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Reckless spending like starting two wars?
Like taking over 17% of the US economy.
Reckless spending like starting two wars?
Yes, it does. Since the poor and middle-class are much more likely to spend their money than the wealthy are, cutting their taxes will do more to stimulate the economy...which will result in more capital gains for the wealthy.
common sense
Like taking over 17% of the US economy.
Doesn't a middle class tax cut (AGI up to $250K) also benefit the the Rich?
scrape away the thin facade of supposed "what is best for America" from a liberal and what will you find-a boil of envy and spite
Scrape away the thin facade of supposed "what is best for America" from an arrogant Gordon Gekko wannabe and what will you find - a boil of Marie Antoinette elitism. :roll:
All you've done in this thread is claim that the country would be worse off if the middle class paid lower taxes because they might vote for policies that don't benefit you personally. What you really mean is that you think YOU would be worse off...and you don't even have any evidence for THAT claim.
Like taking over 17% of the US economy.
The middle class has shown us that they spend their money recklessly. Why not give them more to spend recklessly. It beats the s*** out of giving it to the rich who are more likely to save of the money or just dodge the tax all together.
the parasite class and those who pander to them always want to claim that those who oppose them do so for individualistic selfish reasons while the parasites think only of the common good.
you think tax cuts involves GIVING to the rich
now I understand the source of your confusion
I'm sure that there are some who just want free goodies, but there are plenty of others who legitimately believe that "the common good" is something other than what YOU believe it is. The fact that you are unwilling to acknowledge this possibility just exposes you as a demagogue who lacks the intelligence to truly understand any other political ideas.
As for opposing them for individualistic, selfish reasons...that doesn't apply to all conservatives either. I know that some legitimately believe that the common good is something other than what I think it is. With that said, the "individualistic, selfish reasons" certainly applies to YOU, as evidenced by your incessant bragging about your wealth and referring to everyone else as "the parasite class."
That silly talking point might actually make some degree of sense, if you actually towed the standard conservative/libertarian line and favored tax cuts for everyone. But when you only want the rich to pay less and you want to finance it by making the middle-class pay more, it absolutely DOES involve giving to the rich no matter how you slice it.
I fully believe you know what is best for you.
TurtleDude said:That is consistent with my political philosophy and it makes sense that you are in the best position to know your own needs and wants. I know what is best for me.
TurtleDude said:ANd I tire of libs pretending that they want tax hikes for the greater good and then claim that we who oppose them only worry about ourselves
TurtleDude said:and envy and spite permeate your posts given the fact that you and a few others constantly want to attack me personally
No you don't. If you did, you would evaluate political policies (e.g. tax cuts for the middle class) on their merits, rather than on how they would play out politically. Your desire to punish the middle-class with higher taxes, simply because they favor policies that you don't agree with, is petty and childish. This is exactly how politics should NOT work.
A nice boilerplate talking point, but in your case it is certainly not true.
I would never claim that all conservatives are only concerned about themselves. Just you.
That isn't because of your political views or your socioeconomic status. It's because you're annoying. And who is attacking whom again? You called me "dishonest and silly" in Post #14 after I simply requested that you support your speculation with some evidence, without even disputing your claim.
Doesn't a middle class tax cut (AGI up to $250K) also benefit the the Rich?
Options:
Yes
No
I don't know.
SO how can you prove that I don't believe that you know what is best for you?
TurtleDude said:since you are so into proof
TurtleDude said:now go back to whining about the rich and boohooing about the poor
I'm too lazy to even try to untangle that grammatical mess of a question.
Actually I was asking if you had any evidence to support your speculation that the middle-class are less likely to support big government when their tax burden is proportionally higher, as I have never seen any such indication. Clearly you have no such evidence.
I've never whined about the rich, as I'm hardly strapped for cash myself. And yeah, it's ridiculous to claim that you aren't motivated by pure selfishness just before you use the phrase "boohooing about the poor" and just after you call everyone who isn't rich "the parasite class." At least you could embrace your inner Gekko, instead of trying to pretend that he isn't there and that you're just concerned with what's best for the country.
I will try to make this as simple as possible for you
I) scenario one-the vast majority of people don't suffer tax hikes even when government spending increases
2) scenario two-the vast majority of people suffer tax hikes when the government spending increases
what scenario is more likely to produce a strong demand that government spending be curtailed?
so you think its a good policy to spend more and more and more
TurtleDude said:and only think the rich should pay more tax?