Earth just experienced its hottest September ever recorded

[Lord of Planar]

So what magnitude and duration of spiking in global temperature do you think is possible without an accompanying change in the composition of the atmosphere?

Quite a bit, and when a slice of ice represents 600 years, you wouldn't see the spike. Just the averages levels during that 600 years.

You don't get it. Yes the atmosphere changes. What is seen in the ice doesn't have the resolution to see it.

 

[Media_Truth]

Following the hottest summer on record, 2019 continues to head for the history books. Last month was officially the hottest September on record, just slightly hotter (.04 degrees Fahrenheit) than the previous record-holder, September 2016.

Last month was 1.02 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the average September from 1981-2010 and about 1.2 degrees Fahrenheit above the preindustrial level, according to data released Friday by the Copernicus Climate Change Service, an organization that tracks global temperatures.

September was warmer than the September of 2016. It looks like this ---> 2017<2018<2016<2019

 

[Bergslagstroll]

September was warmer than the September of 2016. It looks like this ---> 2017<2018<2016<2019

You are also starting to see the devastating effects of climate change all across the world.

From Qatar to Vietnam, global heating is making the workplace deadly for millions | Global development | The Guardian

One climate crisis disaster happening every week, UN warns | Environment | The Guardian

 

[Lord of Planar]

September was warmer than the September of 2016. It looks like this ---> 2017<2018<2016<2019

So?

Seems to me there are several factors to cause such measurement.

The heat island effect increases with population and infrastructure density. This contaminates thermometer reading of temperature changes when the wing blows right, or when they are withing these areas.

The thermal inertial of the sun-ocean-atmosphere coupling is still not likely warmed the oceans to equilibrium yet, which also affects global temperatures.

We had maximum aerosol coverage in the atmosphere in the 70's, reducing the insolation to the surface. We have cleared the skies to their best optical transparency around the year 2000, which has increased the surface temperature, and extended the time for the oceans to reach thermal equilibrium to the new insolation.

Yes, CO2 is a factor too. Just far smaller than the AGW prophets claim.

 

[Lord of Planar]

You are also starting to see the devastating effects of climate change all across the world.

From Qatar to Vietnam, global heating is making the workplace deadly for millions | Global development | The Guardian

One climate crisis disaster happening every week, UN warns | Environment | The Guardian

Cold weather kills more than hot weather. For every extra person killed in the heat, I'll bet two survive that would have otherwise died in the cold season.

 

[Glitch]

Cold weather kills more than hot weather. For every extra person killed in the heat, I'll bet two survive that would have otherwise died in the cold season.

I'm not so sure. Cold will kill quicker than heat, but there are far fewer people in colder climates than there are in hot climates. This is a map of the world's population distributed by latitude:


So while cold may kill people faster, the overwhelming majority of the planet's population is located within the tropical areas of the planet and are therefore more likely to die from heat in larger numbers.

I'm reminded of two occasions, one in 1978 at Twentynine Palms, CA during a training exercise with the Marine Corps. A jeep with four Marines broke down 5 miles from camp, and being Marines they decided to be gung-ho and run the 5 miles back to camp. They made it just over two miles from their broken down jeep where all four were found dead from heat stroke. The other occasion was in 1992, just after I moved Alaska. A family of three had broken down about 20 miles west of Glennallen, AK in December. Instead of staying with their vehicle until help arrived, they decided to walk to the nearest home they past a couple miles behind them. They never made it.

Both excess heat and cold can be fatal, and it is important to know what to do in either situation.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I'm not so sure. Cold will kill quicker than heat, but there are far fewer people in colder climates than there are in hot climates. This is a map of the world's population distributed by latitude:
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So while cold may kill people faster, the overwhelming majority of the planet's population is located within the tropical areas of the planet and are therefore more likely to die from heat in larger numbers.

I'm reminded of two occasions, one in 1978 at Twentynine Palms, CA during a training exercise with the Marine Corps. A jeep with four Marines broke down 5 miles from camp, and being Marines they decided to be gung-ho and run the 5 miles back to camp. They made it just over two miles from their broken down jeep where all four were found dead from heat stroke. The other occasion was in 1992, just after I moved Alaska. A family of three had broken down about 20 miles west of Glennallen, AK in December. Instead of staying with their vehicle until help arrived, they decided to walk to the nearest home they past a couple miles behind them. They never made it.

Both excess heat and cold can be fatal, and it is important to know what to do in either situation.

The hottest of the places aren't warming from greenhouse gasses. It's the cooler of the places that are. All areas are warming near cities, from the urban heat island effect.

 

[Glitch]

The hottest of the places aren't warming from greenhouse gasses. It's the cooler of the places that are. All areas are warming near cities, from the urban heat island effect.

The overall warming, what little (0.51°C) there has been since 1880, has been fairly evenly distributed across the planet. There are no large pockets of greenhouse gases collecting additional heat in various parts of the world. Those greenhouse gases are distributed by the jet stream around the planet. The effects of that warming may be more noticeable the further north or south you go, as opposed to the effects noticed in the tropics where it is already warm, but the warming is as evenly distributed as it can be considering the winds.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The overall warming, what little (0.51°C) there has been since 1880, has been fairly evenly distributed across the planet. There are no large pockets of greenhouse gases collecting additional heat in various parts of the world. Those greenhouse gases are distributed by the jet stream around the planet. The effects of that warming may be more noticeable the further north or south you go, as opposed to the effects noticed in the tropics where it is already warm, but the warming is as evenly distributed as it can be considering the winds.

Heat retention from greenhouse gas concentrations are not a linear response. Areas with higher absolute humidity see insignificant increases from added CO2. Colder regions hold less moisture in the air, so there is more room for added CO2 to increase the heat.

Much, if not most of the heat anomalies we measure are from meteorological stations getting urban heat island contamination, because none of them are far enough away to be immune to it.

There is no getting away from the increasing urban heat island effect, unless you are to live in a remote area. This is far greater than any global increases assumed.

 

[Outlook]

Hottest September on record, after many other record hot month this year.

Following the hottest summer on record, 2019 continues to head for the history books. Last month was officially the hottest September on record, just slightly hotter (.04 degrees Fahrenheit) than the previous record-holder, September 2016.

Last month was 1.02 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the average September from 1981-2010 and about 1.2 degrees Fahrenheit above the preindustrial level, according to data released Friday by the Copernicus Climate Change Service, an organization that tracks global temperatures.

According to AFP, the organization is treating the two months as joint record-holders because the difference is negligible.

September follows a record-setting summer, which recorded the hottest June and July, and the second hottest August. This July was the hottest month on record since record-keeping began 140 years ago.

Climate Change: Earth just experienced its hottest September ever recorded - CBS News

There also 2014-2019 are set to become the warmest recorded five year period.

Five-year period ending 2019 set to be hottest on record

There is too many people on this earth. We need to eat the babies.

 

[chuckiechan]

Hottest September on record, after many other record hot month this year.

Following the hottest summer on record, 2019 continues to head for the history books. Last month was officially the hottest September on record, just slightly hotter (.04 degrees Fahrenheit) than the previous record-holder, September 2016.

Last month was 1.02 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the average September from 1981-2010 and about 1.2 degrees Fahrenheit above the preindustrial level, according to data released Friday by the Copernicus Climate Change Service, an organization that tracks global temperatures.

According to AFP, the organization is treating the two months as joint record-holders because the difference is negligible.

September follows a record-setting summer, which recorded the hottest June and July, and the second hottest August. This July was the hottest month on record since record-keeping began 140 years ago.

Climate Change: Earth just experienced its hottest September ever recorded - CBS News

There also 2014-2019 are set to become the warmest recorded five year period.

Five-year period ending 2019 set to be hottest on record

Are you committed enough to spend all your money and max out your credit cards since we all are going to die soon anyway

 

[longview]

I just looked, and as of 10/16 7:28 am cst,GISS has not published the September 2019 number.
I guess real data correction takes a bit of time?

 

[Surface Detail]

I just looked, and as of 10/16 7:28 am cst,GISS has not published the September 2019 number.
I guess real data correction takes a bit of time?

Maybe you're looking in the wrong place? It's 0.90 C.

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v4/

 

[longview]

Maybe you're looking in the wrong place? It's 0.90 C.

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v4/

nope!
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v4/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt

2019 94 95 118 102 87 93 94 90 **** **** **** **** **** *** 94 102 92 **** 2019
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec J-D D-N DJF MAM JJA SON Year

P.S. if the number is .90 C, then it is not the "hottest September ever recorded",
as September 2016 was .92 C!

 

[longview]

Good news, GISS just updated their site with September's reading and it is .90 C,
one odd thing is that a hour ago September 2016 was .92 C, and now it is .91C.
Also, September 2019 is not the "hottest September ever recorded"!

 

[Surface Detail]

nope!
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v4/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt

P.S. if the number is .90 C, then it is not the "hottest September ever recorded",
as September 2016 was .92 C!

The last line of data at your link is:

2019 93 94 117 101 86 92 93 93 90 **** **** **** **** *** 93 102 93 **** 2019
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec J-D D-N DJF MAM JJA SON Year

Maybe you have an old, cached version in your browser? Try reloading.

 

[Surface Detail]

Good news, GISS just updated their site with September's reading and it is .90 C,
one odd thing is that a hour ago September 2016 was .92 C, and now it is .91C.
Also, September 2019 is not the "hottest September ever recorded"!

You reloaded, didn't you! :lol:

 

[longview]

You reloaded, didn't you! :lol:

Yes, but also reloaded at as of 10/16 7:28 am, where Sept was not posted yet,
and September 2016 was still at .92 C.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I just looked, and as of 10/16 7:28 am cst,GISS has not published the September 2019 number.
I guess real data correction takes a bit of time?

They probably have to keep changing the new correction formula so it matches their conformation bias.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Maybe you're looking in the wrong place? It's 0.90 C.

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v4/

The text says it uses a five year smoothing.

 

[longview]

They probably have to keep changing the new correction formula so it matches their conformation bias.

I suspect manipulation of data is like lying, care must be taken to not upset the entire idea!

 

[Lord of Planar]

nope!
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v4/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt

P.S. if the number is .90 C, then it is not the "hottest September ever recorded",
as September 2016 was .92 C!

Nice try making him look, but he still used the averaged data and missed that fact. Though, if 0.92 was in a past record, they corrected it to 0.91 in the link.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Good news, GISS just updated their site with September's reading and it is .90 C,
one odd thing is that a hour ago September 2016 was .92 C, and now it is .91C.
Also, September 2019 is not the "hottest September ever recorded"!

They aren't done correct it yet.

Wait a few days, and it will be 0.89.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The last line of data at your link is:



Maybe you have an old, cached version in your browser? Try reloading.

So you acknowledge, they keep changing the numbers...

 

[longview]

Nice try making him look, but he still used the averaged data and missed that fact. Though, if 0.92 was in a past record, they corrected it to 0.91 in the link.

They corrected it, this morning.