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Where the hell did you get the idea that intelligence is merely organized information?
Are you telling me that my local library is intelligent?
I WANT YOU TO SHOW ME WHERE THE HELL I SAID THAT MARRIAGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FAMILY!
Either do it or admit that you were lying!
I hear you saying that... what I don't hear is any logic behind denying homosexuals from being able to do the same exact thing.
So nature is suddenly a sentient conscious being with an opinion on what constitutes a family and what does not?
I hear you saying that... what I don't hear is any logic behind denying homosexuals from being able to do the same exact thing.
Dear lord.. Do you all graduate philosophy 101 recently? Are we really going to deconstruct every commonly understood meaning in a sentence?
Tim-
Oh don't get your panties in a twist sonny!
Is it your position or not? If not, then I retract the statement Is it your postion that marriage and the states interest in marriage has nothing to do with children? Yes OR No?? Now go away with your immature aggression.
Tim-
Regarding humans, nature promotes polygamy.
The polls submitted in the "Polls" section of this forum are useless because guests are allowed to vote and thus some members troll them by voting mulitiple times.
Why would i waste time refuting something that is MEANINGLESS to the dabate at hand and doesnt change it at all? LMAO
Regarding humans, nature promotes polygamy.
Why don't you prove your case instead of simply saying that it is so. I certainly would attempt to do that prior to making up all this **** that fly in the face of what the terms actually mean. Why don't you prove that a married Sara (who survived the crash) and Tim (who died in the crash), who have two kids, are family after they Tim died in a plane crash. No DNA. No blood lines. Nothing. Are you going to say that neither Tim nor Sara are family now or justify it in some way?
Please provide some examples of polygamous primates.
So survival of the fittest genes is meaningless? Tell Darwin..
I wonder what, if not SOTF, and natural selection, is at play that is the root of our sexual inclinations at all? What is contained within our genes that gives us the desire to procreate at all? Could Darwin be wrong?
Tim-
Muslims.
/argument
thats because there is none. Also notice how he keeps squeezing adjectives in there to try support his false opinion.
Not to mention there have been MANY studies that prove that any TWO parents are just as good or bad as any other TWO parents.
Well, all things being equal, that's a debateable opinion, and we've done it many times. But something needs a distinction in your statement. You said "two" parents. If one has no biological connection to a child are they a parent in the truest sense. They may be parent figures, even identifies as such by the child, but they are not a parent.
Tim-
Well, all things being equal, that's a debateable opinion, and we've done it many times. But something needs a distinction in your statement. You said "two" parents. If one has no biological connection to a child are they a parent in the truest sense. They may be parent figures, even identifies as such by the child, but they are not a parent.
Tim-
why did you quote me?
What you said has nothing to do with my post, my stance nor the topic of the OP, its totally senseless.
Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you posted in the wrong thread
Why would i waste time refuting something that is MEANINGLESS to the dabate at hand and doesnt change it at all? LMAO
Actually the evidence shows that a lesbian couple are better parents than your typical hetero couple.
Well, all things being equal, that's a debateable opinion, and we've done it many times. But something needs a distinction in your statement. You said "two" parents. If one has no biological connection to a child are they a parent in the truest sense. They may be parent figures, even identifies as such by the child, but they are not a parent.
Tim-
No, no it doesn't suggest that. What the "evidence" does suggest is that rich lesbian parents are as good as the average heterosexual parent. Now, the "average" heterosexual parents is made up from samples from all walks of life.. Not very fair is it? Statistics are wonderful things..
Tim-
Once again doing your uninformed lying thing.
They controlled for income.
The difference is not in income, its in the fact that lesbians generally choose when they have children and heterosexuals do not.
Of course, feel free to prove me wrong. Show me a study that indicates that rich lesbians couples are as good at raising children as an average heterosexual couples. I would love to see you back up you stupid ass statements just once.
Because you said
In other words you're avoiding my central theme. You're all claiming that there are tons of different families, and although that may be true, as far as nature is concerned there is only one type of family that matters in evolutionary terms, and there is very strong evidence that, if the mechanism for evolution holds true, there should be laid a clear distinction as to the viability of such an familial order of things.
Nut shell.. All things being equal, heterosexual families are best suited to perfom this function.. Evolutionariliy speaking of course..
Tim-
Hundreds of thousands of adoptive parents would say otherwise. Any male past puberty can inseminate a female. That does not make him a parent. Any female past puberty can bear a child. That does not make her a parent.
Parents are the ones who raise the child, who make certain it is properly fed, clothed, educated, taught core values, and over a period of decades, mould that infant into a secure adult, capable of being a productive member of society. Parents are the ones who love that child with all their hearts, who cherish that child, who would die to protect that child.
That is what a parent does. When you state that only the biological sperm/egg donors can be parents is an insult to all real parents everywhere.
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