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Donald Trump's Great Self-Contradictions

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Donald Trump likes to say that he “tells it like it is,” and his blunt style has won him the Republican nomination, buoyed by voters who like feeling they know just where a candidate stands on the issues. So where does he stand? Over the past four decades Trump has talked about every imaginable subject: gun rights to germs, the nature of competition to pre-nuptial agreements, love and sex, self-promotion and politics. And on every one of those topics, he has taken positions that directly contradict exactly what he has previously said.In a world where candidates have lost elections over a single flip-flop, Trump has turned the self-contradiction into an art form. To create the definitive archive of Trump’s long argument with himself, Politico mined an almost limitless seam of his radio and TV interviews, newspaper and magazine profiles, books written about him and books written by him, rambling campaign speeches and late-night tweets. Read them together and they reveal a person who may be amazingly good at gauging the moment, but whose principles, beyond simply winning, remain elusive—perhaps even to himself.
Has anyone ever disagreed with Donald Trump more than Donald Trump?
Donald Trump's Great Self-Contradictions

I think Donald Trump has contradicted himself on just about every major US political issue throughout time and presently.....
 

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You may be suffering from what they call "Trump Derangement Syndrome".
 

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Socialist trying to attack Trump... No kidding..
 

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Socialist trying to attack Trump... No kidding..

So what is your justification for supporting someone that flip flops on every issue?
 

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He doesn't..

Really? You're arguing, on a thread specifically devoted to explicit research detailing the numerous instances that he flip flopped, that he is consistent in his policy positions?

What about Abortion? Please tell me that he is consistent on that issue and I will give you the benefit of limiting the timescale to the last three months.
 

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Really? You're arguing, on a thread specifically devoted to explicit research detailing the numerous instances that he flip flopped, that he is consistent in his policy positions?

What about Abortion? Did he not flip flop on that issue about three times over the course of the day?

Abortion doesn't matter...

Maybe he changed his mind 3 times about the color shirt he was going to wear yesterday too..
 

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Abortion doesn't matter...

Maybe he changed his mind 3 times about the color shirt he was going to wear yesterday too..

So you admit that he did flip flop, but - like all things Trump says or does - you will support him because it doesn't matter?
 

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He doesn't..
Denial is strong with this one.

Examples:

“I’m totally pro-choice.” (Fox News, October 31, 1999)
“I’m pro-life.” (CPAC, February 10, 2011)

George W. Bush? “I like him.” (CNN, October 8, 1999)

“Don’t talk to me about Bush, I was never a defender or a fan!” (Twitter, April 12, 2013)

“I like John McCain.” (Twitter, May 28, 2013)

“I’m not a fan of John McCain.” (Facebook, July 18, 2015)


President Trump? “He would believe very strongly in extreme military strength. He wouldn’t trust anyone. He wouldn’t trust the Russians.” (Playboy, March 1990)
“I have always felt that Russia and the United States should be able to work well with each other.” (Reuters, December 18, 2015)

“I see NATO as a good thing.” (Washington Post, March 21, 2016)

“I think NATO is obsolete.” (ABC News, March 27, 2016)

In favor of invading Iraq? “Yeah, I guess so.” (The Howard Stern Show, September 11, 2002)
“It looks like a tremendous success from a military standpoint.” (Fox Business, March 21, 2003)
“The war’s a mess.” (Washington Post, March 25, 2003)

“Qadhafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around, we have soldiers, all over the Middle East, and we’re not bringing ‘em in to stop this horrible carnage. … We should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick.” (Trump video blog, February 2011)
“I never discussed that subject. I was in favor of Libya? We would be so much better off if Qadhafi were in charge right now.” (Houston, February 25, 2016)

“I think we’ve had enough debates.” (Fox News, March 16, 2016)
“More debate is always better.” (Twitter, December 7, 2011)



“Eminent domain is wonderful.” (Fox News, October 6, 2015)
“I don’t like eminent domain.” (Breitbart News, November 5, 2015)


“I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.” (Trump: The America We Deserve, 2000)
“I am the strongest person running in favor of the Second Amendment.” (Hanahan, South Carolina, February 15, 2016)


You can find many more if you simply click on the link. But hey, I get it, living in denial is easy.



 

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So you admit that he did flip flop, but - like all things Trump says or does - you will support him because it doesn't matter?

No, he just didn't take a strong position on it because it doesn't matter.
 

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Denial is strong with this one.

Examples:

“I’m totally pro-choice.” (Fox News, October 31, 1999)
“I’m pro-life.” (CPAC, February 10, 2011)

George W. Bush? “I like him.” (CNN, October 8, 1999)

“Don’t talk to me about Bush, I was never a defender or a fan!” (Twitter, April 12, 2013)

“I like John McCain.” (Twitter, May 28, 2013)

“I’m not a fan of John McCain.” (Facebook, July 18, 2015)


President Trump? “He would believe very strongly in extreme military strength. He wouldn’t trust anyone. He wouldn’t trust the Russians.” (Playboy, March 1990)
“I have always felt that Russia and the United States should be able to work well with each other.” (Reuters, December 18, 2015)

“I see NATO as a good thing.” (Washington Post, March 21, 2016)

“I think NATO is obsolete.” (ABC News, March 27, 2016)

In favor of invading Iraq? “Yeah, I guess so.” (The Howard Stern Show, September 11, 2002)
“It looks like a tremendous success from a military standpoint.” (Fox Business, March 21, 2003)
“The war’s a mess.” (Washington Post, March 25, 2003)

“Qadhafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around, we have soldiers, all over the Middle East, and we’re not bringing ‘em in to stop this horrible carnage. … We should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick.” (Trump video blog, February 2011)
“I never discussed that subject. I was in favor of Libya? We would be so much better off if Qadhafi were in charge right now.” (Houston, February 25, 2016)

“I think we’ve had enough debates.” (Fox News, March 16, 2016)
“More debate is always better.” (Twitter, December 7, 2011)



“Eminent domain is wonderful.” (Fox News, October 6, 2015)
“I don’t like eminent domain.” (Breitbart News, November 5, 2015)


“I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.” (Trump: The America We Deserve, 2000)
“I am the strongest person running in favor of the Second Amendment.” (Hanahan, South Carolina, February 15, 2016)


You can find many more if you simply click on the link. But hey, I get it, living in denial is easy.




Desperation..
 

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You may be suffering from what they call "Trump Derangement Syndrome".

Well, facts certainly are suffering from "Trump Derangement Syndrome." Either that or Trump is full of s***.
 

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Trump is quite consistent in his own way: What he says (thinks, feels) at the moment is the truth. It's like Cruz said - hook him to a lie detector, he will pass every time. The guy seems to lack the capacity for reflection or self-analysis bordering on the absence of self-awareness (Remember how he attacked Rand Paul's hair?) In a word, he is a perfect narcissistic psychopath. Unfortunately, it makes him more effective, as a populist demagogue.
 

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I love your simple one liners. No wonder you're a Trump supporter.

I assume he's a POE. Any Trump supporter sufficiently stupid to argue as he does wouldn't be able to figure out a computer.
 

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I love your simple one liners. No wonder you're a Trump supporter.



So you defend Trumps hypocrisy by some one else's hypocrisy?

Nope. Not all, just balancing scales a bit. You only want present one side, I want to see all sides. Since you don't seem to be willing to do so, I stepped up and showed that they all contradict themselves - every single one of them. They are all part of the problem and NONE of them have anything even remotely resembling a solution. You seem to want to ignore the contradictions of 2/3 of the candidates....
 
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