Dobson says 'no way' to McCain candidacy

[Cold Dirt]

ELECTION 2008
Dobson says 'no way' to McCain candidacy
Christian leader declares he couldn't support senator 'under any circumstances'

Posted: January 13, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com



Dr. James Dobson, of Focus on the Family

A prominent Christian leader whose radio and magazine outreaches are solidly in support of biblically-based marriages – and keep in touch with millions of constituents daily – says he cannot consider Arizona Sen. John McCain a viable candidate for president.

"Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances," said James Dobson, founder of the Colorado Springs-based Focus on the Family as well as the Focus Action cultural action organization set up specifically to provide a platform for informing and rallying constituents.

Dobson, who always is careful to note that he's not speaking for the non-profit ministry, which cannot advocate for or against candidates legally, also doesn't hesitate to state his personal opinions on social or political issues and agendas.

Several times he's talked to Republicans, the traditionally conservative political party, about the need to maintain the values of that large part of the U.S. population, or lose the support of those people.

His most recent comments came during an interview on the Jerry Johnson Live program on KCBI 90.0 FM.

The show host noted that pro-family conservatives already are thinking about the next cycle of leadership in the United States, which will be determined in the 2008 presidential and congressional elections. He also noted that McCain and New York mayor Rudy Guiliani appear to be the leaders.

WorldNetDaily: Dobson says 'no way' to McCain candidacy

I believe people like Dobson is from the far far right and we dont really agree on anything when it come to religion and politics....but this is one thing we both agree on........

NO NO NO McCain on the republican ticket.........he has shown his true colors......

 

[1069]

WorldNetDaily: Dobson says 'no way' to McCain candidacy

I believe people like Dobson is from the far far right and we dont really agree on anything when it come to religion and politics....but this is one thing we both agree on........

NO NO NO McCain on the republican ticket.........he has shown his true colors......

I think Dobson is a little less influential than he used to be, because of his involvement in the Ted Haggard scandal, among other reasons.
I think a certain percentage of conservative Christians have become disillusioned with celebrity evangelists and mega-ministries, and are no longer taking their social, religious, or political cues from people like Dobson.
In any event, he's in his 70s. And he has no protege, no charismatic young second-in-command ready to step in and fill his spot, making it altogether possible that his spot will not be filled, at least not in the same way, after he vacates it.
Focus on the Family is a celebrity cult, built around Jim Dobson.
When there is no more Jim Dobson, I suspect it is entirely likely that there will no longer be a Focus on the Family ministry, either, or there will be one that is so vastly different as to be unrecognizable.
In the immortal words of Yeats, "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."

 

[Monkey Mind]

Surely the Republicans aren't taking their cues from people like Dobson. I seriously doubt this little fatwa will have any significant effect.

 

[Morrow]

People like Dobson are loud, but he still represents a minority. He may get press, but his word doesn't matter to the whole. A McCain run would just mean those people wouldn't vote.

And yes, he has shown his true colors, someone who doesn't forfeit his personal beliefs to cater a to a few votes. Regardless of politics I prefer politicians whose beliefs and ethics aren’t dependent on winning at any cost. You truly prefer someone who would lie to get into office to someone who has integrity?

 

[Navy Pride]

WorldNetDaily: Dobson says 'no way' to McCain candidacy

I believe people like Dobson is from the far far right and we dont really agree on anything when it come to religion and politics....but this is one thing we both agree on........

NO NO NO McCain on the republican ticket.........he has shown his true colors......

When you have to choose between a McCain and the "Ice Princess" Hillary or Hussein Obama both you and Dobson will change your mind..........

 

[Kandahar]

Fortunately, the religious right despises all four of the most likely GOP candidates (McCain, Romney, Giuliani, Gingrich). I love it. That means that we might actually have an election without a lot of self-righteous grandstanding on abortion and gay marriage, for once. There are few political groups in America that I despise more than the Christian Right.

Unless a dark-horse like Mike Huckabee wins the GOP nomination, Dobson and the other Christian Taliban are going to have to settle for the "lesser of two evils."

 

[Schweddy]

McCain - No way I will waste a vote on him. Someone give him a copy of the constitution, it appears he has misplaced his. I would rather vote for a toilet - it has more integrity.

Giuliani - Change positions on abortion and gay marriage then we *might* be able to work something out. The divorce thing is against him, but not a definitive no stricktly because of that.

Gingrich - I do not think he is running, but I think I could vote for him at this point. He got caught doing what every politician does. However, I love his bipartisan efforts these days.

Romney - Probably the most electable of the bunch. Govenors are popular when it comes to getting elected prez. To be honest, don't know much about him personally. I know two senators from that state are not my favs. If the same folks that elected them, elected him - it doesn't give me much hope.

 

[tryreading]

Surely the Republicans aren't taking their cues from people like Dobson. I seriously doubt this little fatwa will have any significant effect.

Unfortunately, the current administration thought Dobson's influence more important than most other considerations when trying to get Harriet Myers confirmed as a Supreme Court Justice last year. Dick Cheney went straight to Dobson, even before the American people were informed of President Bush's decision to nominate Myers, to enlist Dobson to persuade Republicans in Congress to back her. Dobson was to do this through a huge religious organization using a Texas judge or two (who knew Myers) as tools in the operation to vouch that Myers was pro-life.

To me this might ultimately have violated our Constitution if Myers had been confirmed. She would have been seated to a public trust in part by means of a religious test, which is illegal.

The point is that Dobson is dangerous, and the reason he's dangerous is the administration gave him power. He should be watched because this administration has made some bad decisions based on its religious beliefs.

 

[Navy Seal Patriot]

Surely the Republicans aren't taking their cues from people like Dobson. I seriously doubt this little fatwa will have any significant effect.

Pat Robertson comes to mind--evangelicals have millions of voters,this vast majority voted for Bush--the Judeo Christian right does have a great influence on the GOP.

 

[1069]

Yes they do, the millions of evangelicals swayed the vote for Bush--they do and have a say.

Every Monday of his presidency, Bush has participated in a west-wing conference call with evangelical leaders, which includes Dobson and which up until recently also included Haggard, in which the evangelical leaders advise Bush on public policy.
You can read about it here, in this Time Magazine article.

Time: 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America

 

[tryreading]

Every Monday of his presidency, Bush has participated in a west-wing conference call with evangelical leaders, which includes Dobson and which up until recently also included Haggard, in which the evangelical leaders advise Bush on public policy.
You can read about it here, in this Time Magazine article.

Time: 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America

There are some people who voted for President Bush based only on the fact that he is a Christian. Some of them say that's what God would want them to do. Kinda takes all the thought out of a very important decision.

I looked at the list of names on your link, and at least a couple of those people should be shunned by the President. Colson, who participated in the biggest debacle in our system that I know of. I know he did his time, but anonimity should follow that, not the honor of consulting for the President. And Santorum, who said if terrorists use nuclear devices on any of our cities, we should bomb Mecca. If terrorists attack our cities, I want to do the same to some cities in places that supported those terrorists. Not obliterate a religious site that is sacred to hundreds of millions of people, 99.999% of whom are not terrorists and have nothing to do with terrorism.

 

[Monkey Mind]

McCain - No way I will waste a vote on him. Someone give him a copy of the constitution, it appears he has misplaced his. I would rather vote for a toilet - it has more integrity.

That is a very strong opinion. Please explain why you feel that way.

Giuliani - Change positions on abortion and gay marriage then we *might* be able to work something out. The divorce thing is against him, but not a definitive no stricktly because of that.

I like Giuliani. His position on gay marriage is a plus, and his position on abortion is moderate. Voting based on whether or not someone had a divorce seems crazy. Basically none of the three things you mentioned here are what I consider relevant to electing a president. If Giuliani runs I would have to look at his views on an issue-by-issue basis. Which of course, is what I always do.

Gingrich - I do not think he is running, but I think I could vote for him at this point. He got caught doing what every politician does. However, I love his bipartisan efforts these days.

I've seen Gingrich say a lot of very intelligent things, and I admire his support for science. I doubt he has any chance of winning though, and based on his past actions in office I would not vote for him. If he runs, the Republicans don't have a chance.. which could be good or bad for the country I guess, depending on who the other candidates are.

Romney - Probably the most electable of the bunch. Govenors are popular when it comes to getting elected prez. To be honest, don't know much about him personally. I know two senators from that state are not my favs. If the same folks that elected them, elected him - it doesn't give me much hope.

I don't know anything about this guy either. He seems to be the Obama of the Republican side, except with more executive experience.

 

[26 X World Champs]

When you have to choose between a McCain and the "Ice Princess" Hillary or Hussein Obama both you and Dobson will change your mind..........

Yet another bigotry inspired post by DP's resident you know what....

It's so interesting that Navy Pride feels he must racially attack someone and the Democrats at the same time.

This thread has nothing to do with the Dems yet Navy Pride had to insert his bigotry as his contribution, which is pretty damn typical.

 

[disneydude]

^
Eh......its just his right-wing radio talking points speaking....he's harmless without them.


But on topic:


The battle for the heart and soul of the Republican party has begun. This is definitely going to be an interesting campaign.

Will the neo-cons and the radical right-wing keep control of the Republican party.....or will true Conservatives regain control of their party......the line has been drawn.

 

[Navy Pride]

Yet another bigotry inspired post by DP's resident you know what....

It's so interesting that Navy Pride feels he must racially attack someone and the Democrats at the same time.

This thread has nothing to do with the Democrats yet Navy Pride had to insert his bigotry as his contribution, which is pretty damn typical.

Is that not his name?

It has a lot to do with the dems when it comes to who to vote for in 2008......

 

[SpooK]

When you have to choose between a McCain and the "Ice Princess" Hillary or Hussein Obama both you and Dobson will change your mind..........

No doubt about it.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Yet another bigotry inspired post by DP's resident you know what....

It's so interesting that Navy Pride feels he must racially attack someone and the Democrats at the same time.

This thread has nothing to do with the Democrats yet Navy Pride had to insert his bigotry as his contribution, which is pretty damn typical.

:rofl Keep it up, Navy. I love how you ruffle his feathers.

 

[Kandahar]

Is that not his name?

No. His name is Barack Obama. Hussein is his middle name. So unless you routinely mention Walker Bush, Jefferson Clinton, and Forbes Kerry, why would you refer to him as Hussein Obama if not to make an association with Saddam Hussein?

 

[26 X World Champs]

No. His name is Barack Obama. Hussein is his middle name. So unless you routinely mention Walker Bush, Jefferson Clinton, and Forbes Kerry, why would you refer to him as Hussein Obama if not to make an association with Saddam Hussein?

Could it be because he's a bigot?

You know I started a thread this morning that's based upon, somewhat, the bigotry that Navy Pride projects every time he writes "Hussein Obama."

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/16969-if-obama-runs-president.html

It is not too far fetched to see people with views like Navy Pride conspire to assassinate Senator Obama. Maybe because he's black or maybe because people like Navy Pride will constantly remind the fringe, violent elements of the radical right wing that his middle name is Hussein?

How stupid is someone who has to stoop so low that they have to use someone's middle name as a debating point? How low is that?

It's hate rhetoric like writing "Hussein Obama" that makes people like Navy Pride so scary in the real world, not only in the Debate Politics world.

 

[1069]

It is not too far fetched to see people with views like Navy Pride conspire to assassinate Senator Obama. Maybe because he's black or maybe because people like Navy Pride will constantly remind the fringe, violent elements of the radical right wing that his middle name is Hussein?.... It's hate rhetoric like writing "Hussein Obama" that makes people like Navy Pride so scary in the real world, not only in the Debate Politics world.

Oh, surely not...

What a discouraging thought.

 

[26 X World Champs]

Oh, surely not...

What a discouraging thought.

I agree it would be as devastating an occurrence as any in modern US history. It's just that Obama is so popular and articulate that I think it must really make the somewhat sizable racist minority in this country very angry. Anger can potentially lead to seismic events like an assassination.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

I think Champs writes more posts about Navy Pride than any other subject. Navy must really be able to strike a nerve.

 

[RightinNYC]

It is not too far fetched to see people with views like Navy Pride conspire to assassinate Senator Obama. Maybe because he's black or maybe because people like Navy Pride will constantly remind the fringe, violent elements of the radical right wing that his middle name is Hussein?

It's hate rhetoric like writing "Hussein Obama" that makes people like Navy Pride so scary in the real world, not only in the Debate Politics world.

......riiiiight.:shock:

 

[RightinNYC]

I'll be sure to file Dobson's opinions away, marked under "Things that I couldn't care less about."

 

[Navy Pride]

No. His name is Barack Obama. Hussein is his middle name. So unless you routinely mention Walker Bush, Jefferson Clinton, and Forbes Kerry, why would you refer to him as Hussein Obama if not to make an association with Saddam Hussein?

Well I don't think people with names like Jefferson or Walker are involved in genicide or terrorism wheras people with the name of Hussein that is a different matter.........

I personally believe there are a lot of voters out there who would be very intered in knowing this guys middle name is Hussein and what his background is...........