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Driving With Cell Phones

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ebmonkey2

A note to all, on behalf of the Youth Democratic Party Of Ohio I am stating my opinion. It is a danger to all people on the road, and it must be stopped. I am talking about driving with cell phones. Whether they are hand-held or hands free they are a problem. There is research to back this up. Over 224 million people in the United States used cellular phones as of October 2006 compared to 4.3 million in 1990. Over 10 million of these talkers use there cell phones while driving.
 
It's funny you should post this today... Just today, we nearly had a car accident when my dad answered his mobile phone while driving. :shock:
So I agree with you, people shouldn't be talking on their mobiles and driving at the same time. If it's absolutely necessary to answer, they could pull over to the side of the road or something.
 
Improved technology does not make the people using it necessarily smarter....:doh
 
sometimes i willingly walk infront of cars when I see the driver is yacking away his cellphone. Hopefully when I get hit someday it will cause a wave anti-cellphone-while-you-drive-awareness.

But with my luck, some detective is going to discover I deliberately got myself into that sistuation. Bastards..
 
I saw a study a few weeks ago that said Cell Phones and driving is significantly worse mixture than alcohol and driving.

I did not find it specifically here but here are some recent studies.

Cell Phones and Driving


"the quarterly journal of the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society, concludes that talking on a cell phone while driving is as dangerous as driving drunk"

Bad driving 'linked to hormones'


Basically if you are a woman who had a drink and carry a cell phone you should carry a will with you if you are going to step into the drivers seat. God help you if you then pick up hot coffee in the drive through and then light a cigarette at the same time while fixing your make up.
 
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Isn't talking to a hand-free phone kinda similar like speaking to a co-driver?
You are not even misled to care for facial expressions when talking to a hand-free phone. I you are in a situation where you have to be very concentrated, you can pause the talk in both cases.
 
ebmonkey2 said:
A note to all, on behalf of the Youth Democratic Party Of Ohio I am stating my opinion. It is a danger to all people on the road, and it must be stopped. I am talking about driving with cell phones. Whether they are hand-held or hands free they are a problem. There is research to back this up. Over 224 million people in the United States used cellular phones as of October 2006 compared to 4.3 million in 1990. Over 10 million of these talkers use there cell phones while driving.

And...

Don't sing,
change the radio station,
or CD,
light a smoke,
roll a fattie,
talk to someone else in the car,
pick the lettuce off of you hamburger,
eat that hamburger,
get a hummer,
say g-g-g-g-iddyup,

you with me yet?

Listen junior, you have got a lotta friggin nerve putting Monkey in your name to begin with. I'll be back for that one. There are a gazillion things not to do when driving. Most people do two or three of them at the same time.

I can dail my cell, sing along to ABBA and oogle babes at the same time.

Some people can't press the gas and use the turn signal at the same time.

I'm guessing you fall under the later category.

Democratic youth party? Get a life, get laid, watch TV, go home to the zoo.

That's your opinion and you started a whole thread about it?

Here's my opinion...

you suck.
 
teacher said:
And...

Don't sing,
change the radio station,
or CD,
light a smoke,
roll a fattie,
talk to someone else in the car,
pick the lettuce off of you hamburger,
eat that hamburger,
get a hummer,
say g-g-g-g-iddyup,

you with me yet?

Listen junior, you have got a lotta friggin nerve putting Monkey in your name to begin with. I'll be back for that one. There are a gazillion things not to do when driving. Most people do two or three of them at the same time.

I can dail my cell, sing along to ABBA and oogle babes at the same time.

Some people can't press the gas and use the turn signal at the same time.

I'm guessing you fall under the later category.

Democratic youth party? Get a life, get laid, watch TV, go home to the zoo.

That's your opinion and you started a whole thread about it?

Here's my opinion...

you suck.


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Pretty much a hero.
 
teacher said:
Here's my opinion...

you suck.

No reason for that teach, come on. Keep it within your realm.
 
teach does raise a good point in the first part of his post though...Numerous studies have shown that there is no tangible benefit to using a hands-free device as opposed to simply calling someone on a regular cell-phone. The reason for the increase in accidents is not because of the act of making the call, but because of the distraction that it creates.

However, things such as the radio, food, beverages, passengers, and kids in the backseat also cause the exact same type of distraction. Should these all be outlawed as well?

I think that regulations on what people do in their cars is ridiculous. If they cause an accident, then that's their own fault. Punish them for breaking the law, and if they injure someone else, let them sue. The current crop of laws simply caters to the nanny-mentality of people who would rather feel safe than be safe and simply gives localities another source of revenue.
 
RightatNYU said:
No reason for that teach, come on. Keep it within your realm.

I know, my bad. Sorry. I was at the library when I submitted that and then I was like, "better not", what with my polite reputation and all, but then I was also thinking, "maybe I can get some warning points outta this" which makes me a bad boy, and us REAL men know how the babes (Helloooo Tashah) love the bad boy (me), and whilst I was pondering my dilemma the library closed and that was that. So, where's my damn warning points? I mean come on, you just gave me the internet equivalent of shaking you finger at me and saying something that begins with "young man", which I'm sure is all well and good in your mind, especially after I look and sound all remorseful and with watery eyes ask "can you ever forgive me" backed up with "can I get a hug", which you give and which allows me the opportunity to stick a paper on your back on which is written...


I suck.
 
teacher said:
And...

Don't sing,
change the radio station,
or CD,
light a smoke,
roll a fattie,
talk to someone else in the car,
pick the lettuce off of you hamburger,
eat that hamburger,
get a hummer,
say g-g-g-g-iddyup,

you with me yet?

Listen junior, you have got a lotta friggin nerve putting Monkey in your name to begin with. I'll be back for that one. There are a gazillion things not to do when driving. Most people do two or three of them at the same time.

I can dail my cell, sing along to ABBA and oogle babes at the same time.

Some people can't press the gas and use the turn signal at the same time.

I'm guessing you fall under the later category.

Democratic youth party? Get a life, get laid, watch TV, go home to the zoo.

That's your opinion and you started a whole thread about it?

Here's my opinion...

you suck.
Best. Post. Ever.
 
ebmonkey2 said:
A note to all, on behalf of the Youth Democratic Party Of Ohio I am stating my opinion. It is a danger to all people on the road, and it must be stopped. I am talking about driving with cell phones. Whether they are hand-held or hands free they are a problem. There is research to back this up. Over 224 million people in the United States used cellular phones as of October 2006 compared to 4.3 million in 1990. Over 10 million of these talkers use there cell phones while driving.

Crashes 1990: 6,471,000
Crashes 2003: 6,328,000
Peak, 1996: 6,770,000
(source: http://www.bts.gov/publications/nat...atistics/2005/html/table_highway_profile.html )

Crashes 2005: 6,159,000
(source: http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/departments/nrd-30/ncsa/AvailInf.html# )

So, compared to 1990, 2005 had over 300,000 fewer accidents; over 600,000 fewer compared to the peak in 1996.

How do you reconcile a 5-10% reduction in accidents and a 5000% increase in cell phones over the same period with your claim about an increase in danger?
 
Volker said:
Isn't talking to a hand-free phone kinda similar like speaking to a co-driver?
You are not even misled to care for facial expressions when talking to a hand-free phone. I you are in a situation where you have to be very concentrated, you can pause the talk in both cases.

I disagree. I lose more concentration when I am listening to someone on the phone while I am driving (hand free) versus someone in the car.

Would others agree?
 
Volker said:
Isn't talking to a hand-free phone kinda similar like speaking to a co-driver?
You are not even misled to care for facial expressions when talking to a hand-free phone. I you are in a situation where you have to be very concentrated, you can pause the talk in both cases.

There are studies I have read, and no I don't have save copies of them, that talking to someone in the car is, yes, like a co-driver who is also watching out for what is going on. The person is there so there is no zoning out like on a phone where you are imagining the person you are talking about. Whatever it is it is just different and the awareness factor doesn't drop nearly as much.
 
RightatNYU said:
teach does raise a good point in the first part of his post though...Numerous studies have shown that there is no tangible benefit to using a hands-free device as opposed to simply calling someone on a regular cell-phone. The reason for the increase in accidents is not because of the act of making the call, but because of the distraction that it creates.

Yep, that you are drawn into a focused converstation and it takes away your awareness of what is going on around you.

However, things such as the radio, food, beverages, passengers, and kids in the backseat also cause the exact same type of distraction.

I think there are studies out there that show that they are not the same kinds of distractions.

Should these all be outlawed as well?

Actually some of them are, in most states you cannot eat while you drive. And if an officer sees you are driving in an unsafe condition, like trying to bat the kids in the back, you can be cited.

I think that regulations on what people do in their cars is ridiculous. If they cause an accident, then that's their own fault.

And when they kill me it is their fault.

Punish them for breaking the law, and if they injure someone else, let them sue.

Well if I'm dead or seriously disabled for life that is a small consulatoin isn't it.

The current crop of laws simply caters to the nanny-mentality of people who would rather feel safe than be safe and simply gives localities another source of revenue.

The laws to ban talking on cell-phones while driving are to protect OTHERS from the talker/drivers who present a danger while talking.

I have been in a job that requires me to travel by car every week over a pretty large territory for 30 years now. I have lots of exposure out there. The number of incidences where someone does something wrong or stupid that might have caused a wreck have gone up substantially as the use of cell phones have increased, in my personal experience. I used to be against such laws but the problem keeps getting worse.
 
aps said:
I disagree. I lose more concentration when I am listening to someone on the phone while I am driving (hand free) versus someone in the car.

Would others agree?

I disagree. As an individual with a y-chromosome, I can drive under any conditions with multiple distractions at approximately 25 miles over the speed limit without any noticeable loss of control. It would probably be more effective to ban women drivers in toto.:lol: ;)
 
RightatNYU said:
I disagree. As an individual with a y-chromosome, I can drive under any conditions with multiple distractions at approximately 25 miles over the speed limit without any noticeable loss of control. It would probably be more effective to ban women drivers in toto.:lol: ;)

Alright there, Mr. Macho. ;)
 
aps said:
I disagree. I lose more concentration when I am listening to someone on the phone while I am driving (hand free) versus someone in the car.

Would others agree?
Ok, maybe people are more used to talk to co-drivers while driving, to talk to the phone might be a different situation which demands more concentration.
 
Stinger said:
There are studies I have read, and no I don't have save copies of them, that talking to someone in the car is, yes, like a co-driver who is also watching out for what is going on. The person is there so there is no zoning out like on a phone where you are imagining the person you are talking about. Whatever it is it is just different and the awareness factor doesn't drop nearly as much.
Maybe it depends on who is your co-driver :mrgreen:

Well, if there are studies to show this, I won't argue with it.
I don't know about studies to back up my opinion.
 
About one year ago, i saw a episode of "mythbusters" when they tried driving while talking in the cell phone, and driving when they were drunk. That test showed that people lowered their consentration and reaction. And in most of the cases, the drunk drivers did better then the drivers who talked in the phone.
 
Victorious Art said:
About one year ago, i saw a episode of "mythbusters" when they tried driving while talking in the cell phone, and driving when they were drunk. That test showed that people lowered their consentration and reaction. And in most of the cases, the drunk drivers did better then the drivers who talked in the phone.
Only MOST of the cases? That makes me feel safer on the roads! :lol:

Seriously, I see people talking on the phone all of the time, and they are all over the road. You can tell that they are not giving driving nearly the amount of attention that they should. It is different than having someone in the car with you, carrying on a conversation. In that case, the other person is paying some attention to the traffic, etc, and will break off at appropriate times to allow the driver to give full attention when necessary. Someone on the other end of a phone isn't able to do that.

I don't talk on the phone and drive. I'm too busy watching out for the other people who are so they don't hit me! ;)

*edited because I misread the post.
 
Re: Driving With Monkey Butlers.

And how many lives can we save if we mandate helmets being worn while driving?

HANS devices?

Force me to remove the blender I make Margarita's with from the dashboard?

Come on folks, you gotta draw the line somewhere.
 
Re: Driving With Monkey Butlers.

teacher said:
And how many lives can we save if we mandate helmets being worn while driving?

Nothing is preventing you from wearing one but whether you do or not does not make you safer vis-a-vis me. Talking on a cell phone DOES make you more dangerous vis-a-vis me.

HANS devices?

See above.


Come on folks, you gotta draw the line somewhere.

Yes, if the activity you are engaged in makes you a hazard to others who are sharing the road with you.
 
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