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Donald Trump Grilled About NWS Cuts After Deadly Texas Floods

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Donald Trump grilled about NWS cuts after deadly Texas floods

Flash floods in Texas' Hill Country have killed dozens of people during the Fourth of July holiday weekend.
www.newsweek.com


Donald Trump/Elon Musk/DOGE gutted the National Weather Service earlier this year. They also gutted FEMA ahead of the 2025 hurricane season.

Weather Service staffing "clearly a concern" ahead of deadly Texas floods

The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) cut hundreds of jobs as the National Weather Service earlier this year.
www.newsweek.com
 
NOAA cuts should be part of the conversation as well.
 
lynnwinslow said:
These extreme events are becoming more frequent. Do you think we should talk about the condition of the agencies that are set up to help us or should we just keep the status quo?
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The same warnings that would have gone out before still went out.
As for the frequency of extreme weather events, areas exposed to tropical weather get extreme events, it is nothing new.
 
longview said:
The same warnings that would have gone out before still went out.
As for the frequency of extreme weather events, areas exposed to tropical weather get extreme events, it is nothing new.
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Before I spend too much time replying, I just want to establish some common ground.
Are you saying that you think extreme weather events are not becoming more frequent?
 
lynnwinslow said:
Before I spend too much time replying, I just want to establish some common ground.
Are you saying that you think extreme weather events are not becoming more frequent?
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I do not think they are, we have better reporting, and more people and structures in harms way.
Take the Hurricane Harvey flooding in Houston in 2017 (I was here), it was really bad, but
we had a similar amount of rainfall in the area in 1979. If anything the flooding is less frequent because of the
flood control measures in place. Between 1836 and 1936, Houston recorded 16 major floods.
Harris County’s Flooding History
Harris County suffered through 16 major floods from 1836 to 1936, some of which crested at more than 40 feet, turning downtown Houston streets into raging rivers.
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longview said:
I do not think they are,
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Okay, have a good one.
 
Donald Trump, the man who can do no wrong. Texas got what it voted for. Is there a problem?
 
lynnwinslow said:
Okay, have a good one.
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For the sake of discussion (This is a debate forum) let's say extreme weather events are becoming more common.
What do you think we should do about them, and why do you think those actions will change the trajectory of the climate?
 
longview said:
For the sake of discussion (This is a debate forum) let's say extreme weather events are becoming more common.
What do you think we should do about them, and why do you think those actions will change the trajectory of the climate?
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I don't know you and having nothing against you but I refuse to follow someone with a clear bias down a "what should we do? what about? why?" rabbit hole. I learned my lesson in the gun threads.
 
lynnwinslow said:
I don't know you and having nothing against you but I refuse to follow someone with a clear bias down a "what should we do? what about? why?" rabbit hole. I learned my lesson in the gun threads.
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The implication is that we can actually change the climate to something better, when there is no
scientific basis to that belief.
As for the actual trends, things are changing, but the climate always changes.
How are extreme weather events and the climate evolving in the United States?
 
Has he spent 100 million dollars of taxpayer money golfing yet?
 
lynnwinslow said:
I don't know you and having nothing against you but I refuse to follow someone with a clear bias down a "what should we do? what about? why?" rabbit hole. I learned my lesson in the gun threads.
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It’s a good strategy. No good will come from engagement with him. Many of us have learned this first hand.
 
By the way, Dear Leader "activated" FEMA in Texas and is talking about federal aid. Funny how just a few weeks ago, the big plan was to eliminate FEMA and all federal involvement, and leave disaster prevention, aid and recovery to the states...
 
lynnwinslow said:
These extreme events are becoming more frequent. Do you think we should talk about the condition of the agencies that are set up to help us or should we just keep the status quo?
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His comment that it happens "once every 100 years "is troubling.
 
reflechissez said:
He fancies himself a climate change expert. Best to avoid.
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Yes, the only thing you climate change alarmists fear more than climate change is having your opinions challenged.
 
Based on the information thus far, the questions are less about funding cuts to the NWS and more about the warning systems for this kind of event. The NWS issues warnings the day before and very specific ones about the threat level as it increased.
 
j brown's body said:
His comment that it happens "once every 100 years "is troubling.
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When I saw the out of left field post about a specific county in TX, which was not the one where the current tragedy occurred, the red flag shot up.
 
Visbek said:
By the way, Dear Leader "activated" FEMA in Texas and is talking about federal aid. Funny how just a few weeks ago, the big plan was to eliminate FEMA and all federal involvement, and leave disaster prevention, aid and recovery to the states...
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That should be the goal but it doesnt mean you can just throw a switch and make it happen
 
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