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Yes, your very limited perspective and simplistic economy provides a good analogy for making policy decisions about systemic issues.
I like how democrats can't help themselves but to talk about how taxation should be used to "fight inequality".
Yeah, I know when I'm thinking about ways to fight inequality the first thought that always crosses my mind is that we should take peoples stuff. Brillant!
Let me ask you.. Do you think your money would be useful for anything without something like the government?
Yes, your very limited perspective and simplistic economy provides a good analogy for making policy decisions about systemic issues.
WTF are you talking about? You guys just don't get the point do you?
Answer my question first. :lol:
Why? It has nothing to do with what we were talking about? Nor does it relate to anything I have said, so no.
Never said I wouldn't pay my taxes. We were talking about the government thinking that ALL the money I earn is theirs, and that they ALLOW me to keep a little for myself. However, the you mixed a bunch of local tax, state tax, and federal tax functions in your list above. You may want to do a little research as to who is responsible for what before you make such an argument again.
You have no clue what we were talking about, do you?
It actually does. Not my fault you don't see that.
Many people from the right call scandinavia a socialist hell hole.
Let me ask you.. Do you think your money would be useful for anything without something like the government?
Yes, we are currently talking about a fictional argument that you've invented for the left that has almost zero relevancy to the topic of this thread.
Paul Krugman, a nobel prize winning economist, has analyzed the tax policy for Jeb Bush and Donald Trump and noted that the impact on the U.S. debt as a percentage of GDP (which currently sits at about 98%) by another 28 and 40% respectively. Why do you disagree with that finding? Something other than a straw man or ad hominem attack preferably.
Yes, your very limited perspective and simplistic economy provides a good analogy for making policy decisions about systemic issues.
:bs Show me where I even mentioned the left
Krugman is a leftist hack.
As for Krugman, he was given an award from he same overall organization that gave Obama a similar prize for not doing a ****ing thing - so pardon me if I don't put any merit in their opinion.
Its almost an insult to the very idea of policy decisions to call taking peoples property to fight inequality a policy decision.
Krugman telling it like it is.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/26/doubling-down-on-w/?_r=0
If you have massive inequality within a group for any resource, how would you propose to fix it? Or wait, massive inequality is not something that needs to be fixed, am I right?
Here comes the liberal sleight of hand. The discussion is about taxation for the purpose of wealth transfer and along comes a liberal to hide behind roads, bridges and police. What page in the Liberal Handbook is that tactic on?Do you want the Government to fix your roads, bridges, arm police, help hospitals, fight wars, and reduce the deficit? Then you should recognize that YOUR money is necessary to accomplish those goals.
Here comes the liberal sleight of hand. The discussion is about taxation for the purpose of wealth transfer and along comes a liberal to hide behind roads, bridges and police. What page in the Liberal Handbook is that tactic on?
No, your counterpoint was worse than simplistic, it was dishonest.Chapter one, probably page 2 or 3 (it's been a while). It's the same chapter where you will find the tactic from the Conservative Handbook that notes that you should consider all sources of income to be YOURS and that the Government should not claim ownership over YOUR money.
That was the point. I responded to a simplistic point with a simplistic counter-point.
Krugman is a leftist hack.
It's always been really odd to me how the idea of tax cuts is often spoken about as if it's money being taken away from the government, as if the money was already rightfully the governments to begin with.
Gotta love how you two went completely off of the topic ignoring the OP rambling about your imaginary liberal caricature.
Nice sentiments, and what the .gov would like us to think - but wrong: They own your ass!AMEN brother. I earned that money, not the government. It is my money, not the governments. If they tax me, then it becomes theirs ONLY after I pay it to them. If they lower the tax rate, then MY money stays with ME... or at least more than before will stay with me. That money was, is, and will remain MINE, not the government's. I don't need the governments permission to earn my money, I damned sure don't need their permission to call it MINE.
Yep, that's about it in a nutshell.Indeed. The curse of the income tax is that it allows the government to confiscate the wealth of its citizens. It does this by assuming control over all income, taking what deems fit from the people while leaving them with whatever it decides they are worthy enough to keep.
:bs Show me where I even mentioned the left
Krugman is a leftist hack.
That's because liberals think that the money you owe in taxes was never yours.
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