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[Billo_Really]

Universal National Service Act of 2006 (Introduced in House)
HR 4752 IH 109th CONGRESS 2d Session

H. R. 4752
To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 14, 2006
Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

A BILL
To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

(a) Short Title- This Act may be cited as the `Universal National Service Act of 2006'.

(b) Table of Contents- The table of contents for this Act is as follows:

Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.
Sec. 2. National service obligation.
Sec. 3. Two-year period of national service.
Sec. 4. Implementation by the President.
Sec. 5. Induction.
Sec. 6. Deferments and postponements.
Sec. 7. Induction exemptions.
Sec. 8. Conscientious objection.
Sec. 9. Discharge following national service.
Sec. 10. Registration of females under the Military Selective Service Act.
Sec. 11. Relation of Act to registration and induction authority of military selective service Act.
Sec. 12. Definitions.

SEC. 2. NATIONAL SERVICE OBLIGATION.

(a) Obligation for Service- It is the obligation of every citizen of the United States, and every other person residing in the United States, who is between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of national service as prescribed in this Act unless exempted under the provisions of this Act.

(b) Form of National Service- National service under this Act shall be performed either--

(1) as a member of an active or reserve component of the uniformed services; or

(2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by the President, promotes the national defense, including national or community service and homeland security.

(c) Induction Requirements- The President shall provide for the induction of persons covered by subsection (a) to perform national service under this Act.

(d) Selection for Military Service- Based upon the needs of the uniformed services, the President shall--

(1) determine the number of persons covered by subsection (a) whose service is to be performed as a member of an active or reserve component of the uniformed services; and

(2) select the individuals among those persons who are to be inducted for military service under this Act.

(e) Civilian Service- Persons covered by subsection (a) who are not selected for military service under subsection (d) shall perform their national service obligation under this Act in a civilian capacity pursuant to subsection (b)(2).

SEC. 3. TWO-YEAR PERIOD OF NATIONAL SERVICE.

(a) General Rule- Except as otherwise provided in this section, the period of national service performed by a person under this Act shall be two years.

(b) Grounds for Extension- At the discretion of the President, the period of military service for a member of the uniformed services under this Act may be extended--

(1) with the consent of the member, for the purpose of furnishing hospitalization, medical, or surgical care for injury or illness incurred in line of duty; or

(2) for the purpose of requiring the member to compensate for any time lost to training for any cause.

(c) Early Termination- The period of national service for a person under this Act shall be terminated before the end of such period under the following circumstances:

(1) The voluntary enlistment and active service of the person in an active or reserve component of the uniformed services for a period of at least two years, in which case the period of basic military training and education actually served by the person shall be counted toward the term of enlistment.

(2) The admission and service of the person as a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military Academy, the United States Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Academy, the Coast Guard Academy, or the United States Merchant Marine Academy.

(3) The enrollment and service of the person in an officer candidate program, if the person has signed an agreement to accept a Reserve commission in the appropriate service with an obligation to serve on active duty if such a commission is offered upon completion of the program.

(4) Such other grounds as the President may establish.

SEC. 4. IMPLEMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT.

(a) In General- The President shall prescribe such regulations as are necessary to carry out this Act.

(b) Matter to Be Covered by Regulations- Such regulations shall include specification of the following:

(1) The types of civilian service that may be performed for a person's national service obligation under this Act.

(2) Standards for satisfactory performance of civilian service and of penalties for failure to perform civilian service satisfactorily.

(3) The manner in which persons shall be selected for induction under this Act, including the manner in which those selected will be notified of such selection.

(4) All other administrative matters in connection with the induction of persons under this Act and the registration, examination, and classification of such persons.

(5) A means to determine questions or claims with respect to inclusion for, or exemption or deferment from induction under this Act, including questions of conscientious objection.

(6) Standards for compensation and benefits for persons performing their national service obligation under this Act through civilian service.

(7) Such other matters as the President determines necessary to carry out this Act.

(c) Use of Prior Act- To the extent determined appropriate by the President, the President may use for purposes of this Act the procedures provided in the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.), including procedures for registration, selection, and induction.

SEC. 5. INDUCTION.

(a) In General- Every person subject to induction for national service under this Act, except those whose training is deferred or postponed in accordance with this Act, shall be called and inducted by the President for such service at the time and place specified by the President.

(b) Age Limits- A person may be inducted under this Act only if the person has attained the age of 18 and has not attained the age of 42.

(c) Voluntary Induction- A person subject to induction under this Act may volunteer for induction at a time other than the time at which the person is otherwise called for induction.

(d) Examination; Classification- Every person subject to induction under this Act shall, before induction, be physically and mentally examined and shall be classified as to fitness to perform national service. The President may apply different classification standards for fitness for military service and fitness for civilian service.

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For those that are so pro-war, you might just get your opportunity to fight it.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Definately got cold in here...

 

[cherokee]

I dont really feel its that bad of an idea.

But I dont see it becoming a law.

Status:
Introduced (By Rep. Charles Rangel [D-NY])
This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced House bills go first to House committees that consider whether the bill should be presented to the House as a whole. The majority of bills never make it out of committee.

Introduced: Feb 14, 2006
Last Action: Feb 23, 2006: Referred to the Subcommittee on Military Personnel



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-4752

 

[Iriemon]

For those that are so pro-war, you might just get your opportunity to fight it.

I wish those that are so pro-war would join up and support their cause, so the rest of us who think this war is a egregious mistake do not have to move to Canada.

 

[jennyb]

still warm were i am:shock:

 

[zymurgy]

Wasn't this bill voted down by the same person that introduced it?

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

It's been introduced by Charlie Rangel --- that should tell you something right there...

no draft here - not cold - feeling the effects of global warming --- :2razz:

by the way - I already served my country, voluntarily, during the Reagan & Bush41 administrations ('86 - '89).

 

[Captain America]

It's been introduced by Charlie Rangel --- that should tell you something right there...

no draft here - not cold - feeling the effects of global warming --- :2razz:

by the way - I already served my country, voluntarily, during the Reagan & Bush41 administrations ('86 - '89).

It's cooler near the lake....:mrgreen:

Come see us July 7th at Summerfest Fonz. Briggs stage. Noon. Free admission noon to 3PM

Captain America
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[MrFungus420]

Wasn't this bill voted down by the same person that introduced it?

This is at least the second time that Rangel has introduced Draft legislation. The last time he was one of the ones that voted against it. If I remember correctly, there were only 2 votes for it.

Personally, I think that if someone won't vote for legislation that they introduce, they should be fined, and made to pay all of the costs involved with putting legislation through to a vote. That would include paying the wages of everybody that is involved in any way, shape or form such as all the members of Congress, aides, secretaries, security personnel, commisary personnel, custodial staff, etc.

 

[zymurgy]

This is at least the second time that Rangel has introduced Draft legislation. The last time he was one of the ones that voted against it. If I remember correctly, there were only 2 votes for it.

Personally, I think that if someone won't vote for legislation that they introduce, they should be fined, and made to pay all of the costs involved with putting legislation through to a vote. That would include paying the wages of everybody that is involved in any way, shape or form such as all the members of Congress, aides, secretaries, security personnel, commisary personnel, custodial staff, etc.

I would sign off on that.

For what purpose does it serve to introduce legislation you oppose? It is clearly a political move for electibility.

 

[Calm2Chaos]

I wish those that are so pro-war would join up and support their cause, so the rest of us who think this war is a egregious mistake do not have to move to Canada.

If all of you anti-americans don't like it, then move to canada.... If so though.. please stay there.

I don't think I have heard a single pro-war person on this forum....

But just in case your right start heading north and don't look back till you run into a moose or a mounty.. :lol:

 

[Goobieman]

If all of you anti-americans don't like it, then move to canada.... If so though.. please stay there.

I don't think I have heard a single pro-war person on this forum....

But just in case your right start heading north and don't look back till you run into a moose or a mounty.. :lol:

If the people that support the US involvement in Iraq should jon the military to go fight for what they believe in...
...then shouldn't the people that oppose US involvement join the insurgency?

 

[Stinger]

I wish those that are so pro-war would join up and support their cause, so the rest of us who think this war is a egregious mistake do not have to move to Canada.

I think most who do join do support the mission so that the rest of you who think otherwise can be safe when you go to sleep at night, but then leaving might not be such a bad idea on your part.

 

[Iriemon]

If the people that support the US involvement in Iraq should jon the military to go fight for what they believe in...
...then shouldn't the people that oppose US involvement join the insurgency?

Only if your either for us or agin us.

 

[Iriemon]

I think most who do join do support the mission so that the rest of you who think otherwise can be safe when you go to sleep at night, but then leaving might not be such a bad idea on your part.

Thanks. I know that folks like me leaving would help folks like you make America into your little Dickenesque imperlistic police state view of utopia, but my statement was tounge-in-cheek. I have no intention of leaving and making it any easier for folks like you ruin America any more than it already has been.

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

Don't think its' such a bad idea. I'll join anyways.

 

[Jerry]

I support mandatory service.
I don't think it will ever become law.

 

[zymurgy]

I support mandatory service.
I don't think it will ever become law.

Not a chance.

More then 1/2 the population has stopped voting or engaging in the political process at all. Trying to force them into mandatory service would be a nightmare.

 

[Jerry]

Not a chance.

More then 1/2 the population has stopped voting or engaging in the political process at all. Trying to force them into mandatory service would be a nightmare.

Well, assuming that such a law came to be, couldn't the gov. just scoop up recruits out of high school or collage? I mean, you can't do anything without your ss#, so it wouldn't be that herd to find people. Heck, they can even track you by your Eazy-Pass, if you have one.

There would need to be some heavy PR and another 9/11 before such a law would gain enough public support, however, once in place and in practice, I don't think that it would be any more difficult to ensure compliance than it is with taxes.

Besides, according to the bill, Military service is not the only option. One could be a Firefighter, a Paramedic, a Cop or similar.

 

[Paul]

When does this get voted on?

 

[zymurgy]

Well, assuming that such a law came to be, couldn't the gov. just scoop up recruits out of high school or collage? I mean, you can't do anything without your ss#, so it wouldn't be that herd to find people. Heck, they can even track you by your Eazy-Pass, if you have one.

So you rounded up a bunch of people that avoid engaging in the political process, likely because they hate the system so strongly, and plan to integrate them into a fighting force.

Rounding them up isn't the nightmare. Their performance once they have been rounded up is the nightmare.

 

[zymurgy]

When does this get voted on?

It already has.

It was just a democratic ploy to rally their base, just as the repubs did with gay marriage and flag burning.

The sickening thing is the person introducing this legislation voted against it.

 

[Sir_Alec]

Besides, according to the bill, Military service is not the only option. One could be a Firefighter, a Paramedic, a Cop or similar.

In most cases, during war this is not told to people while they are being drafted. Example: Vietnam, which was fought by people who were not even supported by their own government.

 

[MrFungus420]

Besides, according to the bill, Military service is not the only option. One could be a Firefighter, a Paramedic, a Cop or similar.

It doesn't matter what the service is that one is coerced into doing. Involuntary servitude is still involuntary servitude.

 

[wonder cow]

between the ages of 18 and 42

WTF?????

42? Jesus. At 42 it is a little to late to have to deal with drill sergeants and basic training bullshit.

At 18/19 I would have been intimidated enough to keep my mouth shut when Sergeant Carter got “all up in my grill”. But at 36, Sergeant Carter might have to kiss my ***.