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Drugs And Vaccines Cannot Alone Eliminate COVID 19 and the Variants....... THINK Healthier Diets Vita D3, Vita C , Powerful Multiple Vitamins, Water

Who knew all we needed was a little snake oil to get COVID gone
 
Do you want fries with that?...
 
snake oil might not work .......
 
Razoo said:
There is no scientific evidence that prove vitamins will cure anything that is true
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Other than perhaps an acute case of Scurvy (which is really hard to get), this is true.

Razoo said:
however it is still okay to keep the immune system backed up.
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Yes, it's "okay" in the sense that it's generally both harmless and helpless.

There simply is no body of credible research suggesting that ANY kind or regimen of supplemental vitamins does much of anything to boost one's immune system to prevent or lessen infection in the body. In developed countries, vitamin deficiencies are extremely rare. In fact, in the US you are more likely to develop toxicities due to overconsumption, than to develop diseases due to deficiencies.

In certain cases (i.e. pregnancy, cancer, osteoporosis, cardiovascular disease, etc.) it does help to add supplements to a balanced diet. But for the most part, it's both harmless and helpless. That's the science.

Razoo said:
Pharmaceuticals do not cure anything BUT will remove the symptoms.
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Well, either you are confused about what pharmaceuticals are, or this is just pure nonsense, I'm afraid. Pharmaceuticals are used to diagnose, to prevent, to treat, to modify...and yes, to lessen the severity of symptoms. Not all drugs do the same things, Razoo.

As a most basic example, consider Antibiotics.

Antibiotics aren't administered simply to "remove symptoms". Their purpose is to kill (i.e. cure) bacterial infections, not simply "remove symptoms". Killing (i.e. curing) the infection thus "removes the symptoms" of the infection (i.e. fever, chills, pain, etc.).

Razoo said:
In fact it may be against the law to claim that either will cure.
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This makes no sense to me, at all. And I've been practicing medicine for 25 years.

I have no idea what you could possibly be thinking, here.

Razoo said:
Anyone saying vaccines will cure best walk away quickly from that source.
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I don't think you'll ever see anyone (who knows what they are talking about)....say something like that.

Vaccines help PREVENT diseases. They do not cure them. No vaccine is 100% effective, of course. But the Pfizer (95%) and Moderna (90%) vaccines are MORE effective than common vaccines for disseases like Chickenpox, Mumps, Rotavirus, seasonal influenza, etc.....and almost a effective as vaccines for Polio, Measles, Rubella, etc.

Razoo said:
If anyone is saying be sure to keep your body well hydrated during the invasion of our body that is the person to believe.
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Well....Not of that person is also suggesting that vaccinations are not the best way to protect oneself against contagious and highly lethal diseases. Again, being well-hydrated and/or taking vitamins/nutritional supplements is BOTH harmless and helpless in terms of preventing or surviving contagious diseases like COVID-19. They won't hurt, but they won't help, either.

And if anyone tells you that there is ANY medical/scientific evidence that hydration or nutritional supplements do ANYTHING to help protect you upon exposure to COVID-19.....they are absolutely NOT the person to believe. There is simple ZERO objective, scientific basis to suggest that so-called "Nutritional Medicine" (i.e. vitamins or proper hydration, etc.) holds ANY merit in conversations about protecting oneself from COVID 19.

Again....they won't hurt...but they won't help, either.
 
Razoo said:

  1. Do vitamin D, zinc, and other supplements help prevent COVID ...​

    www.health.harvard.edu › blog › do-vitamin-d-zinc
    Apr 05, 2021 · Vitamin C is an antioxidant that has long been promoted as a key player in healthy immune function. Zinc may have antiviral activity, whether by improving immune cell function that counters viral infections or by... Some evidence (see this study and this study) suggests that combining vitamin C and ...

  2. Studies suggest 4 vitamins to lower risk of severe cases of ...​

    www.fox26houston.com › news › studies-suggest-4
    Dec 23, 2020 · Number 2: Vitamin C, we know it's working well. There have been some studies on COVID where vitamin C has shown to have very good benefits in the outcome of an illness. Number 3: Zinc stops viral replication multiple ways, so it prevents the virus from hijacking your DNA, prevents the virus from replicating.

  3. Three vitamins, minerals to boost your immune system and ...​

    news.fiu.edu › 2020 › three-vitamins,-minerals-to
    • Vitamin C. This vitamin has been hailed for years as a go-to source for aiding the immune system. Palacios said vitamin C is vital for the health of leukocytes, a type of white blood cells that help fight infections.
    • Vitamin D. Most often we get our vitamin D through the sun, but throughout this time, Palacios said, taking a supplement is a good idea. She added that studies have shown that low levels of vitamin D have been associated with a greater risk of developing respiratory conditions in adults and children.
    • Zinc. Palacios said that zinc is crucial for normal development and functioning of cells mediating part of the immune system. She added that studies have shown that increased concentrations of zinc can inhibit the replication of viruses like poliovirus and SARS-coronavirus.

  4. Supplements and COVID-19: Can supplements help you fight ...​

    www.forestaorganics.com › supplements-and-covid-19
    Aug 03, 2021 · Supplements and COVID-19. A deficiency of even a single nutrient in your body can affect the immune response. What can supplements do to the coronavirus?

  5. Top Supplements to Help Battle Covid-19 - Newsweek​

  6. www.newsweek.com › amplify › top-supplements-help
    Jan 11, 2021 · Top Supplements to Help Battle Covid-19 If you want to stay resilient against infection, adding a few immune support products, such as Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Quercetin, Glutathione/NAC, Zinc, and...

  7. These 3 Vitamins Could Save You From Severe COVID, Study Finds​

    www.msn.com › en-us › health
    Feb 02, 2021 · Vitamin D isn't the only supplement that could boost your chances of surviving COVID.

  8. Which vitamins and minerals help with COVID?​

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    Jun 18, 2021 · Vitamin B3 [niacin (nicotinic acid, pantothenic acid)] has an anti-inflammatory impact, and recent studies show that it can help reduce inflammation in patients with COVID-19 and can even be used...

  9. Here Are the Vitamins to Increase Immunity Against COVID-19​

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    Sep 15, 2020 · The NIH recommends 90 milligrams of Vitamin C per day for men and 75 milligrams for women. As for Vitamin D, 15 micrograms per day is the sweet spot. And if you're in search of a brand that could...

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be smart about building immunity .....
 
Social distancing and regular handwashing are the most effective and proven methods to reduce risk and spread of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19). However, along with general questions on how to safely shop for and prepare food (addressed here), many are wondering about the more specific role of diet and nutrition during this pandemic.

To understand more about the link between nutrition and immunity, and existing evidence on nutrient status, supplementation, and infection, we spoke with Dr. Wafaie Fawzi, Dr. Walter Willett, and PhD student, Dr. Ibraheem Abioye

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Ask the Expert: The role of diet and nutritional supplements during COVID-19

Social distancing and regular handwashing are the most effective and proven methods to reduce risk and spread of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19). However, along with general questions on how to …
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Well I can't offer a scientific study, but....

My doctor said I was vitamin D deficient. I had suffered terrible problems with bipolar disorder mania and inability to sleep. Within just a couple months of supplements, I have zero trouble sleeping. I have even been able to come off medications completely since.

There was no obvious symptom pointing to D deficiency yet in many ways my health and well being improved dramatically from remedying the one situation.

Other than my 2nd Moderna shot, haven't been sick once since then.

I'm sure whatever way you do it, nutrition is an important part of the puzzle even if its difficult to show with studies
 
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Razoo said:

  1. Health Benefits of Orgasm That'll Make You Want to Get Busy ...​

    www.shape.com › sex-and-love › benefits-of-orgasm
    Research has shown that one of the biggest health benefits of orgasm is that it boosts your immune system. A study of college students showed that those who had sex once or twice a week had immunoglobulin levels 30 percent higher than those who were abstinent.

  2. Effects of sexual arousal on lymphocyte subset circulation ...​

    pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › 15316239
    Sexual arousal and orgasm increased the absolute number of leukocytes, in particular natural killer cells (CD3-CD16+CD56+), in the peripheral blood. In contrast, T cell (CD3+) and B cell (CD3-CD20+) subpopulations as well as the production of interleukin 6 and tumor necrosins factor alpha remained unaffected by sexual activity.

  3. A Sex Coach Tells Us Why She Recommends at Least One Orgasm a Day​

    www.thebody.com › article › sex-coach-recommends-at
    Orgasms Boost Your Immune System While the often-cited 2004 study used to support this claim was done with a small sample size (calling all sex researchers, we need you!), the results were...

  4. The ONE Surprising Effect Sex Has On Your Immune System​

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    In fact, according to a study by Wilkes University in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania of 112 students, having sex once or twice a week lead to 30 percent higher levels of IgA. So sex is giving your...
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Agree with ALL of the above and always have.
But I will never COUNT ON a session with the wife or rubbing out a batch to protect me from COVID-19.
And I was informed today that my wife and I are both in the risk categories to qualify for a third booster shot, which we will both get as soon as the VA figures who goes in which spot on the totem pole.
But at least we know we're both ON the totem pole.

PS: I was given the Pfizer two shot dose, Karen got "dat Funky Cold Moderna".

But we'll both continue to pursue "le petit morte" whenever possible. 😉
 
PNW Guy said:
I had suffered terrible problems with bipolar disorder mania and inability to sleep.
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I've never received a diagnosis like that...I just woke up every morning feeling like roasted dog crap in a bucket, whereas up until around age 50 or so, I used to spring out of bed feeling like Superman.
And sure enough fixing my Vitamin D levels fixed a lot of that.
I still have mornings where I feel like utter dog crap now, but that's because I am a longhaul COVID zombie after nearly dying from it in Feb 2020.
I do imagine I'd feel much much worse if my Vitamin D levels were too low.
 
Moderna twice...... no booster unless absolutely necessary
 
ultmd said:
yes I do. What point are you trying to make?

???

Is there an actual point to this mumbo-jumbo?


Huh?

I won't even waste my time asking you for a link to this fakenews b.s.

Stop lying, please. It makes you seem dumb.



Well, between you and me, ONE of us is certainly confused and/or dishonest.
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How’s all that working out for you? Check out the latest studies from Israel
 
Whiskey is the only way to go. #science
 
HennyBogan said:
Wave

Wave all you want, nobody gives a **** what you think
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:rolleyes:....apparently YOU give a **** what he thinks.

Calm down man.

He's right. The BS meter is flashing on your "where I live" remarks.

Got any links to this remarkable (allegedly) occurrence in that "small village"? Such an occurrence would surely be a major news event that would garner local, national and even international news coverage.

Sorry, but you're not a credible source.
 
Razoo said:
We can’t solve this global health crisis by throwing more vaccines and pharmaceutical drugs at it.

COVID-19 Deadly Serious

As COVID-19 claims its 1 millionth death, one thing has become clear: We can’t solve this global health crisis by throwing more vaccines and pharmaceutical drugs at it.

What's really driving COVID deaths? Archives - Organic Consumers

Pre-existing conditions like heart disease, diabetes, dementia and obesity are turning a bad case of flu into a deadly pandemic
www.organicconsumers.org www.organicconsumers.org

The greatest risk factor for death from COVID-19 is poor health. According to the CDC, 94 percent of death certificates for COVID-19 victims in the U.S. were in people with pre-existing health conditions including diabetes, obesity, heart disease, lung disease, kidney disease, dementia and hypertension.


These health conditions are the real 21st century plague, caused by the non-stop consumption of addictive junk foods that make-up 60 percent or more of the calories in the typical American diet. Calorie- and chemical-laden, they destroy our health, our gut microbiomes and our immune systems, leaving us, as individuals, vulnerable to disease and our world vulnerable to destructive pandemics.



We must stop believing the industry propaganda spouted by Big Food, Big Ag and Big Pharma that chronic disease and the co-morbidities that accompany the vast majority of COVID-19 deaths are “normal” or “natural.” They’re not!



Our global health emergency cannot be solved without a fundamental change in our diets and our industrialized Big Ag and Big Food practices.

  1. COVID-19 Deadly Serious We can’t solve this global health crisis by throwing more vaccines and pharmaceutical drugs at it.
    COVID-19 Deadly Serious As COVID-19 claims its 1 millionth death, one thing has become clear...
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Nope.

Geez, if I didn't know better I would expect you to start selling us on Herbalife, Young Living, Amway, Shaklee and collodial silver.

Covid is killing lots of people that are physically fit.
 
Razoo said:
We can’t solve this global health crisis by throwing more vaccines and pharmaceutical drugs at it.

COVID-19 Deadly Serious

As COVID-19 claims its 1 millionth death, one thing has become clear: We can’t solve this global health crisis by throwing more vaccines and pharmaceutical drugs at it.

What's really driving COVID deaths? Archives - Organic Consumers

Pre-existing conditions like heart disease, diabetes, dementia and obesity are turning a bad case of flu into a deadly pandemic
www.organicconsumers.org www.organicconsumers.org

The greatest risk factor for death from COVID-19 is poor health. According to the CDC, 94 percent of death certificates for COVID-19 victims in the U.S. were in people with pre-existing health conditions including diabetes, obesity, heart disease, lung disease, kidney disease, dementia and hypertension.


These health conditions are the real 21st century plague, caused by the non-stop consumption of addictive junk foods that make-up 60 percent or more of the calories in the typical American diet. Calorie- and chemical-laden, they destroy our health, our gut microbiomes and our immune systems, leaving us, as individuals, vulnerable to disease and our world vulnerable to destructive pandemics.



We must stop believing the industry propaganda spouted by Big Food, Big Ag and Big Pharma that chronic disease and the co-morbidities that accompany the vast majority of COVID-19 deaths are “normal” or “natural.” They’re not!



Our global health emergency cannot be solved without a fundamental change in our diets and our industrialized Big Ag and Big Food practices.

  1. COVID-19 Deadly Serious We can’t solve this global health crisis by throwing more vaccines and pharmaceutical drugs at it.
    COVID-19 Deadly Serious As COVID-19 claims its 1 millionth death, one thing has become clear...
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In 1778, the British explorer Capt. James Cook became probably the first European to encounter the Hawaiian Islands.
Although greeted warmly at first, (especially by the women) Cook's first "gifts", gonorrhea and syphilis, cut a swath through the women who hooked up with the crew.
Almost immediately after, measles, chicken pox, polio and tuberculosis swept through the native Hawaiian population, and even common cold viruses became epidemics.

To be sure, cold viruses had infected the natives before, but NOT the European strains carried by Cook's crew.
The result was a population of almost 650 thousand being exposed to "novel" viruses (virii) that their immune systems were wholly unprepared for.
Same goes for measles, chicken pox, polio and tuberculosis.
The native Hawaiians had never encountered anything like them before.

And that is the key point here, the word "NOVEL", as in "heretofore UNSEEN in human beings" and COVID-19 is indeed a novel coronavirus.
This article's advice is rather generalized, because everyone knows that if are especially healthy, you will certainly fare better fighting almost any disease.
But when it comes to a novel virus, more often than not your genetics may play as much of a role in the outcome as your overall health.
 
HennyBogan said:
How’s all that working out for you?
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Quite well, actually.


HennyBogan said:
Check out the latest studies from Israel
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I'm well aware of the latest studies from around the globe, actually.

I'm pretty sure you don't want to get into a debate with me about what the science says, but.....if don't let me dissuade you.

Have you actually read what you're citing, above? If so, I doubt seriously that you understood what you read.
 
Razoo said:
The greatest risk factor for death from COVID-19 is poor health. According to the CDC, 94 percent of death certificates for COVID-19 victims in the U.S. were in people with pre-existing health conditions including diabetes, obesity, heart disease, lung disease, kidney disease, dementia and hypertension.
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The CDC also notes that as of this week, one in FIVE HUNDRED Americans have died of this virus.
Among that number it's guaranteed there are plenty of previously healthy people, and as the virus continues to mutate there is no question that some mutations will leverage cracks in the armor of healthy people just as easily as the unhealthy.

By the way, none of this is a rebuttal against the general message that we need to be healthier...of course you and the CDC are both right.
However when it comes to a deadly novel virus, good health is only going to do so much.
It will not stop the spread or eliminate deaths altogether.
Best chance is you may see a twenty percent reduction in mortality, and that is certainly a big deal.
But it's not a panacea.
 
ultmd said:
Quite well, actually.



I'm well aware of the latest studies from around the globe, actually.

I'm pretty sure you don't want to get into a debate with me about what the science says, but.....if don't let me dissuade you.

Have you actually read what you're citing, above? If so, I doubt seriously that you understood what you read.
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Israel's problems mirror our own, a large segment of the population that simply refuses to inoculate....AND a large segment that has refused all along to EVEN mask up or socially distance.
TO THE POINT OF VIOLENT CONFRONTATIONS!
Guess who?

The hardcore FUNDAMENTALIST segment of their religious population, that's who.
 
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