there if fraudulent votes were not counted.
 

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WTF is a Wawa?
a delicious convenience store type thing that has amazingly good food.

mostly a south jerz/philly phenomenon
 

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Stu Ghatze said:
gordon said:
Departments
Election 2004

Powerful Government Accounting Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
October 26, 2005

As a legal noose appears to be tightening around the Bush/Cheney/Rove inner circle, a shocking government report shows the floor under the legitimacy of their alleged election to the White House is crumbling.

The latest critical confirmation of key indicators that the election of 2004 was stolen comes in an extremely powerful, penetrating report from the General Accounting Office that has gotten virtually no mainstream media coverage.

The government's lead investigative agency is known for its general incorruptibility and its through, in-depth analyses. Its concurrence with assertions widely dismissed as "conspiracy theories" adds crucial new weight to the case that Team Bush has no legitimate business being in the White House.

Nearly a year ago, senior Judiciary Committee Democrat John Conyers (D-MI) asked the GAO to investigate electronic voting machines as they were used during the November 2, 2004 presidential election. The request came amidst widespread complaints in Ohio and elsewhere that often shocking irregularities defined their performance.

According to CNN, the U.S. House Judiciary Committee received "more than 57,000 complaints" following Bush's alleged re-election. Many such concerns were memorialized under oath in a series of sworn statements and affidavits in public hearings and investigations conducted in Ohio by the Free Press and other election protection organizations.

The non-partisan GAO report has now found that, "some of [the] concerns about electronic voting machines have been realized and have caused problems with recent elections, resulting in the loss and miscount of votes."

The United States is the only major democracy that allows private partisan corporations to secretly count and tabulate the votes with proprietary non-transparent software. Rev. Jesse Jackson, among others, has asserted that "public elections must not be conducted on privately-owned machines." The CEO of one of the most crucial suppliers of electronic voting machines, Warren O'Dell of Diebold, pledged before the 2004 campaign to deliver Ohio and thus the presidency to George W. Bush.

Bush's official margin of victory in Ohio was just 118,775 votes out of more than 5.6 million cast. Election protection advocates argue that O'Dell's statement still stands as a clear sign of an effort, apparently successful, to steal the White House.

Among other things, the GAO confirms that:

1. Some electronic voting machines "did not encrypt cast ballots or system audit logs, and it was possible to alter both without being detected." In other words, the GAO now confirms that electronic voting machines provided an open door to flip an entire vote count. More than 800,000 votes were cast in Ohio on electronic voting machines, some seven times Bush's official margin of victory.

2. "It was possible to alter the files that define how a ballot looks and works so that the votes for one candidate could be recorded for a different candidate." Numerous sworn statements and affidavits assert that this did happen in Ohio 2004.

3. "Vendors installed uncertified versions of voting system software at the local level." 3. Falsifying election results without leaving any evidence of such an action by using altered memory cards can easily be done, according to the GAO.

4. The GAO also confirms that access to the voting network was easily compromised because not all digital recording electronic voting systems (DREs) had supervisory functions password-protected, so access to one machine provided access to the whole network. This critical finding confirms that rigging the 2004 vote did not require a "widespread conspiracy" but rather the cooperation of a very small number of operatives with the power to tap into the networked machines and thus change large numbers of votes at will. With 800,000 votes cast on electronic machines in Ohio, flipping the number needed to give Bush 118,775 could be easily done by just one programmer.

5. Access to the voting network was also compromised by repeated use of the same user IDs combined with easily guessed passwords. So even relatively amateur hackers could have gained access to and altered the Ohio vote tallies.

6. The locks protecting access to the system were easily picked and keys were simple to copy, meaning, again, getting into the system was an easy matter.

7. One DRE model was shown to have been networked in such a rudimentary fashion that a power failure on one machine would cause the entire network to fail, re-emphasizing the fragility of the system on which the Presidency of the United States was decided.

8. GAO identified further problems with the security protocols and background screening practices for vendor personnel, confirming still more easy access to the system.

In essence, the GAO study makes it clear that no bank, grocery store or mom & pop chop shop would dare operate its business on a computer system as flimsy, fragile and easily manipulated as the one on which the 2004 election turned.

The GAO findings are particularly damning when set in the context of an election run in Ohio by a Secretary of State simultaneously working as co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign. Far from what election theft skeptics have long asserted, the GAO findings confirm that the electronic network on which 800,000 Ohio votes were cast was vulnerable enough to allow a a tiny handful of operatives -- or less -- to turn the whole vote count using personal computers operating on relatively simple software.

The GAO documentation flows alongside other crucial realities surrounding the 2004 vote count. For example:


The exit polls showed Kerry winning in Ohio, until an unexplained last minute shift gave the election to Bush. Similar definitive shifts also occurred in Iowa, Nevada and New Mexico, a virtual statistical impossibility.

A few weeks prior to the election, an unauthorized former ES&S voting machine company employee, was caught on the ballot-making machine in Auglaize County

Election officials in Mahoning County now concede that at least 18 machines visibly transferred votes for Kerry to Bush. Voters who pushed Kerry's name saw Bush's name light up, again and again, all day long. Officials claim the problems were quickly solved, but sworn statements and affidavits say otherwise. They confirm similar problems in Franklin County (Columbus). Kerry's margins in both counties were suspiciously low.

A voting machine in Mahoning County recorded a negative 25 million votes for Kerry. The problem was allegedly fixed.

In Gahanna Ward 1B, at a fundamentalist church, a so-called "electronic transfer glitch" gave Bush nearly 4000 extra votes when only 638 people voted at that polling place. The tally was allegedly corrected, but remains infamous as the "loaves and fishes" vote count.

In Franklin County, dozens of voters swore under oath that their vote for Kerry faded away on the DRE without a paper trail.











Huh huh..., & isn't that just what the liberal democrat leaders WANT everybody to believe, ..as well as the fallacy that the majority endorces "liberalism"!:2razz:

These are the same no brainers, & conspiratorialists who live by spreading fiction because they cannot honestly win at the ballot box anymore, unless THEY campaign by pretending to be somebody other than themselves.

Besides, ..the democrats have been saying for years that Bush too stupid to be president, ..& he is not very intelligent, & in fact pretty dumb.

I highly doubt, ..since the democrats find him so stupid;.. that anybody Bush would appoint to help him in his coup would be capable of pulling off a high tech manipulation of the voting machines at the right place, time, & moment.

Fitrakis, & Wasserman are in denial, as most whacko liberals are, & are simply bitter because their fellow political liberal ideologists are simply; "shyte out of luck"...& still have well, .."nothing" ! Huh huh.:smile:
it is not the democrats it is your GOVT. body GAO
it has determined that there was election frauds
in Ohio
and other places
America is a Banana Republic
For many Americans this is unexceptable
so they bury their heads up their arses
and refuse to see the truth they wear blinders
they are the fools who have allowed freedom to wither and blindly proclaim America is free
The days of Freedom ringing in America is over
No wonder Vermont is moving to secede from the Union
Vermonters are common sense people they dont hide behind tyranny and proclaim they are still free they see the truth and dont want any part of it
the boneheads and harlots that are too arrogant to see the truth for what it is will be left with their mouths agape when the big one comes to down town USA they still scratch their heads and wonder why do they hate us so
the boneheads dont understand the reason you are hated around the world because they dont see the truth they only believe in lies
stay tuned for shock and awe arab style
only a matter of time
 

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Canuck said:
Stu Ghatze said:
it is not the democrats it is your GOVT. body GAO
it has determined that there was election frauds
in Ohio
and other places
America is a Banana Republic
For many Americans this is unexceptable
so they bury their heads up their arses
and refuse to see the truth they wear blinders
they are the fools who have allowed freedom to wither and blindly proclaim America is free
The days of Freedom ringing in America is over
No wonder Vermont is moving to secede from the Union
Vermonters are common sense people they dont hide behind tyranny and proclaim they are still free they see the truth and dont want any part of it
the boneheads and harlots that are too arrogant to see the truth for what it is will be left with their mouths agape when the big one comes to down town USA they still scratch their heads and wonder why do they hate us so
the boneheads dont understand the reason you are hated around the world because they dont see the truth they only believe in lies
stay tuned for shock and awe arab style
only a matter of time
Okay, this has gone too far. Aside from the fact that you're still posting drivel, you're responding to posts that you posted under a different username while banned. That's a clear violation under the forum rules.

11. Multiple accounts - Multiple accounts of the same user will not be tolerated and you will be banned.**

Fare thee well, canuck, we hardly knew ye.
 

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cnredd said:
Is the term "tap MAC" local or national?
RightatNYU said:
Never heard of it. whats it mean?
It means nothing more than "I had to use the MAC(ATM) machine to withdrawal money"...:2wave:

In my "circles", it's understood when someone says, "I went to Wawa to tap MAC so I could get some smokes"...

I didn't know how far-reaching that phrase was...

Apparently, not that far...:shrug:

Start it up while you're up there...Let's make it national!...:2wave:
 
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This should be a bipartisan issue.

There is tremendous possibility for abuse on both sides here. To prove how easy it is to hack into these machines Howard Dean did it on live TV in a just a few minutes. I don't want the Dems to win by cheating and I think my friends in the Republican camp would feel the same way. There is a sense in America that our votes are not counted correctly. It can and must be corrected.
 

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hipsterdufus said:
This should be a bipartisan issue.

There is tremendous possibility for abuse on both sides here. To prove how easy it is to hack into these machines Howard Dean did it on live TV in a just a few minutes. I don't want the Dems to win by cheating and I think my friends in the Republican camp would feel the same way. There is a sense in America that our votes are not counted correctly. It can and must be corrected.
Very much agreed.
 
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hipsterdufus said:
This should be a bipartisan issue.

There is tremendous possibility for abuse on both sides here. To prove how easy it is to hack into these machines Howard Dean did it on live TV in a just a few minutes. I don't want the Dems to win by cheating and I think my friends in the Republican camp would feel the same way. There is a sense in America that our votes are not counted correctly. It can and must be corrected.
true, I don't believe there was massive election frauds as some of the conspiratorial theorists on the left would have you believe, however, I do feel that there should be a paper trail to avoid any of these accusations from either side and to avoid possible abuses of the system by hackers or something like that.
 

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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
true, I don't believe there was massive election frauds as some of the conspiratorial theorists on the left would have you believe, however, I do feel that there should be a paper trail to avoid any of these accusations from either side and to avoid possible abuses of the system by hackers or something like that.
Exactly, it would force the left to get more creative when coming up for an explanation for when they lose in 2008
 
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