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DP Star Wars Film Ranking Game

AtlantaAdonis

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Okay you ingrates, so here's how this works:
1. Each Star Wars Film will start with 100 points!
2. Vote up one film by 2 points, another up by 1 point. Vote down one film 2 points, and another down 1 point. They must be 4 different films. Indicate in your post which ones you are choosing.
3. When you vote, update the point totals from the most recent post in your post.
4. If your vote changes the order of point totals, change the order so it's correct.
5. You may only vote once per calendar day.
6. On May 4th at 11:59PM ET, the standings are final.
7. Rules will be community-enforced. If point totals need to be corrected for some reason, indicate where the mistake was made clearly and fix it.

Okay, I will start us out
+2 The Last Jedi (for it's great representation and diversity and for being a great feminist film)
+1 The Force Awakens (the same)
-1 Return of the Jedi (for objectification of Carrie Fisher)
-2 A New Hope (sexist damsel in distress trope)

The Last Jedi 102
The Force Awakens 101
The Phantom Menace 100
Attack of the Clones 100
Revenge of the Sith 100
Rogue One 100
Empire Strikes Back 100
Return of the Jedi 99
A New Hope 98
 
Rogue One +2 - Best original story, great characters and plot
New Hope +1 - A great classic that started a genre
The Force Awakens - 1 - Recycled all major plot points, but kind of fun
Attack of the Clones - 2 - Just all around boring.

The Last Jedi 102
The Force Awakens 100
The Phantom Menace 100
Attack of the Clones 98
Revenge of the Sith 100
Rogue One 102
Empire Strikes Back 100
Return of the Jedi 99
A New Hope 99

As you can see I put a lot of emphasis on originality. I absolutely hate the "let's build a death-star like device 3 times over" theme.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
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Okay, I will start us out
+2 The Last Jedi (for it's great representation and diversity and for being a great feminist film)
+1 The Force Awakens (the same)
-1 Return of the Jedi (for objectification of Carrie Fisher)
-2 A New Hope (sexist damsel in distress trope)
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:doh

The Anita Sarkeesian "Dark Side" is strong in you.

:inandout:
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
Rogue One +2 - Best original story, great characters and plot
New Hope +1 - A great classic that started a genre
The Force Awakens - 1 - Recycled all major plot points, but kind of fun
Attack of the Clones - 2 - Just all around boring.

The Last Jedi 102
The Force Awakens 100
The Phantom Menace 100
Attack of the Clones 98
Revenge of the Sith 100
Rogue One 102
Empire Strikes Back 100
Return of the Jedi 99
A New Hope 99

As you can see I put a lot of emphasis on originality. I absolutely hate the "let's build a death-star like device 3 times over" theme.
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+2 AotC, since it was the first Star Wars movie I could remember as a small child.
+1 RotJ for Darth Vader's redemption.
-1 TLJ for masterfully subverting the ideas of character arcs and advancing the storyline.
-2 RO for not including an opening screen crawl like all the real Star Wars movies.

TLJ 101
TFA 100
TPM 100
AOTC 100
ROTS 100
RO 100
ESB 100 ROTJ 100
ANH 99
 
The Last Jedi +2
Empire Strikes Back +1
Attack of the Clones -1
A New Hope -2

The Last Jedi 103
The Empire Strikes Back 101
The Force Awakens 100
The Phantom Menace 100
Revenge of the Sith 100
Rogue One 100
Return of the Jedi 100
Attack of the Clones 99
A New Hope 97
 
The Empire Strikes Back +2 (artistic perfection, perfect villain and portrayal, great dynamic between Luke, Han, Chewie, Lea. Lando could have ruined it, but he pulled it off too. Epic scenes deftly woven together into a thrilling, memorable experience)
A New Hope +1 (sets the stage for a wonderful movie experience, edgier than expected, limbs flying, bounty hunters blasted...wow).

Force Awakes -2 (hastily thrown together mish-mash of mainstream tropes and ideas that do not work in any enjoyable or artistic way.)
The Last Jedi -1 (worse than FA but FA set the tone, so it takes the lead on the worst. Last Jedi was an epic tale of how do to everything wrong, in the wrong way, with the wrong writing and actors and emphasis)

Honorable mention: Rogue One
wow, edginess returns, a more mature and professional presentation in the star wars universe. The imperial robot partner <3, perfect comedy and yet serious/tragic. The blind guy and heavy support were heavy-handed, but still enjoyable. Attempted to show a rebellion more like you know...a rebellion.

The middle movies had some great scenes, but Anakin and Jar Jar to a lesser extent, ruined them as a whole. They could have survived Jar jar, but not Annie.
Even with it's flaws, the Darth Maul scene was memorable and epic, yoda's fight was a surprise bit of fun for fans, special effects and city-scapes were beautiful and well-realized.
 
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Updated points after Mach's Post

The Empire Strikes Back 103
The Last Jedi 102
The Phantom Menace 100
Revenge of the Sith 100
Rogue One 100
Return of the Jedi 100
Attack of the Clones 99
A New Hope 98
The Force Awakens 98
 
The Last Jedi +2
Force Awakens +1
Rogue One -1
A New Hope -2

The Last Jedi 104
The Empire Strikes Back 103
The Phantom Menace 100
Revenge of the Sith 100
Return of the Jedi 100
The Force Awakens 99
Rogue One 99
Attack of the Clones 99
A New Hope 96
 
Rogue One +2
Return Of The Jedi +1
Phantom Menace -1
The Last Jeudi -2


The Empire Strikes Back 103
The Last Jedi 102
Rogue One 101
Revenge of the Sith 100
Return of the Jedi 100
The Phantom Menace 99
The Force Awakens 99
Attack of the Clones 99
A New Hope 96
 
Empire Strikes Back +2
Return of the Jedi +1
Phantom Menace -2
Attack of the Clones -1

The Empire Strikes Back 105
The Last Jedi 102
Rogue One 101
Revenge of the Sith 100
Return of the Jedi 101
The Phantom Menace 97
The Force Awakens 99
Attack of the Clones 98
A New Hope 96

Just as a point of contention. A New Hope being lower than the prequels is complete crap. I think it's a good movie, and the first one too; it really established everything well. The prequels are absolute garbage. The only one with the slightest bit of redeemable factors to it is Revenge of the Sith, and that's really only because it has Obi wan vs Anakan, and even that battle could have been far more epic.
 
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Ikari said:
Just as a point of contention. A New Hope being lower than the prequels is complete crap. I think it's a good movie, and the first one too; it really established everything well. The prequels are absolute garbage. The only one with the slightest bit of redeemable factors to it is Revenge of the Sith, and that's really only because it has Obi wan vs Anakan, and even that battle could have been far more epic.
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If you think a movie is too low, vote it up!

+2 Phantom Menace (because Natalie Port's character is really bad-***)
+1 Revenge of the Sith
-1 Clones
-2 Empire Strikes Back

The Empire Strikes Back 103
The Last Jedi 102
Rogue One 101
Revenge of the Sith 101
Return of the Jedi 101
The Phantom Menace 99
The Force Awakens 99
Attack of the Clones 97
A New Hope 96
 
+2 Phantom Menace
+1 Force Awakens
-1 Clones
-2 Empire Strikes Back

The Last Jedi 102
The Empire Strikes Back 101
Rogue One 101
Revenge of the Sith 101
Return of the Jedi 101
The Phantom Menace 101
The Force Awakens 100
Attack of the Clones 96
A New Hope 96
 
+2 A New Hope (the original is easily the best)
+1 Revenge of the Sith (the scene where Anakin turns is great)
-1 Attack of the Clones (awful acting, awful script, heavy political cliches)
-2 The Force Awakens (it's the only one of the new films I've seen, and it was awful in just about every way)

The Last Jedi 102
Revenge of the Sith 102
The Empire Strikes Back 101
Rogue One 101
Return of the Jedi 101
The Phantom Menace 101
The Force Awakens 98
A New Hope 98
Attack of the Clones 95
 
+2 RoTJ (My absolute favourite as a kid - it's where Luke became a badass, Saarlac sequence? Amazing. Plus, stormtroopers vs ewoks)
+1 TLJ (Subverted Star Wars which was great)
-1 ESB (Was probably too young to really appreciate it but I always felt it was overrated)
-2 AotC (Terrible acting)

The Last Jedi 103
Return of the Jedi 103
Revenge of the Sith 102
The Empire Strikes Back 100
Rogue One 101
The Phantom Menace 101
The Empire Strikes Back 100
The Force Awakens 98
A New Hope 98
Attack of the Clones 93
 
+2 Empire Strikes Back - Absolute pinnacle of the franchise. Introduced a great characters in Yoda, Lando, and the Emperor. The growing chemistry between Han and Leia is amazing. And of course that absolutely amazing lightsaber duel and cliff hanger ending.

+1 A New Hope - How is this one being voted down? If this movie wasn't amazing, none of the other ones would've followed.

-1 The Last Jedi - I could go on and on about the ways this disappointed me. Rey's continued I need no arc because I'm already perfect. The laziness of killing off Snoke while giving no explanation about who he is or where he came from (heck I'm still fuzzy on while the Empire is now called the First Order and the New Republic and Resistance are separate entities). Luke's death being so stupid. If you're going to kill a hero like Luke, at least let him be there in person! The whole casino planet side plot being pointless. Leia's Mary Poppins like flight through space. And I actually have more issues, but I'll stop here.

-2 The Phantom Menace - My God was this a hot mess. Jar Jar Binks and Jake Lloyd's acting alone are enough to rank it at the bottom of the franchise. Plus we got midichlorians. And Anakin becomes space Jesus complete with an immaculate conception.

Return of the Jedi 103
Revenge of the Sith 102
The Empire Strikes Back 102
The Last Jedi 102
Rogue One 101
A New Hope 99
The Phantom Menace 99
The Force Awakens 98
Attack of the Clones 93
 
Ikari said:
Just as a point of contention. A New Hope being lower than the prequels is complete crap. I think it's a good movie, and the first one too; it really established everything well. The prequels are absolute garbage. The only one with the slightest bit of redeemable factors to it is Revenge of the Sith, and that's really only because it has Obi wan vs Anakan, and even that battle could have been far more epic.
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Actually, I was majorly disappointed by the Obi-Wan vs Anakin duel. It was the same old highly choreographed, emotionless stuff we saw all through the prequels. And it was needlessly overdone with them climbing up the thing that fell into the lava and then fighting while on the little platforms above the lava. Blah, blah, blah. Almost no actual interaction once the fight began except for the stull at the end. Compare that to the dialogue in all three of the light saber duels in the original trilogy. This was a fight of brother against brother. It should've been nasty, down and dirty, emotional.

And the high ground stuff was nonsense. No one can explain why Anakin took such risky, highly telegraphed route of attack when he could've just hopped off the little floaty thing and charged up the hill. Nonsense. Pure nonsense. The only part that was worthy of characters was the aftermath when Anakin's hatred and resentment come shining through as he screeches "I hate you!" trying desperately to claw his way towards Obi-Wan while burned and dismembered and Obi-Wan can only look down on him with pity and shame. That had an emotional impact far greater than any eye candy we saw before it.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Okay you ingrates, so here's how this works:
1. Each Star Wars Film will start with 100 points!
2. Vote up one film by 2 points, another up by 1 point. Vote down one film 2 points, and another down 1 point. They must be 4 different films. Indicate in your post which ones you are choosing.
3. When you vote, update the point totals from the most recent post in your post.
4. If your vote changes the order of point totals, change the order so it's correct.
5. You may only vote once per calendar day.
6. On May 4th at 11:59PM ET, the standings are final.
7. Rules will be community-enforced. If point totals need to be corrected for some reason, indicate where the mistake was made clearly and fix it.

Okay, I will start us out
+2 The Last Jedi (for it's great representation and diversity and for being a great feminist film)
+1 The Force Awakens (the same)
-1 Return of the Jedi (for objectification of Carrie Fisher)
-2 A New Hope (sexist damsel in distress trope)

The Last Jedi 102
The Force Awakens 101
The Phantom Menace 100
Attack of the Clones 100
Revenge of the Sith 100
Rogue One 100
Empire Strikes Back 100
Return of the Jedi 99
A New Hope 98
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+2 Phantom Menace. I think I was the intended audience for that film. political geeky kids. I was 10 years old at the time. We existed back then, and I love the political commentary. I loved the politics and Jar Jar. I must have watched the movie more times than any of the others.
+1 Return of the Jedi- Favorite of the OS.
-1 The Force Awakens. Too. Much. Mashup/rehashing of OS.
-1 A New Hope. Too simplistic. Spent too much time in that damn asteroid.

*stupid rules. Wish I could grade more, but these are the four I have stronger feelings about. I just finished watching the Last Jedi. One of my favorites out of the whole series, but really predictable at times too. So it didn't beat Return of the Jedi.
 
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Psychoclown said:
And Anakin becomes space Jesus complete with an immaculate conception.
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Not really sure why people have a problem w/this. How did you watch the other two movies if this bothered you that much? And if you didn't, then you didn't get the whole story of vader.
 
+2 Empire Strikes Back
+1 A New Hope
-1 The Last Jedi
-2 The Phantom Menace

(Adding NeverTrumpGOP's votes as well, I assume he meant to vote -2 for a New Hope)

The Empire Strikes Back 104
Return of the Jedi 104
Revenge of the Sith 102
The Last Jedi 101
Rogue One 101
The Phantom Menace 99
A New Hope 98
The Force Awakens 97
Attack of the Clones 93
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Not really sure why people have a problem w/this. How did you watch the other two movies if this bothered you that much? And if you didn't, then you didn't get the whole story of vader.
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I basically ignored the Space Jesus stuff (and of the things I mentioned, it was probably the least annoying or problematic) and did watch the other two prequels which got better (a little) but never came close to matching up to the original trilogy. What was implied in Revenge of the Sith, that Darth Plageius created Anakin by manipulating the force kind of made up for it, but the old EU then rejected that theory and told us the force itself conceived Anakin as a countermeasure to Plageius and Sidious's manipulations, bringing us back to Space Jesus. But now the old EU has been set aside, so I'm not sure where that stands. The new EU is kind of odd in that it builds on and references things from the old EU, but its hard to know what from the old EU is still considered cannon unless it is explicitly referenced or mentioned.
 
+2 Empire Strikes Back
+1 A New Hope
-1 The Last Jedi
-2 The Phantom Menace


The Empire Strikes Back 106
Return of the Jedi 104
Revenge of the Sith 102
Rogue One 101
The Last Jedi 100
A New Hope 99
The Phantom Menace 97
The Force Awakens 97
Attack of the Clones 93
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Okay you ingrates, so here's how this works:
1. Each Star Wars Film will start with 100 points!
2. Vote up one film by 2 points, another up by 1 point. Vote down one film 2 points, and another down 1 point. They must be 4 different films. Indicate in your post which ones you are choosing.
3. When you vote, update the point totals from the most recent post in your post.
4. If your vote changes the order of point totals, change the order so it's correct.
5. You may only vote once per calendar day.
6. On May 4th at 11:59PM ET, the standings are final.
7. Rules will be community-enforced. If point totals need to be corrected for some reason, indicate where the mistake was made clearly and fix it.

Okay, I will start us out
+2 The Last Jedi (for it's great representation and diversity and for being a great feminist film)
+1 The Force Awakens (the same)
-1 Return of the Jedi (for objectification of Carrie Fisher)
-2 A New Hope (sexist damsel in distress trope)

The Last Jedi 102
The Force Awakens 101
The Phantom Menace 100
Attack of the Clones 100
Revenge of the Sith 100
Rogue One 100
Empire Strikes Back 100
Return of the Jedi 99
A New Hope 98
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Very thinly veiled your agenda is.
 
The Last Jedi: A bunch of reports suggested that TLJ is better when you see it a second time. I decided to do this for myself. It is absolutely the case. +2.

A New Hope: After 41 years it stands the test of time. +1.

The Phantom Menace: Jar Jar Binks still sucks. -1.

Revenge of the Sith: It was so, so close to being the one good prequel. Then it absolutely fell apart in the worst ending in any Star Wars movie. -2.

The Empire Strikes Back 106
Return of the Jedi 104
The Last Jedi 102
Rogue One 101
Revenge of the Sith 100
A New Hope 100
The Force Awakens 97
The Phantom Menace 96
Attack of the Clones 93
 
+2 Empire Strikes Back
+1 A New Hope
-1 The Last Jedi
-2 The Phantom Menace

The Empire Strikes Back 108
Return of the Jedi 104
The Last Jedi 101
Rogue One 101
A New Hope 101​
Revenge of the Sith 100
The Force Awakens 97
The Phantom Menace 94
Attack of the Clones 93
 
+2 Force Awakens
+1 Last Jedi
-1 A New Hope
-2 Strikes Back

The Empire Strikes Back 106
Return of the Jedi 104
The Last Jedi 102
Rogue One 101
A New Hope 100
Revenge of the Sith 100
The Force Awakens 99
The Phantom Menace 94
Attack of the Clones 93
 
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