USViking
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Is it not?
The fairest form of road-use tax allows the least amount of micromanagement by political figures, or rather micromismanagement.
Unless the road-use tax is collected entirely by robots and no humans are allowed any form of control over it, beyond the initial programming telling the robots to "collect X amount of tax per vehicle (perhaps with a "type" thrown in)......yes.No, the question of what is fair is independent of the issue of political mismanagement.
Political mismanagement is a practical matter which might theoretically subtract enough value from what would otherwise be the fairest solution to a problem to make a less fair solution more desirable. Theoretically. Is there any reason to assume that road-use tax would lead to more political mismanagement than sales tax or some other form of generating revenue?
This is not political mismanagement. You do not specify exactly what it is, in fact. I guess you are referring to ineffective work habits of government employees. Tax collection is an area where government employees seem to be performing reasonably effectively, and no, I do not consider the recent brouhaha over some teabaggers getting singled out for extra attention to be a case of inefficiency.Unless the road-use tax is collected entirely by robots and no humans are allowed any form of control over it, beyond the initial programming telling the robots to "collect X amount of tax per vehicle (perhaps with a "type" thrown in)......yes.
Or rather, no....The same amount of risk.
I am all for maximum simplification, and I do not not sold on automobile usage tax.Which is why I dislike multiple types of taxes - they just allow more room for mismanagement. A few larger taxes rather than hundreds of smaller ones would be better.
I was actually thinking more along the lines of various and sundry exemptions and the like, added after the fact.This is not political mismanagement. You do not specify exactly what it is, in fact. I guess you are referring to ineffective work habits of government employees. Tax collection is an area where government employees seem to be performing reasonably effectively, and no, I do not consider the recent brouhaha over some teabaggers getting singled out for extra attention to be a case of inefficiency.
I think that they do. I just got done going on a trip in Ohio to Kentucky and was held up with numerous road projects.
And I found this interesting article: Overweight trucks damage infrastructure. (USA Today)
There are parts of I70 where you will be ordered to chain up or lrave the freeway, during a storm warning without any actual snow on the ground.
I now carry snow cables for just such occasions.
A black box in your car? Some see a source of tax revenue
The devices would track every mile you drive —possibly including your location — and the government would use the data to draw up a tax bill.
WASHINGTON — As America's road planners struggle to find the cash to mend a crumbling highway system, many are beginning to see a solution in a little black box that fits neatly by the dashboard of your car.
The devices, which track every mile a motorist drives and transmit that information to bureaucrats, are at the center of a controversial attempt in Washington and state planning offices to overhaul the outdated system for funding America's major roads.
A black box in your car? Some see a source of tax revenue - latimes.com
I couldn't find any info concerning this so I'll take you word for it.The interstate system is NOT designed for 40tons. Its designed for transporting tanks which routinely weigh out in combat load over 70tons. That doesn't include the transport.
Will they start charging based on vehicle weight too? Heavier vehicles do more damage to the road per mile than lighter ones. Research has indicated that a fully loaded tractor trailer does as much damage to a road as nearly 10,000 passenger cars. Will the rate for semis be 10,000 times what it is for other vehicles in order to be fair?
I couldn't find any info concerning this so I'll take you word for it.
Frankly, car drivers would pay that anyways, at least in part - no way in hell will the trucking companies eat that cost, they'll add it to the shipping fees they charge, which will in turn cause stores to raise prices.Will they start charging based on vehicle weight too? Heavier vehicles do more damage to the road per mile than lighter ones. Research has indicated that a fully loaded tractor trailer does as much damage to a road as nearly 10,000 passenger cars. Will the rate for semis be 10,000 times what it is for other vehicles in order to be fair?
"If we do this, hundreds of millions of drivers will be concerned about their privacy and a host of other things."
Frankly, car drivers would pay that anyways, at least in part - no way in hell will the trucking companies eat that cost, they'll add it to the shipping fees they charge, which will in turn cause stores to raise prices.
And that person driving to the mall to buy stuff will end up paying for both the truck (fraction of it, anyway) and their car.
I'm not so sure.At first, yeah, that would probably happen. Over time things would start being shipped more by rail again, since it would be considerably cheaper. Then we'd have less semi trucks on the road, which would be fantastic.
those whom drive more already pay more in taxes.... they use more fuel, and pay those taxes... they use more tires, and pay those taxes.
no reason on earth to put a lil black box in anyone's car.
if the transportation fund is bankrupt, then the fed is seriously mismanaging that money.
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