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Donald Trump Is Against 'Gun-Free Zones' but Guns Aren't Allowed on Many of His Prope

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so tell me, why is Trump as bad as Hillary. and that is the only question that matters in this 2016 election
No, it isn't. The elections of 2020 and 2024 will be more important, because that's when we are going to have to do entitlement reform. At that point either we start reversing course, or dive full bore into socialism. We've already lost the other issues for 2016, so positioning well for 2020 is the most important issue remaining.

But let's compare.

Domestic Policy: Universal Health Care, paid for by government. Higher minimum wage. Larger, more intrusive government. No entitlement reform. Higher taxes on upper income earners. Restricting the First Amendment. Restricting the Second Amendment.

There two people are not noticeably different.

On foreign policy, Hillary represents a sort of more-competent status quo. Trump represents an interesting mix of ignorance, stupidity, and bat-****. Hillary will be more reliably sane, but still wrong. Trump will be less stable, meaning that, like a blind squirrel, he may find a nut, but he will be easily manipulated by Putin, and wants people like me to hunt down and murder women and children.

Here these two are different mostly in that they are different flavors of disastrous.

Hope is not a strategy. You don't marry a drunk to "change him". The Pollyanna "Gosh maybe he will turn into a conservative once he has no incentive to!" argument is unconvincing at best.

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First, I do admire your use of language. You would have made a great political speech writer working for any number of politicians. I know because I did that for a few years myself.

Lets cut to the chase here and pare your eloquence down to simple common bar talk: are you saying if America tries to limit your gun rights and you don't like it you will use those same guns to kill government officials?

If my government "tries to limit my gun rights (or any other individual rights) and I don't like it" I will refuse to obey those infringements. If my government then acts with force to compel me, I will take up those same arms in rebellion. Let the chips fall where they may.

Does that answer your question?
 
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Donald Trump Is Against 'Gun-Free Zones' But Guns Aren't Allowed on Many of His Properties, Staff Says - ABC News
Donald Trump Is Against 'Gun-Free Zones' but Guns Aren't Allowed on Many of His Properties, Staff


Donald Trump spoke in favor of gun rights at the National Rifle Association convention today, but security and staff at several of his prized hotels and golf courses told ABC News that guests are not allowed to carry guns there.

The Trump Organization, meanwhile, claims that’s not true.

“We strongly believe in the 2nd Amendment and are against gun free zones. While laws vary substantially from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, we allow security personnel and other licensed individuals the ability to carry a firearm in an effort to protect themselves, our guests, associates and the general public,” a spokesperson told ABC News by email.

There are “no restrictions on licensed individuals carrying in our hotels of golf clubs,” a Trump Organization official told ABC News.

However, staff at several Trump properties contradict the public relations department report…….Given Donald difficulty in being able to identify what the truth is……….

Until then...

I’ll believe the doorman and the Bellboy

Not only that but Donald is flip flopping on yet another major issue from his past.

Being somewhat Teflon he is going to get away with this and more of it.

Unlike Romney who had a track record on signing legislation, Trump is still pure as the driven snow when it comes to any track record.

Like Reagan, Trump is getting away with stuff that no normal politician could.

That's how Teflon works. Nothing sticks.
 
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If my government "tries to limit my gun rights (or any other individual rights) and I don't like it" I will refuse to obey those infringements. If my government then acts with force to compel me, I will take up those same arms in rebellion. Let the chips fall where they may.

Does that answer your question?

yes - perfectly. Thank you for your honesty.
 
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The same guy who had his line of clothing made in Mexico because he loves America.

If you ask, I will be happy to explain why your implication of irony is baseless.
 
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Not only that but Donald is flip flopping on yet another major issue from his past.

Being somewhat Teflon he is going to get away with this and more of it.

Unlike Romney who had a track record on signing legislation, Trump is still pure as the driven snow when it comes to any track record.

Like Reagan, Trump is getting away with stuff that no normal politician could.

That's how Teflon works. Nothing sticks.

The American communists - aka Democrats - working hand-in-hand with the RINO's brought us to the point where Trump is the only choice, or Bush will become known as the last Republican president.

Why do you think Obongo is bringing all kinds of foreigners by the boatload?

It's because immigrants vote 70% for the Democrat party. If Trump is not elected, the U.S. will become a one-party hellhole like Detroit and Chicago - crime ridden and financially broke. But proudly multicultural.

Bottom line: I really don't care what dirt his enemies will throw at Trump and how many flips and flops he will be accused of as long as he builds that f****** wall and stops the uncertified Muslims from coming here.
 
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The American communists - aka Democrats - working hand-in-hand with the RINO's brought us to the point where Trump is the only choice, or Bush will become known as the last Republican president.

Why do you think Obongo is bringing all kinds of foreigners by the boatload?

It's because immigrants vote 70% for the Democrat party. If Trump is not elected, the U.S. will become a one-party hellhole like Detroit and Chicago - crime ridden and financially broke. But proudly multicultural.

Bottom line: I really don't care what dirt his enemies will throw at Trump and how many flips and flops he will be accused of as long as he builds that f****** wall and stops the uncertified Muslims from coming here.

We need workers with H1B visa's who can do all the technical work that American kids cannot do because the American kids only know how to drink booze, smoke pot, and boink each other.

The corruption of the American youth has reached critical levels on a par with the fall of the Roman Empire again.

There is no way around foreign workers in the USA any longer.
 
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Not only that but Donald is flip flopping on yet another major issue from his past.

Being somewhat Teflon he is going to get away with this and more of it.

Unlike Romney who had a track record on signing legislation, Trump is still pure as the driven snow when it comes to any track record.

Like Reagan, Trump is getting away with stuff that no normal politician could.

That's how Teflon works. Nothing sticks.

It would seem that the Trump supporters don't care if he lies......doesn't care that he pays no taxes............has no idea of what foreign relations is........... flip-flops on all major issues sometimes daily.............dumb as a stone when it comes to the Constitution and separation of powers..........or how he treats women or is openly a racist..........


They just do not care
 
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We need workers with H1B visa's who can do all the technical work that American kids cannot do because the American kids only know how to drink booze, smoke pot, and boink each other.

The corruption of the American youth has reached critical levels on a par with the fall of the Roman Empire again.

There is no way around foreign workers in the USA any longer.

You obviously never heard of experienced American workers told to train their H1B replacements because H1B's are cheaper.
 
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It would seem that the Trump supporters don't care if he lies......doesn't care that he pays no taxes............has no idea of what foreign relations is........... flip-flops on all major issues sometimes daily.............dumb as a stone when it comes to the Constitution and separation of powers..........or how he treats women or is openly a racist..........


They just do not care

Runs businesses all over the world............... (your foreign relations argument)

Generates a tremendous amount of tax revenue through payroll and purchases.............. (your no tax argument)

Separation of powers is, and has been abused by the current and past administrations.

Racist? LOL

Lies? Whats new in that regard. Please show me one politician that doesn't lie. (blatantly, or omission of information)
 
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Donald Trump Is Against 'Gun-Free Zones' But Guns Aren't Allowed on Many of His Properties, Staff Says - ABC News
Donald Trump Is Against 'Gun-Free Zones' but Guns Aren't Allowed on Many of His Properties, Staff


Donald Trump spoke in favor of gun rights at the National Rifle Association convention today, but security and staff at several of his prized hotels and golf courses told ABC News that guests are not allowed to carry guns there.

The Trump Organization, meanwhile, claims that’s not true.

“We strongly believe in the 2nd Amendment and are against gun free zones. While laws vary substantially from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, we allow security personnel and other licensed individuals the ability to carry a firearm in an effort to protect themselves, our guests, associates and the general public,” a spokesperson told ABC News by email.

There are “no restrictions on licensed individuals carrying in our hotels of golf clubs,” a Trump Organization official told ABC News.

However, staff at several Trump properties contradict the public relations department report…….Given Donald difficulty in being able to identify what the truth is……….

Until then...

I’ll believe the doorman and the Bellboy

And Kilary Rotten Clinton is AGAINST guns and the 2nd Amendment BUT the witch's security ALL carry guns , so who's the hypocrite ? :lamo
 
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The American communists - aka Democrats - working hand-in-hand with the RINO's brought us to the point where Trump is the only choice, or Bush will become known as the last Republican president.

Why do you think Obongo is bringing all kinds of foreigners by the boatload?

It's because immigrants vote 70% for the Democrat party. If Trump is not elected, the U.S. will become a one-party hellhole like Detroit and Chicago - crime ridden and financially broke. But proudly multicultural.

Bottom line: I really don't care what dirt his enemies will throw at Trump and how many flips and flops he will be accused of as long as he builds that f****** wall and stops the uncertified Muslims from coming here.

I don't know many H1B's who have bothered to become citizens. So they don't vote.
 
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It would seem that the Trump supporters don't care if he lies......doesn't care that he pays no taxes............has no idea of what foreign relations is........... flip-flops on all major issues sometimes daily.............dumb as a stone when it comes to the Constitution and separation of powers..........or how he treats women or is openly a racist..........


They just do not care

Correct. They do not care.

They did not care that the same was true of Reagan as well.

They just like rich guys and they worship money.
 
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I don't think it will necessarily be better (it could be). I just don't think it will be all that different.

When it comes to needing help... :shrug: I'm not the one scrambling to justify voting for someone who doesn't share my beliefs.

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I've found that many conservatives stating they won't vote for Trump don't believe in much of anything.
 
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And Kilary Rotten Clinton is AGAINST guns and the 2nd Amendment BUT the witch's security ALL carry guns , so who's the hypocrite ? :lamo

Can you explain why you make remarks about HRC...........when the subject is Donald Trump?
 
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Runs businesses all over the world............... (your foreign relations argument)

Generates a tremendous amount of tax revenue through payroll and purchases.............. (your no tax argument)

Separation of powers is, and has been abused by the current and past administrations.

Racist? LOL

Lies? Whats new in that regard. Please show me one politician that doesn't lie. (blatantly, or omission of information)



He does not run any business all over the world….(other than the luxury condos in Mexico which when belly-up and now being sued for fraud in a California court……….But in any event, does not constitute “foreign affairs” experience ………..
He pays no income tax
He makes campaign promises beyond the constitutional powers of the Presidency…….

He is a liar of renown……….. There is no one in US politics today who qualifies as an equal to Trump……..and if I can remind you……”Two wrongs do not make a right”

OH yes….and a racist too
 
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And Kilary Rotten Clinton is AGAINST guns and the 2nd Amendment BUT the witch's security ALL carry guns , so who's the hypocrite ? :lamo

:roll:......
 
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they're both saying whatever they think will get them elected. it's similar to what happens during every election, but the volume and gain have been significantly increased in this one, leading to distortion and feedback.

Trump's hypocrisy is just becoming more bombastic and laced with increasing lies.
 
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I've found that many conservatives stating they won't vote for Trump don't believe in much of anything.

Never thought of that..........You may be on to something here
 
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I've found that many conservatives stating they won't vote for Trump don't believe in much of anything.
[emoji38] I think you're projecting, there, bud. The people who don't believe in much of anything are already on the Trump Train. ;). The only reason at this point for conservatives who continue to oppose him is because they believe in something.

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Can you explain why you make remarks about HRC...........when the subject is Donald Trump?

To expose the hypocrites . :roll:
 
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:roll:......

Even the blind can see now ! :lamo:lamo
 
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To expose the hypocrites . :roll:

Start your own string rather than attempting to changing the subject..........

BTW

Who is the hypocrite here ? Fork-tongued Donald of course
 
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Start your own string rather than attempting to changing the subject..........

BTW

Who is the hypocrite here ? Fork-tongued Donald of course

Right and your gal is pure as the driven snow , wake up . :lamo
 
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