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If I understand correctly, you're proposing that anyone who is unemployed (undefined term) should be compensated for such. Not sure how minimum wage fits in there, since if they aren't working, by definition they have no wage, and min wage laws do not apply.
Unless you're saying that the minimum allowable wage should be a required amount of money for every single person to have, and thus they must be paid min wage even if they aren't working?
I just explained what my understanding of your phrase is.What part of, a form of minimum wage that simply compensates unemployed labor for being unemployed in any at-will employment State do you find difficult to understand?
I was using the term "media" to refer to NEWS mediaMedia is media; or do you believe the public domain does not contain media?
It just seems like you prefer diversion to actually discovering sublime Truth (value) through argumentation.I just explained what my understanding of your phrase is.
You tell me what I don't understand, if you can.
I was using the term "media" to refer to NEWS media
What on earth are you talking about? If anyone here is diverting, it's you with your constant repetitious statements. Rather than address responses, you divert back to your original statement.It just seems like you prefer diversion to actually discovering sublime Truth (value) through argumentation.
Here is a simplification. A form of minimum wage that simply compensates unemployed labor for being unemployed on an at-will basis. I hope this is easier.
What on earth are you talking about? If anyone here is diverting, it's you with your constant repetitious statements. Rather than address responses, you divert back to your original statement.
And that's not a simplification, it's the same statement.
I presented you with my take on that line. Is it accurate?
No.
Opinion is not news.
I don't even know what your position is yet, after how many posts?I believe you really do prefer diversion to discovering sublime Truth (value) since you don't have a valid argument to continue this discussion.
Much "news" these days is actually commentary.That seems disingenuous since we are dealing with politics; not just hard facts; potentially due to a simple poverty of the moral of "goodwill toward men".
I don't even know what your position is yet, after how many posts?
I can't argue for or against something if I don't know what it is/means.
Much "news" these days is actually commentary.
News is simply reporting an event, without commentary.
The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the goverment.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
monthly jobs report. rage or rejoice.
I gave you a starting point.
Here is a simplification. A form of minimum wage that simply compensates unemployed labor for being unemployed on an at-will basis. I hope this is easier.
All you seem to have is diversion.
Straight from the LA Times central committee. Yea I'll take that to the bank...if I can find one that hasn't shut down yet. Here in southern Colorado, the unemployment rate hovers around 18%. The closest town to my ranch is Monte Vista. At least half the businesses there have shut their doors through this never-ending recession. Many were iconic. The Ford dealership that closed was more than 100 years old. So was the furniture store that closed in 2011. It'd been in business for 105 years. The Radio Shack had been around for 50 years. It closed in 2013. And there are dozens of other businesses that've tanked besides those. Monte Vista is starting to look like a ghost town.
I already responded to that.
You dismissed my response as a diversion, which was incorrect.
I said I responded.Can you re-state your position, it didn't seem very clear or concise.
Here is a simplification. A form of minimum wage that simply compensates unemployed labor for being unemployed on an at-will basis. I hope this is easier.
If I understand correctly, you're proposing that anyone who is unemployed (undefined term) should be compensated for such. Not sure how minimum wage fits in there, since if they aren't working, by definition they have no wage, and min wage laws do not apply.
Unless you're saying that the minimum allowable wage should be a required amount of money for every single person to have, and thus they must be paid min wage even if they aren't working?
I said I responded.
My response was intended as a request for clarification:
Please clarify what you mean by the following phrases: "simple poverty", "a form of minimum wage", and "and that form of market based metric".I am saying that we could solve simple poverty at the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage and that form of market based metric under our form of Capitalism, by using the Socialism of the existing law, to bail it out.
Please clarify what you mean by the following phrases: "simple poverty", "a form of minimum wage", and "and that form of market based metric".
Any form of poverty is due to lack of income.Ok. In the context of our discussion, which subscribes to the concept of employment at will; simple poverty is due to a lack of income that would otherwise be obtained in a more efficient market for labor operating at full employment.
"Minimum wage" is the state-mandated minimum wage for any job. As I understand it.I use the term, minimum wage, to distinguish from a maximum wage, a median wage, and even an efficiency wage;
I have no idea what you just said.for market based metrics and any subscription to rational choice (theory) under our form of Capitalism; the market based metric portion of the concept must be self-evident under any form of Capitalism but not truer forms of Socialism.
Any form of poverty is due to lack of income.
What is your definition of "simple poverty". As in, what living conditions do you consider "simple poverty", what income level, if any, etc.
"Minimum wage" is the state-mandated minimum wage for any job. As I understand it.
Do you mean something else?
I have no idea what you just said.
That's the cause.simple poverty is due to a lack of income that would otherwise be obtained in a more efficient market for labor operating at full employment; a form of minimum wage could be used to simply compete with the private sector for labor by utilizing that form of metric in our market based economy.
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