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Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure

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A Tennessee newspaper editor who was fired for a headline critical of President Obama says his bosses bowed to pressure from the president's supporters, claiming he wouldn't have been canned if he had said the same of former President George W. Bush.
Read more: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure | Fox News



the lefts war on freedom of speech and press

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I believe in free speech as long as I agree with that speech
I believe in freedom of the press as long as they are not critical of me
I believe in the freedom to protest as long as you don't protest me
I believe in free expression as long as you express my views
 

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Well now that he's had a national platform I'm sure Fox News might hire him.
 

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Read more: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure | Fox News



the lefts war on freedom of speech and press

The liberal manifesto
I believe in free speech as long as I agree with that speech
I believe in freedom of the press as long as they are not critical of me
I believe in the freedom to protest as long as you don't protest me
I believe in free expression as long as you express my views
Or con-libs, who say "Business owners should be able to hire and fire whoever and whenever and for whatever reason they damn well want to...unless it's a guy who's critical of Obama."
 

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Read more: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure | Fox News

the lefts war on freedom of speech and press

The liberal manifesto
I believe in free speech as long as I agree with that speech
I believe in freedom of the press as long as they are not critical of me
I believe in the freedom to protest as long as you don't protest me
I believe in free expression as long as you express my views
Perhaps it's other people's failure to follow the rules. There was a system in place to title editorials. This guy decided to circumvent it. Bad boy.

In the Chicago Tribune, Letters to the Editor, the one thing the writer doesn't have control of is the headline for the opinion. Makes sense to me. Should most certainly have made sense to him.
 

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Having seen the title of the editorial, I'd have to say that it's in poor taste for the editorial page of a newspaper that considers itself serious. I think the President is a disaster, but having the media pulpit and telling the President of your country to "shove it" is a little over the line.

This isn't a free speech issue - it's an employee conduct issue. The fired editor is free now to say whatever he likes about President Obama and not have his words speak for his former employer. Any person employed by another can be fired if their conduct crosses what is included in morality clauses and codes of conduct. Maybe he should have checked with his boss, or the owners of the paper, before he authorized the headline. Then, if they had approved, he'd still have his job or a good wrongful dismissal case.
 

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Yep, sounds like Obama's Goons bullied a Newspaper into firing a honest man.

The people that live in that area need to start cancelling their subscriptions en mass.
 

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Read more: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure | Fox News



the lefts war on freedom of speech and press

The liberal manifesto
I believe in free speech as long as I agree with that speech
I believe in freedom of the press as long as they are not critical of me
I believe in the freedom to protest as long as you don't protest me
I believe in free expression as long as you express my views
Please learn what freedom of speech and the press mean. Hint: it involved what the government can do.
 

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Yep, sounds like Obama's Goons bullied a Newspaper into firing a honest man.

The people that live in that area need to start cancelling their subscriptions en mass.
Oh, come on. Do you really think the White House contacted this newspaper? Please. You're a Conservative. Don't you believe in following the policies of your job??
 

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Oh, come on. Do you really think the White House contacted this newspaper? Please. You're a Conservative. Don't you believe in following the policies of your job??
But in an interview with Fox News, Johnson said that policy -- requiring that last-minute changes to headlines be approved -- was only implemented after they published his piece

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for other words Maggie they did make the policy till after the piece was published
 

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Read more: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure | Fox News



the lefts war on freedom of speech and press

The liberal manifesto
I believe in free speech as long as I agree with that speech
I believe in freedom of the press as long as they are not critical of me
I believe in the freedom to protest as long as you don't protest me
I believe in free expression as long as you express my views
The 1st Amendment is a contract between the Government and the people. It does not say a private concern cannot fire someone for what they say. It's done all the time, wake up and smell the coffee.
 

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Yep, sounds like Obama's Goons bullied a Newspaper...
the article does make it sound like that.
A closer reading makes it seem that these "goons" were subscribers.
 

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The 1st Amendment is a contract between the Government and the people. It does not say a private concern cannot fire someone for what they say. It's done all the time, wake up and smell the coffee.
wrong it is an Inherent Right granted by our Creator. the bill of Rights wasn't written to give us those rights it was written so those rights could not be taken away. This is one of the fundamental differences between the Right and the Left. The left believes our rights come from government granted to them by the Bill of Rights. The Right knows they are Inherent Rights granted by our Creator and the Bill of Rights was to keep government from taking them away

the Constitution isn't an enabling document is was written as a limiting document
 
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Read more: Editor fired for anti-Obama headline says bosses responded to pressure | Fox News



the lefts war on freedom of speech and press

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I believe in free speech as long as I agree with that speech
I believe in freedom of the press as long as they are not critical of me
I believe in the freedom to protest as long as you don't protest me
I believe in free expression as long as you express my views
don't jump on this took quickly ... we may find out later that the editor was screwing one of his employee's spouses or playing with the books ...
 

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So, we've got a he-said/she-said. People have been fired for less. *shrug*
Name one reporter who was ever fired for being critical of Bush?
 

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wrong it is an Inherent Right granted by our Creator. the bill of Rights wasn't written to give us those rights it was written so those rights could not be taken away. This is one of the fundamental differences between the Right and the Left. The left believes our rights come from government granted to them by the Bill of Rights. The Right knows they are Inherent Rights granted by our Creator and the Bill of Rights was to keep government from taking them away

the Constitution isn't an enabling document is was written as a limiting document
So does those on the Right that have a brain. :roll:
 

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don't jump on this took quickly ... we may find out later that the editor was screwing one of his employee's spouses or playing with the books ...
of coarse it has to be something else. no Obama supporter would ever make a newspaper fire a reporter for being critical of Obama
 

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of coarse it has to be something else. no Obama supporter would ever make a newspaper fire a reporter for being critical of Obama
I didn't say that at all ... I was just giving you some good advice ... wait a bit to make sure s/he wasn't really fired for another reason and is just giving this as a reason ... but of course I can see a lib firing someone for this reason ... both sides have their jerks ... just because you guys have more than your share, doesn't mean that libs don't ...
 

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wrong it is an Inherent Right granted by our Creator.
What "creator?"

Besides, the right to free speech does not mean that every media outlet is obligated to provide a platform to every person who wishes to speak, or for every opinion.

The editor basically told the President of the United States to "shove it." If that crosses the line for that newspaper's editorial policies and/or code of conduct -- written or unwritten -- then there is no problem whatsoever with terminating his employment.


The left believes our rights come from government granted to them by the Bill of Rights.
Incorrect.

1) There are plenty of leftists and progressives who believe in intrinsic rights.
2) There is no religious requirement in order to be a conservative or right-wing.
3) There is no problem or contradiction in asserting conservatism / right-wing ideas and rejecting intrinsic rights (e.g. Mill).
 

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So does those on the Right that have a brain. :roll:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.


sound familiar?
 

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wrong it is an Inherent Right granted by our Creator. the bill of Rights wasn't written to give us those rights it was written so those rights could not be taken away. This is one of the fundamental differences between the Right and the Left. The left believes our rights come from government granted to them by the Bill of Rights. The Right knows they are Inherent Rights granted by our Creator and the Bill of Rights was to keep government from taking them away

the Constitution isn't an enabling document is was written as a limiting document
Since you seem confused about the constitution, let me help. Here is the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Notice that it does not mention a creator, but it does mention congress. What does this tell you? This is a limit on the power of government, not of a private business.

Now, can you show me where any creator said that people have the inherant right to be employed by a newspaper and write anything they want in that newspaper? Because I don't think that is a creator given right. I am not sure why you hate free enterprise so much, but it kinda is how things work in this country.
 
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