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Egypt's Sinai Emerges as New Theater for Jihad.....

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Well.....everyone did keep saying it would spread beyond Syria. I think we now have an answer as to that fact. Now what do we do to prevent this from becoming a full fledged front against Israel? The Egyptian military doesn't want to attack as then that will bring in all the Bedouin. Plus now there hundreds of Yemenis in Egypt's Sinai. Plus another Jihadi front from the Nile River to the to North Africa's Atlantic Coast.



An Egyptian doctor once close to Osama bin Laden is bringing together multiple al-Qaida-inspired militant groups in Egypt's Sinai to fight the country's military, as the lawless peninsula emerges as a new theater for jihad, according to Egyptian intelligence and security officials.

There have been other signs of a dangerous shift in the longtime turmoil in the peninsula bordering Israel and the Gaza Strip since the military's July 3 ouster of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi, the officials say. With the shifts, Sinai's instability is becoming more regionalized and threatens to turn into an outright insurgency.

Sinai has seen an influx of foreign fighters over the past two months, including several hundred Yemenis. Several militant groups that long operated in the area to establish an Islamic Caliphate and attack their traditional enemy Israel have joined others in declaring formally that their objective now is to battle Egypt's military.

Also, Sinai has become the focus of attention among major regional jihadi groups. A leader of al-Qaida's Iraqi branch, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, last weekend called on Egyptians to fight the military, as did al-Qaida's top leader, Ayman al-Zawahri. The militant considered the most dangerous man in the Sahara — one-eyed terror leader Moktar Belmoktar, a former member of al-Qaida's North

An Egyptian court in June last year accused Mawafi, along with Morsi and other Muslim Brotherhood members of conspiring with Hamas and Hezbollah to orchestrate the 2011 break from Wadi Natroun prison. The court described Mawafi as "the secretary general of al-Qaida in Sinai."

The number of jihadi groups operating in Sinai's rugged, mountainous deserts has mushroomed over recent years, believed to have thousands of fighters.

Some are mainly Egyptian, such as Ansar Jerusalem — thought to include Egyptians from outside Sinai — and the Shura Council of Mujahedeen of Environs of Jerusalem — which is mostly Sinai locals — and the Salafi Jihadi group. Among Sinai's population, there has been a growing movement of "Takfiris," who reject as heretical anyone who does not adhere to their strict interpretation of Islam. While not all Takfiris are involved in armed action, their ideology makes them an easy pool for armed groups to draw from.

Other groups are based in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, such as the Islam Army and Jaljalat, which are believed to send fighters into Sinai.

Some groups were oriented toward fighting Israel, occasionally firing rockets across the border. Others attacked Egyptian security forces, usually in retaliation for arrests or out of the deep-seeded resentment of the police among Sinai's population. In the aftermath of Mubarak's fall in 2011, a group attacked police stations and drove security forces out of the border towns, declaring the area an Islamic Caliphate. Many of them were later tried and sentenced to death.

Now multiple groups are overtly calling for "jihad" against Egypt's military.

Several hundred Yemeni fighters came in after Morsi's ouster in response to religious edicts by clerics back home urging them to fight jihad in Egypt, according to a Yemeni security official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the press. Al-Qaida in Yemen, known as al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, is considered the most active branch of the terror network.

The Egyptian officials say fighters have also come from Saudi Arabia, Libya and Syria

From North Africa, the militant leader Belmoktar and a Mali jihadi group announced last month that they aim to form a jihadi front from the River Nile to North Africa's Atlantic coast.....snip~

Egypt's Sinai emerges as new theater for jihad
 

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Let's hope they stay 40 years.
 

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Let's hope they stay 40 years.
Well that Doctor is 61 years old.....I don't think he will make it. :lol: Plus I am not so certain the Egyptians want the Yemenis there for another 40 years.
 

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Well that Doctor is 61 years old.....I don't think he will make it. :lol: Plus I am not so certain the Egyptians want the Yemenis there for another 40 years.
I figure none of the 'em make it 30.
 

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I figure none of the 'em make it 30.
Still this is not good for Israel or Egypt.....which if the Egyptian Military cannot respond then this Jihad will go unchecked and the numbers will grow even quciker. Moreover you can see they are pushing towards the Atlantic Coast with the other front.
 

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Still this is not good for Israel or Egypt.....which if the Egyptian Military cannot respond then this Jihad will go unchecked and the numbers will grow even quciker. Moreover you can see they are pushing towards the Atlantic Coast with the other front.
The bad guys being cornered in a V with water on all sides and capable countries at each exit, in a desert, is good for them? By Old Testament standards, it's a doubting of God.
 

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The bad guys being cornered in a V with water on all sides and capable countries at each exit, in a desert, is good for them? By Old Testament standards, it's a doubting of God.
Yeah, that's what he said too. ;)


Course neither expected man to find the tree of knowledge either.
 

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Some are mainly Egyptian, such as Ansar Jerusalem — thought to include Egyptians from outside Sinai — and the Shura Council of Mujahedeen of Environs of Jerusalem — which is mostly Sinai locals — and the Salafi Jihadi group. Among Sinai's population, there has been a growing movement of "Takfiris," who reject as heretical anyone who does not adhere to their strict interpretation of Islam. While not all Takfiris are involved in armed action, their ideology makes them an easy pool for armed groups to draw from.

Other groups are based in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, such as the Islam Army and Jaljalat, which are believed to send fighters into Sinai.....snip~

So.....do any think this Jihad front here will come into more play once the attack takes place on Syria? You don't think all of these Foreign Fighters are in Egypt for nothing now do you?
 

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1. The Egyptian military has a heavy incentive to play up the "jihadi" faction of the militants in the Sinai. "Bedouins taking advantage" shouldn't be ignored.

2. What Islamist resistance is there isn't an extension of Syria, but rather of the Muslim Brotherhood losing power, and being pushed out of the political process and into resistance.

3. And Hamas in Gaza. Which brings us to

4. Long term, this could be a good thing, as it gives the SCAF a solid incentive to shut down the Gaza/Sinai smuggling routes and networks. However:

5. Short term, it could be rough, especially if they are successful in hitting a ship transiting the Canal.
 

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So.....do any think this Jihad front here will come into more play once the attack takes place on Syria? You don't think all of these Foreign Fighters are in Egypt for nothing now do you?
What, of course they are? They are merely resting there! They have the sun and the sea for a great beach vacation. They just happened to be Jihadi's and armed at it too!
 

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1. The Egyptian military has a heavy incentive to play up the "jihadi" faction of the militants in the Sinai. "Bedouins taking advantage" shouldn't be ignored.

2. What Islamist resistance is there isn't an extension of Syria, but rather of the Muslim Brotherhood losing power, and being pushed out of the political process and into resistance.

3. And Hamas in Gaza. Which brings us to

4. Long term, this could be a good thing, as it gives the SCAF a solid incentive to shut down the Gaza/Sinai smuggling routes and networks. However:

5. Short term, it could be rough, especially if they are successful in hitting a ship transiting the Canal.


Mornin CPW :2wave: .....yes. that would be the major Concern that that could affect traffic in the Suez. Also they could go after Israel. Which I think will happen after all see what takes place in Syria. Then Hezbollah and some of these guys may bust a move.
 

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What, of course they are? They are merely resting there! They have the sun and the sea for a great beach vacation. They just happened to be Jihadi's and armed at it too!
Good day DDD. :2wave: Yeah.....fun in the sun. ;) Sand Surfing. :lol: I thought the Hundreds of Yemenis would grab the attention. Then Ansar Al Jerusalem.

Plus we know it has spilled into Iraq with what they already had going on.

Moreover if the Egyptian Military does nothing. Their numbers will grow. Plus like the piece stated. It doesn't even count the Bedouin.
 

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Mornin CPW :2wave: .....yes. that would be the major Concern that that could affect traffic in the Suez. Also they could go after Israel. Which I think will happen after all see what takes place in Syria. Then Hezbollah and some of these guys may bust a move.
:D Good evening.

Israel, I am less worried about. SCAF and Israel now have common enemies. The Enemy of My Enemy Is My Freinemey is nowhere better practiced than the Middle East.

Hezbollah has poured a lot of resources into fighting the rebel front. The stakes would have to be pretty high for them to roll the dice on bringing in another enemy in the form of a punitive campaign by Israel. I'm not saying it's impossible or even implausible - but don't forget to look at it from their angle.
 

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Well, most of the countries that got liberated are experiencing resistance. Hopefully they will contain it and win their democracies and freedom from religion.
 

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Obama is bound and determined to prove that Bush was actually competent in foreign policy.

Imagine if these guys take control of the Suez canal....
 

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I think this build up is a reflection of the lack of power of the Military due to the current political firestorm. It's a pimple today and will be a festering sore soon. Somebody gonna have to bomb everybody or feed everybody or organize them into productive fury. Yep! Somebody gonna be swallowing a turd.
 

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Obama is bound and determined to prove that Bush was actually competent in foreign policy.

Imagine if these guys take control of the Suez canal....
Heya JM :2wave: .....not only control. But just to disrupt any flow. Would start costing money. I doubt the Egyptian Military will wait for anything like that to happen. That's the money maker.
 

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I think this build up is a reflection of the lack of power of the Military due to the current political firestorm. It's a pimple today and will be a festering sore soon. Somebody gonna have to bomb everybody or feed everybody or organize them into productive fury. Yep! Somebody gonna be swallowing a turd.
Heya DF. :2wave: Not to mention the Egyptian Military will still have to take on the MB, and Inside Egypt proper.
 

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Welcome to the run up to global war. It all seems isolated and small, but this is how it starts.

As my old history teacher once joked when a fellow student seemed dumbfounded by the blindness leading up to World War I: "You have to understand something... contrary to your textbook, the lead up to war didn't happen over the course of two pages."
 

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Well.....everyone did keep saying it would spread beyond Syria. I think we now have an answer as to that fact. Now what do we do to prevent this from becoming a full fledged front against Israel? The Egyptian military doesn't want to attack as then that will bring in all the Bedouin. Plus now there hundreds of Yemenis in Egypt's Sinai. Plus another Jihadi front from the Nile River to the to North Africa's Atlantic Coast.



An Egyptian doctor once close to Osama bin Laden is bringing together multiple al-Qaida-inspired militant groups in Egypt's Sinai to fight the country's military, as the lawless peninsula emerges as a new theater for jihad, according to Egyptian intelligence and security officials.

There have been other signs of a dangerous shift in the longtime turmoil in the peninsula bordering Israel and the Gaza Strip since the military's July 3 ouster of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi, the officials say. With the shifts, Sinai's instability is becoming more regionalized and threatens to turn into an outright insurgency.

Sinai has seen an influx of foreign fighters over the past two months, including several hundred Yemenis. Several militant groups that long operated in the area to establish an Islamic Caliphate and attack their traditional enemy Israel have joined others in declaring formally that their objective now is to battle Egypt's military.

Also, Sinai has become the focus of attention among major regional jihadi groups. A leader of al-Qaida's Iraqi branch, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, last weekend called on Egyptians to fight the military, as did al-Qaida's top leader, Ayman al-Zawahri. The militant considered the most dangerous man in the Sahara — one-eyed terror leader Moktar Belmoktar, a former member of al-Qaida's North

An Egyptian court in June last year accused Mawafi, along with Morsi and other Muslim Brotherhood members of conspiring with Hamas and Hezbollah to orchestrate the 2011 break from Wadi Natroun prison. The court described Mawafi as "the secretary general of al-Qaida in Sinai."

The number of jihadi groups operating in Sinai's rugged, mountainous deserts has mushroomed over recent years, believed to have thousands of fighters.

Some are mainly Egyptian, such as Ansar Jerusalem — thought to include Egyptians from outside Sinai — and the Shura Council of Mujahedeen of Environs of Jerusalem — which is mostly Sinai locals — and the Salafi Jihadi group. Among Sinai's population, there has been a growing movement of "Takfiris," who reject as heretical anyone who does not adhere to their strict interpretation of Islam. While not all Takfiris are involved in armed action, their ideology makes them an easy pool for armed groups to draw from.

Other groups are based in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, such as the Islam Army and Jaljalat, which are believed to send fighters into Sinai.

Some groups were oriented toward fighting Israel, occasionally firing rockets across the border. Others attacked Egyptian security forces, usually in retaliation for arrests or out of the deep-seeded resentment of the police among Sinai's population. In the aftermath of Mubarak's fall in 2011, a group attacked police stations and drove security forces out of the border towns, declaring the area an Islamic Caliphate. Many of them were later tried and sentenced to death.

Now multiple groups are overtly calling for "jihad" against Egypt's military.

Several hundred Yemeni fighters came in after Morsi's ouster in response to religious edicts by clerics back home urging them to fight jihad in Egypt, according to a Yemeni security official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the press. Al-Qaida in Yemen, known as al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, is considered the most active branch of the terror network.

The Egyptian officials say fighters have also come from Saudi Arabia, Libya and Syria

From North Africa, the militant leader Belmoktar and a Mali jihadi group announced last month that they aim to form a jihadi front from the River Nile to North Africa's Atlantic coast.....snip~

Egypt's Sinai emerges as new theater for jihad
Islamist violence and terrorism have been a feature of the Sinai for years, intensifying with the fall of Mubarak. This predates the conflict in Syria. Fortunately the Sinai is not exactly the best region for a long term high intensity jihadist campaign.
 

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Islamist violence and terrorism have been a feature of the Sinai for years, intensifying with the fall of Mubarak. This predates the conflict in Syria. Fortunately the Sinai is not exactly the best region for a long term high intensity jihadist campaign.
Yes that's true with the MB Sherman.....but now it is a bit different with hundreds of Yemenis coming on down for Jihad and whats behind Door Number 2.
 

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Egypt launches offensive against Sinai militants
Associated Press – 56 mins ago

Egyptian helicopter gunships and tanks pounded suspected hideouts of Islamic militants in the northern Sinai Peninsula on Saturday in a major new offensive in the insurgent stronghold, officials said. The assault came after a long column of armored vehicles and trucks poured into the targeted areas in what residents said was one of the largest operations there in years.

Meanwhile, the country's prosecutor general filed new charges against deposed President Mohammed Morsi of having insulted the country's judiciary.

A security official said "dozens" of insurgent suspects were killed and wounded in the Sinai offensive, which comes two days after a failed suicide bombing targeting the country's top policeman in Cairo. Smoke could be seen rising from the towns of Rafah and Sheikh Zuweyid, and troops set up a cordon to prevent militants from escaping as others combed the area, he said.

The northern Sinai, which adjoins Israel and the Gaza Strip, has long been a haven for militants including al-Qaida-inspired groups. Attacks have spiked in the Sinai since Morsi's July 3 ouster, prompting the latest army offensive.

"This is by far the largest operation we have seen and the one we have been waiting for," said Sheikh Hassan Khalaf, a tribal leader from al-Joura, one of 12 targeted villages in the area. "Starting today, you will not hear of attacks on army or police checkpoints as before. They either have to flee or get arrested," he added.....snip~

Egypt launches offensive against Sinai militants

Alright Egypt.....way to step up to the plate and go after all those AQ types and On Israel's Flank. :rock

See the Egyptian Military has it Right. Cover Israel's Back door and hit these bastards Right before 911. Smart move. That ought to disrupt some of their plans.
 

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Yes that's true with the MB Sherman.....but now it is a bit different with hundreds of Yemenis coming on down for Jihad and whats behind Door Number 2.
Yep. Mubarak was a secular dictator and with power firmly in his hands, there was little to nothing islamists organizations could do, off the grid as it were.
Now that mubarak is gone, Morsi opened the door to islamist fanatics and lo and behold in 1 year time, or a bit over 1 year, the Sinai region which covers almost 1/3rd of Egypt's size, is turning into a islamic military zone. It's amazing how quickly such organizations can creep in and take roots.

Without foreign intervention, I don't think the Egyptian military can handle the islamists.

Sinai is a prize worth fighting for. Rich oil fields, the potential to get in on the tarriffs action for the Suez. My bet is that Saudi Arabia will be sponsoring the jihadists like their life would depend on it.
 

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Now that mubarak is gone, Morsi opened the door to islamist fanatics and lo and behold in 1 year time, or a bit over 1 year, the Sinai region which covers almost 1/3rd of Egypt's size, is turning into a islamic military zone.
Really Morsi did? But i thought this insurgency started after he was ousted by a military coup in fact i think he negotiated with them to not harm military personal. Well anyway it's awfully convenient for the current regime as it will allow them to take extreme measures to eliminate all "threats" to their leadership.
Without foreign intervention, I don't think the Egyptian military can handle the islamists.
You don't think one of the largest and best equipped militaries in the M.E. can handle the thousands of insurgents? What kind of opinion pieces have you been listening to? They've handled two revolutions already i'm sure they'll be fine but of course they'll "need" foreign aid if they are to stop their created crisis. So it goes.
My bet is that Saudi Arabia will be sponsoring the jihadists like their life would depend on it.
That's pretty nonsensical considering the Saudis were praising the military takeover and disliked Morsi's admin. Can you tell me how it benefits them at all?
 
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