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Donald Trump undermined Canada on Huawei arrest, says former U.S. ambassador

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Donald Trump undermined Canada on Huawei arrest, says former U.S. ambassador

Former U.S. ambassador to China Gary Locke said Tuesday that U.S. President Donald Trump undermined Canada over the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou when he said that he would intervene in the case if it could help secure a trade deal with China.

In an interview with CBC News Network's Power & Politics, Locke said the extradition process has always been viewed as independent and separate from politics. But Trump's offer in a Reuters interview to insert himself into the case — "if I think it's good for what will be certainly the largest trade deal ever made" — may have made Canada's actions appear to the Chinese as an attempt at securing leverage.

"And so if the president is intervening, then the Chinese will say, 'OK Canada, why don't you intervene? Why don't you just simply refuse to extradite this person to the United States?" he said.

Canadian officials have maintained that the Dec. 1 arrest of Meng happened without political interference and that the process is unfolding in accordance with the rule of law and international treaties.

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Since the Canadian position is that extradition is NOT to be used for "political purposes" and that people are not to be subjected to "politically motivated" prosecutions, Mr. Trump's statements have left it open to the Canadian government to refuse to extradite and to make the reason for that refusal that "The President of the United States of America has given the strongest possible indications that the prosecution and request for extradition were solely for the political purpose of pressuring that government of an independent and sovereign state. The Canadian government will not lend its imprimatur to such a flagrant misuse of international law.".

Will the Canadian government go that far, or will the Canadian government merely tell the US government that that is what it intends to do if the US government does not withdraw the extradition request?​
 

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From the CBC

Donald Trump undermined Canada on Huawei arrest, says former U.S. ambassador

Former U.S. ambassador to China Gary Locke said Tuesday that U.S. President Donald Trump undermined Canada over the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou when he said that he would intervene in the case if it could help secure a trade deal with China.

In an interview with CBC News Network's Power & Politics, Locke said the extradition process has always been viewed as independent and separate from politics. But Trump's offer in a Reuters interview to insert himself into the case — "if I think it's good for what will be certainly the largest trade deal ever made" — may have made Canada's actions appear to the Chinese as an attempt at securing leverage.

"And so if the president is intervening, then the Chinese will say, 'OK Canada, why don't you intervene? Why don't you just simply refuse to extradite this person to the United States?" he said.

Canadian officials have maintained that the Dec. 1 arrest of Meng happened without political interference and that the process is unfolding in accordance with the rule of law and international treaties.

COMMENT:-

Since the Canadian position is that extradition is NOT to be used for "political purposes" and that people are not to be subjected to "politically motivated" prosecutions, Mr. Trump's statements have left it open to the Canadian government to refuse to extradite and to make the reason for that refusal that "The President of the United States of America has given the strongest possible indications that the prosecution and request for extradition were solely for the political purpose of pressuring that government of an independent and sovereign state. The Canadian government will not lend its imprimatur to such a flagrant misuse of international law.".

Will the Canadian government go that far, or will the Canadian government merely tell the US government that that is what it intends to do if the US government does not withdraw the extradition request?​

This wasn't kosher??? Smocking!!!!!!!
 

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From the CBC

Donald Trump undermined Canada on Huawei arrest, says former U.S. ambassador

Former U.S. ambassador to China Gary Locke said Tuesday that U.S. President Donald Trump undermined Canada over the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou when he said that he would intervene in the case if it could help secure a trade deal with China.

In an interview with CBC News Network's Power & Politics, Locke said the extradition process has always been viewed as independent and separate from politics. But Trump's offer in a Reuters interview to insert himself into the case — "if I think it's good for what will be certainly the largest trade deal ever made" — may have made Canada's actions appear to the Chinese as an attempt at securing leverage.

"And so if the president is intervening, then the Chinese will say, 'OK Canada, why don't you intervene? Why don't you just simply refuse to extradite this person to the United States?" he said.

Canadian officials have maintained that the Dec. 1 arrest of Meng happened without political interference and that the process is unfolding in accordance with the rule of law and international treaties.

COMMENT:-

Since the Canadian position is that extradition is NOT to be used for "political purposes" and that people are not to be subjected to "politically motivated" prosecutions, Mr. Trump's statements have left it open to the Canadian government to refuse to extradite and to make the reason for that refusal that "The President of the United States of America has given the strongest possible indications that the prosecution and request for extradition were solely for the political purpose of pressuring that government of an independent and sovereign state. The Canadian government will not lend its imprimatur to such a flagrant misuse of international law.".

Will the Canadian government go that far, or will the Canadian government merely tell the US government that that is what it intends to do if the US government does not withdraw the extradition request?​

Poor Canada...everyone ****s on them. What ARE they going to do?
 

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Poor Canada...everyone ****s on them. What ARE they going to do?

Keep on living with our better healthcare, better education, less violence, less racism, less hatred, and beautiful country. Yep, we'll have to keep on enjoying some of the most livable cities in the world.

Most livable cities:
Canada performed well as well, with Toronto tying with Tokyo for seventh position on a score of 97.2% and Calgary (97.5%) and Vancouver (97.3%) taking fourth and sixth place respectively.


Life is hard, having so many of the best cities in the world to choose from, but someone has to do it. Carry on. ;)
 

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Poor Canada...everyone ****s on them. What ARE they going to do?

Possibly what (what is now) Canada has been doing for almost 200 years now - beating off the attempts of (what is now) the United States of America to take it over.

PS - Here's an interesting historical trivia fact for you - "The government of the United States of America ordered the attack on Canada six weeks prior to actually declaring war on Britain in 1812 and had its armies poised to attack before there was any actual declaration of war.".
 

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Poor Canada...everyone ****s on them. What ARE they going to do?

Not everyone. Just you guys. You know...our "closest allies"?

Send this lady back, and make a backdoor deal with China to buy their steel through Korea or Malaysia with new labelling, so we can flood the American market. Now that's got a ring to it.
 

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Keep on living with our better healthcare, better education, less violence, less racism, less hatred, and beautiful country. Yep, we'll have to keep on enjoying some of the most livable cities in the world.

Most livable cities:
Canada performed well as well, with Toronto tying with Tokyo for seventh position on a score of 97.2% and Calgary (97.5%) and Vancouver (97.3%) taking fourth and sixth place respectively.


Life is hard, having so many of the best cities in the world to choose from, but someone has to do it. Carry on. ;)

I hate city living.
 

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Poor Canada...everyone ****s on them. What ARE they going to do?

No, everyone respects and admires Canada. The point is, nobody can trust America to keep it's word anymore.
 

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I hate city living.

You wouldn't like Canada at all. Nothing but cities...everywhere. It's horrible here, absolutely horrible. Don't come. Not even for vacation. Yecch!
 

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No, just a bunch of low intellect ignorant bigots among them.

I'm amazed at the size of the base, imagine almost 1/3 of the USA looks up to Trump intellectually. Talk about a failed education system. SMH.
 

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No, just a bunch of low intellect ignorant bigots among them.

I know...but the ratio doesn't appear to be lessening the impact, unfortunately. Hopefully we'll learn more about that ratio in 2020. :)
 

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I'm amazed at the size of the base, imagine almost 1/3 of the USA looks up to Trump intellectually. Talk about a failed education system.
It is sad, tragic and it pains me to say that to a large extent the too liberal education at elementary level is one of the culprits.
 

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Possibly what (what is now) Canada has been doing for almost 200 years now - beating off the attempts of (what is now) the United States of America to take it over.

PS - Here's an interesting historical trivia fact for you - "The government of the United States of America ordered the attack on Canada six weeks prior to actually declaring war on Britain in 1812 and had its armies poised to attack before there was any actual declaration of war.".

Wait...you are butt hurt over something that happened over 200 years ago? And you think the US still wants to take you over???

I think you have an irrational paranoia problem.
 

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You wouldn't like Canada at all. Nothing but cities...everywhere. It's horrible here, absolutely horrible. Don't come. Not even for vacation. Yecch!

shrug...

According to the other guy, that's your biggest selling point.
 

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No, everyone respects and admires Canada. The point is, nobody can trust America to keep it's word anymore.

Doesn't sound to me like China respects and admires Canada.
 

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shrug...

According to the other guy, that's your biggest selling point.

And his point went right over your head, not surprised. :lamo

It must be dark with your head in the.....well....let's just call it "sand" for so long. :lamo
 

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Not everyone. Just you guys. You know...our "closest allies"?

Send this lady back, and make a backdoor deal with China to buy their steel through Korea or Malaysia with new labelling, so we can flood the American market. Now that's got a ring to it.

For sure...you need to come up with a new scheme. Trump tossed your last scheme...you know, with the auto parts...in the trash.
 

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Wait...you are butt hurt over something that happened over 200 years ago? And you think the US still wants to take you over???

I think you have an irrational paranoia problem.

Our sure, publicly you deny you want our Poutine.

But privately, privately, we know you plan to take over Canada and force the good people at Timmy's to work 8, 10, 12 hours a day making you your poutine.
 

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I know...but the ratio doesn't appear to be lessening the impact, unfortunately. Hopefully we'll learn more about that ratio in 2020. :)

Oh, good! We need more pressure..........:shock:
 

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For sure...you need to come up with a new scheme. Trump tossed your last scheme...you know, with the auto parts...in the trash.

:lamo Yup...and bought them back in surcharges. Good for Trump. haha

At least you didn't deny that he's a backstabber.
 

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Oh, good! We need more pressure..........:shock:

lol...actually you do, given that the guy got elected in the first place. I don't think there could ever be "enough" pressure... ;)
 

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Our sure, publicly you deny you want our Poutine.

But privately, privately, we know you plan to take over Canada and force the good people at Timmy's to work 8, 10, 12 hours a day making you your poutine.

Mycroft would never eat poutine. Freedom Fries with American Cheese and Trump sauce, well...that's another story. :lol:
 
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