• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every persons position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

Drink Driving

vergiss

DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 31, 2005
Messages
2,356
Reaction score
1
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Right. I love my friends to death. However, been the teenage males that they are, they can be incredibly stupid when drunk. Uncharacteristically stupid, considering how most of them are in gifted education programmes or on college scholarships for academic reasons. I know that there have been times they've driven under the influence - once or twice I've seen them do it. Of course, I always know it's wrong, and definitely never get in the car with them.

Solutions? I don't want them hurting themselves or other people. Nagging them do death is useless (and, thanks to the wonder of peer pressure, will end up getting me rolled eyes and deathstares). I know it's a disgusting thing to do, but it's also so strange considering how lovely and smart they are when sober. What would you do if a friend was drunk and about to take his car out?
 

kal-el

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 22, 2005
Messages
3,412
Reaction score
8
Location
United States
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
vergiss said:
Right. I love my friends to death. However, been the teenage males that they are, they can be incredibly stupid when drunk. Uncharacteristically stupid, considering how most of them are in gifted education programmes or on college scholarships for academic reasons. I know that there have been times they've driven under the influence - once or twice I've seen them do it. Of course, I always know it's wrong, and definitely never get in the car with them.

Solutions? I don't want them hurting themselves or other people. Nagging them do death is useless (and, thanks to the wonder of peer pressure, will end up getting me rolled eyes and deathstares). I know it's a disgusting thing to do, but it's also so strange considering how lovely and smart they are when sober. What would you do if a friend was drunk and about to take his car out?
Well, vergiss, I myself unfortunately have 2 DUI's. I got them years ago when I was younger. I deeply regret the possibility of killing innocent people and/or myself. The last DUI I obtained, my best friend at the time offered me the alternative to staying at his house, heck he even punched out my car window trying to stop me from leaving. I think he probably should have just grabbed my keys or simply pushed me over (my bac was .35!).
 

vergiss

DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 31, 2005
Messages
2,356
Reaction score
1
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
...So I try to steal their keys? :mrgreen:

Alas. I'm tiny and lack any strength. :(
 

kal-el

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 22, 2005
Messages
3,412
Reaction score
8
Location
United States
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Well, sometimes it's not that easy. Maybe you could flatten their tires or pull some spark plugs out or something.
 

Arch Enemy

Familiaist
DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 27, 2005
Messages
7,470
Reaction score
2,085
Location
North Carolina
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Conservative
Just slap them in the face and tell them what you mean. At a church camp, my friend was on cloud-9, we smacked him in the fact and he pulled himself together (minutes before the final proformance)
 

shuamort

Pundit-licious
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 4, 2005
Messages
7,297
Reaction score
1,000
Location
Saint Paul, MN
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
vergiss said:
What would you do if a friend was drunk and about to take his car out?
Threaten to call the police. Follow through if need be. It's not just their lives that should cause concern, but anyone else out on the road.
 

Kelzie

The Almighty
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 23, 2005
Messages
13,534
Reaction score
1,000
Location
Denver, CO
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Liberal
Steal their keys and hide them. Don't have to be big to do that.
 

cnredd

Major General Big Lug
DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 5, 2005
Messages
8,682
Reaction score
262
Location
Philadelphia,PA
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Conservative
new coup for you said:
man i love living where i live. i get utterly plastered at least twice a week but i just take the el home so i'm always safe.
Got ya beat...I'm within walking (crawling?) distance from my local "establishment"...
 

LaMidRighter

Klattu Verata Nicto
DP Veteran
Joined
May 19, 2005
Messages
30,534
Reaction score
10,682
Location
Louisiana
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Right
Get someone to distract them, then disconnect a ground wire or fuse related to the computer or fuel injector system in the car, that eliminates their choice of driving, fix "problem" in morning.
 

vergiss

DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 31, 2005
Messages
2,356
Reaction score
1
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Well, that all works when I'm actually there... but what if I'm not present at the time? What can I do to scare them out of being idiots, if freaky TV ads haven't even worked? Sigh.
 

LaMidRighter

Klattu Verata Nicto
DP Veteran
Joined
May 19, 2005
Messages
30,534
Reaction score
10,682
Location
Louisiana
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Right
vergiss said:
Well, that all works when I'm actually there... but what if I'm not present at the time? What can I do to scare them out of being idiots, if freaky TV ads haven't even worked? Sigh.
Talk to a police officer about the situation, don't give your buddy's name however, and get horror stories about scenes they have worked where the driver at fault was intoxicated, also, get a few stories about drivers who drank but were within the legal limit and still had a fatal accident, or killed someone, you have a first hand account and when you have the police officers opinions and emotions behind it the tactic becomes very real, tangible, and credible.
 

LaMidRighter

Klattu Verata Nicto
DP Veteran
Joined
May 19, 2005
Messages
30,534
Reaction score
10,682
Location
Louisiana
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Right
Speaking to the police officer who arrested me after the court stuff was done accomplished alot, as per the suggestion.
 

IValueFreedom

Member
Joined
Jul 23, 2005
Messages
168
Reaction score
0
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Liberal
vergiss said:
Right. I love my friends to death. However, been the teenage males that they are, they can be incredibly stupid when drunk. Uncharacteristically stupid, considering how most of them are in gifted education programmes or on college scholarships for academic reasons. I know that there have been times they've driven under the influence - once or twice I've seen them do it. Of course, I always know it's wrong, and definitely never get in the car with them.

Solutions? I don't want them hurting themselves or other people. Nagging them do death is useless (and, thanks to the wonder of peer pressure, will end up getting me rolled eyes and deathstares). I know it's a disgusting thing to do, but it's also so strange considering how lovely and smart they are when sober. What would you do if a friend was drunk and about to take his car out?
Umm... tough position you're in.

Anyways, when I was younger, I would grab their keys as I handed them a beer. I used to be the key collector and would always make sure that they were okay to drive back. It led to a couple fights, but drunk people are pretty easy to take, but unfortunately they go too hard because they don't really feel pain, unlike the sober guy (me). As for friendships, I've never had any problems the day after. That night can be sketchy, but the day after everyone knows your intentions were good, and they won't give you any **** about it.

Good luck to both you and your friends. They're lucky to have you.
 

vergiss

DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 31, 2005
Messages
2,356
Reaction score
1
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Thanks guys. I'll be as stubborn as it takes.
 

mistermain

Member
Joined
Aug 26, 2005
Messages
199
Reaction score
0
Location
Las Vegas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
These are good suggestions. Whatever you do, make sure you don't let them go. My buddy is doing five years in the pen, because none of the people he was with stopped him from getting in his car (I'm not trying to replace blame, he is at fault, just unfortunate that nobody had the sense to "smack him"). He hit some girl walking home from work. I feel for him but even more for her, she's basically a vegetable.

They may hate you now, but five years from now they will be thanking you, I promise.
 
Top Bottom