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Dumbest Crap!!!!

What these hell do people who are being slaughtered by Russia end up resorting to Racism... That's the dumbest crap!!!!!

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‘It Does Not Justify It’: Peace Corps Guidance for Black Volunteers In Ukraine Causes a Stir After Being Exposed on Twitter

Peace Corps positions in Ukraine are currently not open, but Black Peace Corps volunteers who applied were warned to be prepared to be called the N-word and face other racist behavior while in Ukraine, according guidance on the Peace Corps website that is currently being discussed on social media

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The warning, which includes personal accounts from volunteers, calls for having thick skin and an understanding that the racial discrimination comes from Ukrainians’ lack of exposure to Black people.


“It is not uncommon for Ukrainians to refer to African-Americans as “[N-Word]”. Volunteers of color may be called ‘a monkey’ or may see children’s games with Blackface,” one volunteer wrote.

“Being aware of the history of dehumanization for people of African descent may help inform where this comes from; it does not justify it. It will be at your discretion to determine the intent.”

The warning builds on the recent reports of discrimination against African students in Ukraine, choosing to study in the country for cheaper living and more accessible education. U.S. Peace Corps volunteers have been in the country since 1992, teaching English and helping Ukrainians with financial, media and civic literacy, HIV awareness and other “community development” initiatives.

The Peace Corps advised volunteers that as Americans, they may be considered “the outsider.”

The organization trains volunteers how to “engage appropriately” and “effectively” across cultures and find “common ground” with the people they will be serving.

However, Black volunteers may face “far more complicated issues,” according to an account from an unnamed volunteer. The organization blames the discrimination on Ukrainians’ lack of exposure to Black people and a preconception that all Americans are white.
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According to data, about 16,000 international college students in Ukraine in 2020 were from Africa. Even though the students contribute millions of dollars to the country’s economy through their pursuit of higher education, many reported being shunned by Ukrainian officials in favor the host nation’s women and children when they tried to leave the country amid Russian attacks in February.

Africans were barred access to buses and other forms of transportation to the border and stranded in the cold as nationals followed a Ukrainian-first policy, with Ukrainian men between 18 and 60 not being allowed leave.

Even when Africans made it to the borders, at times, from traveling miles on foot, they were often turned back by Polish or Romanian guards. Several videos of the harsh treatment went viral online. A new report shows many Black people fleeing Ukraine are being held in prison-like facilities across Europe.

History shows that the recent treatment at the country’s borders is just a fragment of Ukraine’s racist record. The U.S. State Department has warned against travel to Ukraine by ethnic minorities, and human rights groups have expressed concern about hate crimes for more than a decade.

The Ukrainian government adopted a law in 2009 that raised the penalty for hate crimes motivated by race and national origin following a series of racial killings of African and Asian immigrants in 2007.
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And to think, these Ukrainian people want to bring their Racism with them, as they seek Asylum in America? We have more than enough Racism already here in America!!!!! (What the Hell is wrong with (SOME) White People.) Geez!!!!
 
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It's terrible. It needs to be fought and changed. It doesn't justify denying them asylum and their being killed.
 

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"Racists deserve to be murdered by Russia" is definitely a new take I wasn't expecting.
 

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No one said they need to be murdered by Russia.... I said, its Dumb as hell, to be racist when they being slaughtered by Russian....

Black Care workers are there to "Help" them.... they should not be subjected to racism by the same people they are risking their own lives to help.

Anyone who does not understand that... should not be twisting commentary...


Geez... must people always demonstrate ignorance.
 

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1. It is not their fault.

2. As the article points out, many (most?) foreigners associate the word "American" with Caucasian people.

a. They have no idea of the actual population profile of this nation.

3. How interesting to learn that 16,000 African students were studying in Ukraine.

a. It WAS wrong to subject the African students to discrimination when they were trying to flee the country.

4. No one ever said that Ukrainians were angels. But they do not deserve what that Butcher in the Kremlin is doing to them.
 

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The US is one of the least racist countries in the world. It's amazing how much we take for granted.
 

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Any Ukrainians seeking refuge in the United States had best check any latent racist beliefs at the border if they want to live here. I don't think that's asking too much.
I'd be ok with that if we also expelled all our racist citizens.
 

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"Racists deserve to be murdered by Russia" is definitely a new take I wasn't expecting.
How is a take that you entirely made up unexpected? You made it up and wrote it. ****ing wild.
 

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Dumbest Crap!!!!

What these hell do people who are being slaughtered by Russia end up resorting to Racism... That's the dumbest crap!!!!!

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‘It Does Not Justify It’: Peace Corps Guidance for Black Volunteers In Ukraine Causes a Stir After Being Exposed on Twitter

Peace Corps positions in Ukraine are currently not open, but Black Peace Corps volunteers who applied were warned to be prepared to be called the N-word and face other racist behavior while in Ukraine, according guidance on the Peace Corps website that is currently being discussed on social media

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The warning, which includes personal accounts from volunteers, calls for having thick skin and an understanding that the racial discrimination comes from Ukrainians’ lack of exposure to Black people.


“It is not uncommon for Ukrainians to refer to African-Americans as “[N-Word]”. Volunteers of color may be called ‘a monkey’ or may see children’s games with Blackface,” one volunteer wrote.

“Being aware of the history of dehumanization for people of African descent may help inform where this comes from; it does not justify it. It will be at your discretion to determine the intent.”

The warning builds on the recent reports of discrimination against African students in Ukraine, choosing to study in the country for cheaper living and more accessible education. U.S. Peace Corps volunteers have been in the country since 1992, teaching English and helping Ukrainians with financial, media and civic literacy, HIV awareness and other “community development” initiatives.

The Peace Corps advised volunteers that as Americans, they may be considered “the outsider.”

The organization trains volunteers how to “engage appropriately” and “effectively” across cultures and find “common ground” with the people they will be serving.

However, Black volunteers may face “far more complicated issues,” according to an account from an unnamed volunteer. The organization blames the discrimination on Ukrainians’ lack of exposure to Black people and a preconception that all Americans are white.
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According to data, about 16,000 international college students in Ukraine in 2020 were from Africa. Even though the students contribute millions of dollars to the country’s economy through their pursuit of higher education, many reported being shunned by Ukrainian officials in favor the host nation’s women and children when they tried to leave the country amid Russian attacks in February.

Africans were barred access to buses and other forms of transportation to the border and stranded in the cold as nationals followed a Ukrainian-first policy, with Ukrainian men between 18 and 60 not being allowed leave.

Even when Africans made it to the borders, at times, from traveling miles on foot, they were often turned back by Polish or Romanian guards. Several videos of the harsh treatment went viral online. A new report shows many Black people fleeing Ukraine are being held in prison-like facilities across Europe.

History shows that the recent treatment at the country’s borders is just a fragment of Ukraine’s racist record. The U.S. State Department has warned against travel to Ukraine by ethnic minorities, and human rights groups have expressed concern about hate crimes for more than a decade.

The Ukrainian government adopted a law in 2009 that raised the penalty for hate crimes motivated by race and national origin following a series of racial killings of African and Asian immigrants in 2007.
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And to think, these Ukrainian people want to bring their Racism with them, as they seek Asylum in America? We have more than enough Racism already here in America!!!!! (What the Hell is wrong with (SOME) White People.) Geez!!!!
Remember when people were talking about the Nazi influence in Ukraine? Yeah...this shouldn't be a shock.
 

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How is a take that you entirely made up unexpected? You made it up and wrote it. ****ing wild.
OP appears to want to deny safe harbor to people because the place they are from has problems with racism.

Random side note, I have a hard time accepting the idea that Ukrainians ever thought "all Americans are white" when we had a very prominent black president very recently.
 

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I don't understand how Ukraine can be racist - there's no statues of Robert E Lee over there.
 

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I think we need to massively FOCUS ON CIVICS EDUCATION OF AMERICA'S REPUBLIC FORM OF GOVERNANCE AND OUR REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, AND FOCUS ON CIVIC OF SOCIOLOGY"

I think it will be beneficial to American Society and certainly beneficial to our young people and beneficial to the many people who have immigrated here over the past 50 yrs.

I think it will help renew a spirit of Growth and Development in ALL Areas of Our Society, Social, Commercial, Entrapenural and Politically.

It will help us learn better how to select Leaders who truly respect America's Republic Form of Government and improve our Value Committment to Representative Democracy.

The more Americans learn about American, the more we will stamp out racism, ethnicity bias, gender bias and bring people to "become interesed in actual learning" RATHER THAN ... living based on OLD FOLKLORE PASSED ON BIASES AND BIGOTRY.
 

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I don't understand how Ukraine can be racist - there's no statues of Robert E Lee over there.
You do know that the British and America exported Racism Ideology for Centuries and Decades.

  • In the 20th Century, America's "Media" did a great deal of damage and discredit to the Diversity in America... by the long history of the decades of "White Only Media Characters", as well as the Never Positive Media about Black, Brown, Asian and Others who have been in America as Living as Americans for Centuries.
  • We even took Racism into World War I and World War II and spreaded that Ideology. It was not until Vietnam and after, that Racism died down in the Military to a much lower level. During the Reagan Era we begain to see a resurgence of racism in our Military Ranks.
 

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How is a take that you entirely made up unexpected? You made it up and wrote it. ****ing wild.
There's always the crazies....

Over 100's of years of Racism in America from Slavery to Now... Racism exist, but black people have no motivations to think racist should be murdered. Black people are not siding with Putin and Black people don't condone the killing of Innocent People in Ukraine, regardless of their skin and ethnicity.
  • The only people in America siding with Putin are Right Winger minded people
In America, Black people have spent 100's of years trying to help racist understand and respect "God Created Human Beings or All Race and Ethnicity and Country of Origin, as well as Freedom of Religious Choice".
 

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OP appears to want to deny safe harbor to people because the place they are from has problems with racism.

Random side note, I have a hard time accepting the idea that Ukrainians ever thought "all Americans are white" when we had a very prominent black president very recently.
OP didn't say "racist need to be murdered". Further, international standards state that the first country of sufficient protection is the country in which they are admitted. The US is not that country, but there are a number of EU countries that meet that criteria. Further, since the US carries the military burden for most of Europe, and the world, then Europe can carry the social burden of Ukrainian refugees.

 

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OP didn't say "racist need to be murdered".
Leaving refugees in Ukraine does result in this.

Further, international standards state that the first country of sufficient protection is the country in which they are admitted. The US is not that country, but there are a number of EU countries that meet that criteria. Further, since the US carries the military burden for most of Europe, and the world, then Europe can carry the social burden of Ukrainian refugees.

You'll have to take this up with the OP because he is specifically talking about refugees coming to America.
 

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There's always the crazies....

Over 100's of years of Racism in America from Slavery to Now... Racism exist, but black people have no motivations to think racist should be murdered. Black people are not siding with Putin and Black people don't condone the killing of Innocent People in Ukraine, regardless of their skin and ethnicity.
  • The only people in America siding with Putin are Right Winger minded people
In America, Black people have spent 100's of years trying to help racist understand and respect "God Created Human Beings or All Race and Ethnicity and Country of Origin, as well as Freedom of Religious Choice".
Racism exists everywhere, and have for a long time. What America, and many western nations have done, is make the effort to stop not only racism but human abuse via establishing concepts of human rights. Western nations are not unique in their use of slavery, they are unique in their ending of slavery and then spreading that to the rest of the world. Yes, America has a terrible past but I'll not join in in beating it up for something that was the standard but now we are among the acceptation.
 

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Leaving refugees in Ukraine does result in this.
There are plenty of European nations they can go to.
You'll have to take this up with the OP because he is specifically talking about refugees coming to America.
Right....because there are plenty of European nations they can go to. It seems you entirely missed the point there.
 

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Where ever the people gain Asylum, they should leave the "racism" behind them. In every country that has broad diversity, ALL the diverse citizens of that country pays taxes, and it will be tax money that help process and re-settle these people.
There is no room in that for Racism.
 

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I'm sure these black volunteers have heard worse. That said, any individual Ukrainians who have a problem with black Americans are welcome to stay in Ukraine.
 

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There are plenty of European nations they can go to.

Right....because there are plenty of European nations they can go to. It seems you entirely missed the point there.
I'm aware of the point you are trying to make, but the OP put in bold letters a discussion of America, not Europe. Hope this helps your reading comprehension.
 
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