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Economics is the real blue tsunami

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There's a long-term blue tsunami out there, and it's much more powerful than any voter sentiment. It's simple economics.

Liberals and Democrats are moving to red states in record numbers, and, unlike what the partisan hacks say, it isn't because the blue states are stagnating. It's actually because the blue states are booming like crazy.

States like New York and California have the most "popular" jobs, and plenty of people still consider them to be "dream states" to live in. Of course, that means that competition for these jobs is brutal, and competition for housing is even worse. That's the reason you can spend upwards of $50,000 per year for a semi-reasonable apartment.

Imagine $50,000. Just sitting there. Or in your bank account. Do you really want that going to your RENT?

What's more, a lot of blue state businesses have created "remote work" or "telecommuting" positions. Even if you have one of those jobs, and need to fly back to the home office for the big meetings, you're still saving all that money, so the plane tickets aren't a problem.

So obviously, these blue state migrants are enjoying a lower cost of living, lower regional income and property taxes, and even a paycheck from a blue state: which means they get to live rich.

And guess who all these new arrivals are going to vote for? That's your blue tsunami.
 

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There's a long-term blue tsunami out there, and it's much more powerful than any voter sentiment. It's simple economics.

Liberals and Democrats are moving to red states in record numbers, and, unlike what the partisan hacks say, it isn't because the blue states are stagnating. It's actually because the blue states are booming like crazy.

States like New York and California have the most "popular" jobs, and plenty of people still consider them to be "dream states" to live in. Of course, that means that competition for these jobs is brutal, and competition for housing is even worse. That's the reason you can spend upwards of $50,000 per year for a semi-reasonable apartment.

Imagine $50,000. Just sitting there. Or in your bank account. Do you really want that going to your RENT?

What's more, a lot of blue state businesses have created "remote work" or "telecommuting" positions. Even if you have one of those jobs, and need to fly back to the home office for the big meetings, you're still saving all that money, so the plane tickets aren't a problem.

So obviously, these blue state migrants are enjoying a lower cost of living, lower regional income and property taxes, and even a paycheck from a blue state: which means they get to live rich.

And guess who all these new arrivals are going to vote for? That's your blue tsunami.

Yet another "progressives will overcome with demographics" meme. Not a single one of these has proved out. It's all just wishful thinking.

They did a survey on the people who moved to Texas from California. It turns out most of them vote Republican.
 

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There's a long-term blue tsunami out there, and it's much more powerful than any voter sentiment. It's simple economics.

Liberals and Democrats are moving to red states in record numbers, and, unlike what the partisan hacks say, it isn't because the blue states are stagnating. It's actually because the blue states are booming like crazy.

States like New York and California have the most "popular" jobs, and plenty of people still consider them to be "dream states" to live in. Of course, that means that competition for these jobs is brutal, and competition for housing is even worse. That's the reason you can spend upwards of $50,000 per year for a semi-reasonable apartment.

Imagine $50,000. Just sitting there. Or in your bank account. Do you really want that going to your RENT?

What's more, a lot of blue state businesses have created "remote work" or "telecommuting" positions. Even if you have one of those jobs, and need to fly back to the home office for the big meetings, you're still saving all that money, so the plane tickets aren't a problem.

So obviously, these blue state migrants are enjoying a lower cost of living, lower regional income and property taxes, and even a paycheck from a blue state: which means they get to live rich.

And guess who all these new arrivals are going to vote for? That's your blue tsunami.

Great points.

The "blue" cities have become victims of their own success. Having established themselves over many years as economic powerhouses of America, they became places to which so many people wanted to move. But this combined with stifling local geography and disappearing affordable housing have hindered their growth. So, where do some of these wealthy people go? Why, to cheaper metro areas such as Dallas, Atlanta, and Houston. Note that each of these flipped a House seat that had for years been safely red--TX-07, GA-06, and TX-32.

But it gets better. It would not surprise me if some conservatives who might want to move to a state such as Texas might look at Beto O'Rourke's near-miss at a Senate seat and think, wait a minute, Texas might be trending bluer even faster than we thought. It would become the latest southwestern state, assuming for the moment that Texas could be described as southwestern, to move from Republican to Democratic over the last few decades. And if Texas goes blue, the Republicans can forget about electing another president for a long, long time!
 

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There's a long-term blue tsunami out there, and it's much more powerful than any voter sentiment. It's simple economics.

Liberals and Democrats are moving to red states in record numbers, and, unlike what the partisan hacks say, it isn't because the blue states are stagnating. It's actually because the blue states are booming like crazy.

States like New York and California have the most "popular" jobs, and plenty of people still consider them to be "dream states" to live in. Of course, that means that competition for these jobs is brutal, and competition for housing is even worse. That's the reason you can spend upwards of $50,000 per year for a semi-reasonable apartment.

Imagine $50,000. Just sitting there. Or in your bank account. Do you really want that going to your RENT?

What's more, a lot of blue state businesses have created "remote work" or "telecommuting" positions. Even if you have one of those jobs, and need to fly back to the home office for the big meetings, you're still saving all that money, so the plane tickets aren't a problem.

So obviously, these blue state migrants are enjoying a lower cost of living, lower regional income and property taxes, and even a paycheck from a blue state: which means they get to live rich.

And guess who all these new arrivals are going to vote for? That's your blue tsunami.

I know some folks who changed their tax residence from D.C. to a state in which they have a vacation home so they could vote in the VA's midterm....Mind, they had property there, so doing so was little more than administrative. AFAIK, they'll keep their tax residence there until 2020 after which they'll shift it back to DC. I guess, given the OP-er's remarks, that doing so is a trend of sorts.
 

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There's a long-term blue tsunami out there, and it's much more powerful than any voter sentiment. It's simple economics.

Liberals and Democrats are moving to red states in record numbers, and, unlike what the partisan hacks say, it isn't because the blue states are stagnating. It's actually because the blue states are booming like crazy.

States like New York and California have the most "popular" jobs, and plenty of people still consider them to be "dream states" to live in. Of course, that means that competition for these jobs is brutal, and competition for housing is even worse. That's the reason you can spend upwards of $50,000 per year for a semi-reasonable apartment.

Imagine $50,000. Just sitting there. Or in your bank account. Do you really want that going to your RENT?

What's more, a lot of blue state businesses have created "remote work" or "telecommuting" positions. Even if you have one of those jobs, and need to fly back to the home office for the big meetings, you're still saving all that money, so the plane tickets aren't a problem.

So obviously, these blue state migrants are enjoying a lower cost of living, lower regional income and property taxes, and even a paycheck from a blue state: which means they get to live rich.

And guess who all these new arrivals are going to vote for? That's your blue tsunami.

Source?
 

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It rather depends on the overall concentration of Hated Liberals across the state in question. The population in cities has to exceed the overall population, otherwise it will remain a tiny red state with outsized power, itself empowered because of what is largely a slave-state compromise that didn't disappear with the 3/5ths.
 

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There's a long-term blue tsunami out there, and it's much more powerful than any voter sentiment. It's simple economics.

Liberals and Democrats are moving to red states in record numbers, and, unlike what the partisan hacks say, it isn't because the blue states are stagnating. It's actually because the blue states are booming like crazy.

States like New York and California have the most "popular" jobs, and plenty of people still consider them to be "dream states" to live in. Of course, that means that competition for these jobs is brutal, and competition for housing is even worse. That's the reason you can spend upwards of $50,000 per year for a semi-reasonable apartment.

Imagine $50,000. Just sitting there. Or in your bank account. Do you really want that going to your RENT?

What's more, a lot of blue state businesses have created "remote work" or "telecommuting" positions. Even if you have one of those jobs, and need to fly back to the home office for the big meetings, you're still saving all that money, so the plane tickets aren't a problem.

So obviously, these blue state migrants are enjoying a lower cost of living, lower regional income and property taxes, and even a paycheck from a blue state: which means they get to live rich.
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And guess who all these new arrivals are going to vote for? That's your blue tsunami.
Probably a very good analogy; If the dems control the economy it will be a disaster on a par with a tsunami. Stock market is already reflecting the pessimism of a Dem controlled House
 

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Probably a very good analogy; If the dems control the economy it will be a disaster on a par with a tsunami. Stock market is already reflecting the pessimism of a Dem controlled House

Never mind that the silliness directly above this line flies in the face of a century of market data.
 

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Never mind that the silliness directly above this line flies in the face of a century of market data.
The market operates on today's situation, investors buy and sell based on what they thing the economy will do, not the goofy interpretations of "a century of market data".
 

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I can't help but notice the lack of a single link while arguing against all logic. You bring the wild claims that you did in OP and you should at least make some effort to back them up.
 

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Probably a very good analogy; If the dems control the economy it will be a disaster on a par with a tsunami. Stock market is already reflecting the pessimism of a Dem controlled House

The day after the midterm elections, the Dow went up nearly 400 points. Nice try. :thumbs:

P.S. You might wanna take a look at how well the Dow has done since Donnie Boy's one-year anniversary!
 

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The day after the midterm elections, the Dow went up nearly 400 points. Nice try. :thumbs:

P.S. You might wanna take a look at how well the Dow has done since Donnie Boy's one-year anniversary!
And notice that more and more House elections went Dem it went further and further down. A few were probably also hoping that Pelosi wasn't going to be Speaker.
 

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And notice that more and more House elections went Dem it went further and further down. A few were probably also hoping that Pelosi wasn't going to be Speaker.

Oh you want to play this little game? Fine, I'll call your bluff and raise you this:

bush-vs-obama-by-the-numbers-9-638.jpg
 

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Oh you want to play this little game? Fine, I'll call your bluff and raise you this:

bush-vs-obama-by-the-numbers-9-638.jpg
Oh, yawn. Seen this a hundred times. Still basically a bull****, distorted snapshot. I notice you include no source or timeframe for those numbers.
 

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Oh, yawn. Seen this a hundred times. Still basically a bull****, distorted snapshot. I notice you include no source or timeframe for those numbers.
:lamo
And there we have it. He doesn't like the answer so he won't accept it. Thanks for playing! :2wave:
 

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And there we have it. He doesn't like the answer so he won't accept it. Thanks for playing! :2wave:
Nice try. You're dodging my questions. I just checked REAL GDP growth numbers and Obama NEVER had a 3.5% annual rate, he averaged UNDER 2% for his term. Oh, and by the way Consumer Confidence in July 2018 was 127.4. Got any REAL data?
 
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Nice try. You're dodging my questions. I just checked REAL GDP growth numbers and Obama NEVER had a 3.5% annual rate.

Prove that Obama never experienced a 3.5% GDP growth.
 

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Prove that Obama never experienced a 3.5% GDP growth.
Prove that he did - It's your claim. Not single quarter projections, but real annual GDP growth.
 

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Prove that he did - It's your claim. Not single quarter projections, but real annual GDP growth.

I posted a claim, they're easily refutable if they were in fact wrong. Sorry that you're unable to do so! But please, continue with this feeble attempt to make something out of your nothingburger position. Your ODS is quite amusing to watch. :lol:
 

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I posted a claim, they're easily refutable if they were in fact wrong. Sorry that you're unable to do so! But please, continue with this feeble attempt to make something out of your nothingburger position. Your ODS is quite amusing to watch. :lol:
No, you posted a picture with some numbers on it. No clue who made it or what his sources are. It's like posting a comic book.
 

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No, you posted a picture with some numbers on it. No clue who made it or what his sources are. It's like posting a comic book.

A tRump supporter is trying to lecture me on facts. :lol:

Notice how you never put the same standard on yourself to back up this ridiculous claim:

Probably a very good analogy; If the dems control the economy it will be a disaster on a par with a tsunami. Stock market is already reflecting the pessimism of a Dem controlled House

No facts to back that up.
 
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