well, I am wondering. There is something fishy about the whole thing.
One thing is for sure, IR has nothing to do with that.
I don't know what it is over there, but it is nice and warm here.
well, I am wondering. There is something fishy about the whole thing.
One thing is for sure, IR has nothing to do with that.
Proven in 1870.
well, I am wondering. There is something fishy about the whole thing.
One thing is for sure, IR has nothing to do with that.
Is this earth warmer than space? If so, explain how that is possible without the greenhouse effect.
Well, I am saying that IR has nothing to do with it,
What's IR?
Is this earth warmer than space? If so, explain how that is possible without the greenhouse effect.
What's IR?
Or, why is Venus hotter than Mercury?
sorry, infrared.
sorry, infrared.
But why would you think infrared has nothing to do with it?
Because it has nothing to do with it.
I suspect some quantum assumptions are made that do not accurately reflect reality.
The basic premise is that the 15 um window of CO2 adsorbs and re emits 15 um photons,
some of which are directed back towards the ground.
The first assumption is that most of the the CO2 molecules live in ground state,
and are eagerly awaiting the 15 um photons.
The reality is that CO2 energy states are very long lived (10's of milliseconds), so most
of the CO2 would be busy when the photon arrives.
The second assumption is that the re-emitted photon is itself a 15 um photon,
the reality is that the spin state can spontaneously decay at any time, and most of those
will not result in a 15 um re emission, but some collection of lesser RF far IR steps, which
are not sensitivity to CO2.
I think it is these flawed assumptions and others, which led to the observed diurnal asymmetry
in temperatures, causing the average temperature to increase, by raising the nighttime lows.
So, what's the issue?
I am not saying there is no infrared. I am saying it has nothing to do with the greenhouse effect.
Well, yes it does because longwave infrared is the radiation absorbed by CO2, water vapor, methane, CFCs, etc.
An actual greenhouse works in a similar fashion because the glass blocks longwave infrared. (and keeps out the wind to block convection/advection)
Why do you think infrared has nothing to do with it?
it is just 'normal' heat, not ir.
"Heat" isn't something that moves around in of itself. It transfers via several mechanisms. (conduction, convection, radiation)
The radiation in question is infrared.